Herald Says "best fans in the world" a myth * Mod Note #53 *

niallo27

osarusan wrote: »

Not that I really want to get into this debate, but if you're 10 minutes from Shannon airport, you're only 30 minutes from Limerick FC games in Jackman park.

I know i said that in my last post, i have been travelling to liverpool for about 15 years now, what you want me to do, just stop going and start supporting limerick.

Xavi6

stovelid - closed account

:eek:

invinciblePRSTV

Xavi6 wrote: »

stovelid - closed account

:eek:

NOOOO! Why is it always the good ones!

I think I'll miss the most his continous re-telling of his favourite story - how he likes to laugh at/insult Irish people with his English family every chance he gets. What a stand up guy!

Up there with SectionF as one of the SFs most notorious, bitter LoI-ers.

osarusan

niallo27 wrote: »

I know i said that in my last post, i have been travelling to liverpool for about 15 years now, what you want me to do, just stop going and start supporting limerick.

I don't want you to do anything, but I wonder why you're portraying your LOI options as Cork or Dublin when Limerick is so much closer.

niallo27

osarusan wrote: »

I don't want you to do anything, but I wonder why you're portraying your LOI options as Cork or Dublin when Limerick is so much closer.

True I suppose, limerick were very badly run back when I was growing up, they had no support. District football was better supported.

Xavi6

invinciblePRSTV wrote: »

NOOOO! Why is it always the good ones!

I think I'll miss the most his continous re-telling of his favourite story - how he likes to laugh at/insult Irish people with his English family every chance he gets. What a stand up guy!

Up there with SectionF as one of the SFs most notorious, bitter LoI-ers.

The account's still warm man!!!!

invinciblePRSTV

Xavi6 wrote: »

The account's still warm man!!!!

Less of your insolence you sub-human, barstooling quasi-Englishman, you shame the memory of the men of '16. Think about that next time as you cheer on your ENGLISH QUEEN-LOVING football team.

Ashbourne hoop

Kirby wrote: »

The olympics is a big draw as it's one of the few sporting events that non-sporting people will sit and watch. I would wager a few more thousand would have shown up had it not been scheduled when it was.
I'd wager a few more thousand would have shown up if it was utd, Liverpool, Celtic etc

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I'm a life long United fan. My father was too and so was his and so forth. I have no intentions of letting others tell me who I should or should not support; I can make my own mind up on that.

Really, you can make up your own mind ? You sure about that ?

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

And again I say, if you feel that way, fair play to you. But I don't. I've tried watching a few LOI games over the last year, and only one managed to hold my interest for 90 minutes.

Some of Utd's games last season were incredibly boring.

alproctor wrote: »

This is completely wrong.

Like the original poster, I am a lifelong United supporter, having supported the club from 1981. I have family connections to Manchester, my uncle lived in Sale till he died in 2002, and was a season ticket holder in Old Trafford up until that time. I have jerseys, programmes, badges, tshirts, scarves, pictures, etc. etc. from the 70's to today. Dozens of my relations still live in the area, Denton, Stockport, Salford, Bolton, Oldham, Warrington....

It's funny people follow the relatives who support Utd because they are from the area but they never follow Altrincham, Bolton, Oldham etc.

born2bwild

Xavi6 wrote: »

stovelid - closed account

:eek:

Jumped or pushed? Jumped by the sound of it. Throwing in the towel is pretty much the done thing in Tallaght these days.

CSF

niallo27 wrote: »

osarusan wrote: »

Not that I really want to get into this debate, but if you're 10 minutes from Shannon airport, you're only 30 minutes from Limerick FC games in Jackman park.

I know i said that in my last post, i have been travelling to liverpool for about 15 years now, what you want me to do, just stop going and start supporting limerick.

Do both?

Stick on the Katie Taylor fight to hear more from the best fans in the world. :pac:

CSF

Deleted User wrote: »

Stick on the Katie Taylor fight to hear more from the best fans in the world. :pac:

Ah jesus, don't ruin a great day for Irish sport with that ****e.

Meh, the same event junkies tbh. I'm generally on the other side of the debate but the "ole ole" cheer during the fight before was pretty sad and the boos for Taylor's opponent before the fight were ****ing pathetic.

CSF

Deleted User wrote: »

Meh, the same event junkies tbh. I'm generally on the other side of the debate but the "ole ole" cheer during the fight before was pretty sad and the boos for Taylor's opponent before the fight were ****ing pathetic.

Would you ever go away with that ****e. Boxing barstoolers now? Come on FFS.

CSF

CSF wrote: »

Would you ever go away with that ****e. Boxing barstoolers now? Come on FFS.

I have no problem with boxing or MMA barstoolers, we're all that when it's on telly. When they all congregate and be arseholes it's worth commenting on.

dfx-

born2bwild wrote: »

Jumped or pushed? Jumped by the sound of it. Throwing in the towel is pretty much the done thing in Tallaght these days.

Prayforstovelid

gosplan

Deleted User wrote: »

Meh, the same event junkies tbh. I'm generally on the other side of the debate but the "ole ole" cheer during the fight before was pretty sad and the boos for Taylor's opponent before the fight were ****ing pathetic.

Don't watch too much boxing then do you??


Out of curiosity, do you think that people should only attend olympic sports that they follow religiously week in week out?

Don't you think the women boxers from any country would be a bit dissappointed if they turned up for the olympics and had a mostly empty arena?

Father Damo

Im just awaiting the upcoming thread from some gobsh1te comparing the crowds for her Olympic fight compared to the 30 people who turn up to see her in an Irish ladies football qualifier.:rolleyes:

Either that or her profile will raise the status of Irish ladies football, and someone will be complaining more people turned out for a ladies international friendly than turned up at Tolka last week.

One or the other

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

Don't watch too much boxing then do you??


Out of curiosity, do you think that people should only attend olympic sports that they follow religiously week in week out?

Don't you think the women boxers from any country would be a bit dissappointed if they turned up for the olympics and had a mostly empty arena?

I watch a fair amount of boxing and obviously the pro stuff is pure pantomime with all the crap around the fight. The boxing is always going to sell out either way, I just thought watching the match and the one before was pretty funny with this thread in mind.

I've no problem with people only watching something in the olympics, there's half a dozen sports I only really watch when it's the olympics or world championships. Like I said, the crowd at the match just reminded me massively of this thread.

Richard Hillman

Couldnt believe all those barstoolers watching the 200 metres last night. It doesnt compare to going to Morton Stadium to see the local clubs battle against each other. Proper athletics, none of that over hyped Bolt and Blake stuff that is fed to us by the axis of evil; the BBC, Sky and RTE. These people just cant understand athletics culture.

bohsman

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Couldnt believe all those barstoolers watching the 200 metres last night. It doesnt compare to going to Morton Stadium to see the local clubs battle against each other. Proper athletics, none of that over hyped Bolt and Blake stuff that is fed to us by the axis of evil; the BBC, Sky and RTE. These people just cant understand athletics culture.

Dont think any of them claim to be be the best athletics fans in the world though.

Silentcorner

bohsman wrote: »

Dont think any of them claim to be be the best athletics fans in the world though.

To be fair I don't think they claimed anything, they were labelled by others is my understanding...

The whole LOI "irelands true football fans" is a bit of a mystery to me...I've been participating in schoolboy since I was 6 years of age, and all the coaches that coached me, spent time collecting me, washing my gear, organising club fundraisers etc, and over many many years there were many many of those people, I can say that none of these people attend LOI matches at all as far as I can see, but yet surely they can legitimately claim to be "irelands true football supporters"

Surely the 1,000s and 1,000s of Junior league players and supporters can also claim to "irelands true football supporters" too no...by the way the numbers playing and supporting junior football WAY WAY outnumbers the people supporting LOI...

I once argued that typically the LOI die hards seldom played the game ( there are exceptions of course ), therefore had no affiliation to any schoolboy/junior clubs, therefore had no local team to support, therefore latching onto their LOI side, nothing wrong with that, but as I have already pointed out the vast majority of players and supporters in this country DO NOT go to LOI games...but they surely can also be considered "irelands true football supporters"

batistuta9

CSF wrote: »

Do both?

how can a real fan support two teams?

bohsman

Silentcorner wrote: »

To be fair I don't think they claimed anything, they were labelled by others is my understanding...

The whole LOI "irelands true football fans" is a bit of a mystery to me...I've been participating in schoolboy since I was 6 years of age, and all the coaches that coached me, spent time collecting me, washing my gear, organising club fundraisers etc, and over many many years there were many many of those people, I can say that none of these people attend LOI matches at all as far as I can see, but yet surely they can legitimately claim to be "irelands true football supporters"

Surely the 1,000s and 1,000s of Junior league players and supporters can also claim to "irelands true football supporters" too no...by the way the numbers playing and supporting junior football WAY WAY outnumbers the people supporting LOI...

I once argued that typically the LOI die hards seldom played the game ( there are exceptions of course ), therefore had no affiliation to any schoolboy/junior clubs, therefore had no local team to support, therefore latching onto their LOI side, nothing wrong with that, but as I have already pointed out the vast majority of players and supporters in this country DO NOT go to LOI games...but they surely can also be considered "irelands true football supporters"

Anyone involved in Irish football, schoolboy football upwards is included when people talk about supporting Irish football.

batistuta9 wrote: »

how can a real fan support two teams?

No, but they can watch more than one team. I don't support anyone in the premiership but I watch more games a season than most. Suppose it's the difference between solely supporting a team and actually being a fan of football.

CSF

batistuta9 wrote: »

CSF wrote: »

Do both?

how can a real fan support two teams?

Oh Christ, when barstoolers start doleing out the real fan line, its hard to do anything other than just facepalm and laugh.

batistuta9

CSF wrote: »

Oh Christ, when barstoolers start doleing out the real fan line, its hard to do anything other than just facepalm and laugh.

how do you know if i'm a barstooler or not?

but can you not answer the question

& i'm not doling it out i'm looking to see what the 'real loi fans' think on this

batistuta9

bohsman wrote: »

No, but they can watch more than one team. I don't support anyone in the premiership but I watch more games a season than most. Suppose it's the difference between solely supporting a team and actually being a fan of football.

at least you can give an answer on it, your opinion.

so then would you consider every bohs supporter who supports an english club too - not a real fan, regardless of how many matches they attend, support the team etc.?

would you go to watch many non loi clubs in north dublin or would it be just bohs?

if not would that make you or anyone who only attends the loi an event junkie too?

bohsman

batistuta9 wrote: »

at least you can give an answer on it, your opinion.

so then would you consider every bohs supporter who supports an english club too - not a real fan, regardless of how many matches they attend, support the team etc.?

would you go to watch many non loi clubs in north dublin or would it be just bohs?

if not would that make you or anyone who only attends the loi an event junkie too?

People can have a soft spot for more than one team, not quite fanaticism as implied by the term "fan" but of course people can support more than one team. I doubt there's more than a handful of LOI fans who don't have an English team as well, not sure where you are getting the idea that they don't?

All that LOI fans really want is that Irish people pay attention to their own league as well as supporting their EPL teams instead of slating the league without having seen a game. Works perfectly well in places like Scandinavia and Portugal, both have populations that massively support the Premiership or La Liga but still manage to support their own.

Lucan Bohs

batistuta9 wrote: »

bohsman wrote: »

No, but they can watch more than one team. I don't support anyone in the premiership but I watch more games a season than most. Suppose it's the difference between solely supporting a team and actually being a fan of football.

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so then would you consider every bohs supporter who supports an english club too - not a real fan, regardless of how many matches they attend, support the team etc.?

every single Bohs fan I know and I can guarantee you 99% of loi fans support an English team aswell. This is the idea the loi fans on this forum are trying to get accross: that you can support or attend games of more than 1 team

it's commonplace in England, only yesterday I was talking to an English fella who supported West Ham (premier league) and Billericay Town (Isthmian premier)

CSF

batistuta9 wrote: »

how do you know if i'm a barstooler or not?

but can you not answer the question

& i'm not doling it out i'm looking to see what the 'real loi fans' think on this

I think one can like as many teams as they want, and I don't think one should be discouraged or insulted for their feelings for any club. But the club they're a real fan of is their local club, be that their local LOI club, local junior club or whatever.

But as a coach, I can't help but piss myself at the idea that being a coach makes one a real fan. How? It just makes a you a real coach.