Gay Marriage/Marriage Equality/End of World?

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ButtimersLaw wrote: »

Isn't that two issues?

Our chief weapon is surpise. Surprise and ruthless efficiency...

Mickeroo

Stick with this until the end....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JsRx2lois

MrPudding

Mickeroo wrote: »

Stick with this until the end....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JsRx2lois

I like that. Very good.

MrP

Sin City

Mickeroo wrote: »

Stick with this until the end....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JsRx2lois

I watched the whole show and everyone else who spoke were so homophobic, it really sickened me.

Dades

That was a good setup alright. Kudos.

Mickeroo

Sin City wrote: »

I watched the whole show and everyone else who spoke were so homophobic, it really sickened me.

That would explain the fairly muted applause at the end.

efb

66% support marriage equality for gay people- Behaviour & Attitudes Poll Sunday Times 21/10/12

ButtimersLaw

efb wrote: »

66% support marriage equality for gay people- Behaviour & Attitudes Poll Sunday Times 21/10/12

I know this is off topic, but why am I always surprised when someone volunteers the information that they not only buy newspapers from the disgraced Murdock empire, but then they quote them as if they are a reliable source of information?

Based on their recent history, how can anyone believe a word they read in any newspaper from the disgusting Murdock empire? And how can anyone support them financially by buying their disgraced output?

efb

I find The Sunday Times a very good paper. Which one would you reccommend? The Observer?

Sulla Felix

Not his biggest fan but this was pretty powerful when I first saw it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIIcaDDyd_I

wp_rathead

Gilmore backs gay marriage

muppeteer

A very interesting info-graphic exposing 25 fallacies used by the chief Catholic in the UK Cardinal O' Brien in just one article he wrote against same-sex marriage. One fallacy for every 26 words:)

The image is too big to link to directly.
http://infobeautiful2.s3.amazonaws.com/RhetoricalFallacy_SameSexMarriage.png

robindch

Ukraine, which is completely different to Russia, takes a brave stand against gay propaganda and the gheys in general. As with Uganda and many other countries, note again the involvement of homophobic US-linked christian organizations.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19881905

BBC wrote:

The Ukrainian parliament could give final approval next week to a bill that aims to outlaw "pro-homosexual propaganda" - any "positive depiction" of gay people, gay pride marches, or even the screening of a film like Brokeback Mountain.

Critics have described the legislation, which imposes indeterminate fines and up to five years in prison for repeat offenders, as a throwback to the Middle Ages, although it is only a couple of decades since homosexuality was a criminal offence here and in the rest of the USSR. In some ways, Ukraine is an open and tolerant society. It was the first former Soviet republic to decriminalise homosexuality, in 1991. It has sprouted its own gay rights movement, and gay night clubs operate freely in central Kiev.

But despite this, the bill - which sailed through its first reading last week - enjoys wide backing. All major political parties are united in support, and polls indicate that many Ukrainians support some restrictions on the rights of sexual minorities. One of the legislation's incubators is the Christian Hope evangelical church in Kiev. Located in a nondescript five-story structure outside the city centre, Christian Hope provides a wide array of educational and charity services, and has established a network of some 150 churches throughout Ukraine. It has also helped collect thousands of signatures in support of three anti-gay bills put forward in parliament this year.

After a rousing service in the church's warehouse-like auditorium focusing on the agonies of sin and bliss of salvation, I meet the chief pastor, Valery Reshetinsky. For him, the fight against homosexuality is a matter of "national security" upon which the survival of the nation depends. "Here's the issue," says Pastor Reshetinsky, a large-boned man with a slight moustache, tells me. "In a real democracy, my freedom and rights are limited by the freedom of someone else." In his opinion, freedom of speech for sexual minorities is a violation of what he considers his inalienable right not to have to hear something he finds offensive.

"You can't do everything that you want to do, because there are people who have the exact same rights as you do," he insists. The pastor goes on to accuse a worldwide conspiracy of Masons, New-Agers, postmodernists and financiers of various nationalities, of imposing ideas that are not "characteristic for Ukraine" on the nation's children.

The first reading of the bill last week unleashed a deluge of condemnation from human rights organisations, both inside and outside Ukraine, who have christened it a "gay gag law". The ban would be a gross violation of European and international conventions, they say, leading to further marginalisation of Ukraine's LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) community.

It could also damage efforts to stem Ukraine's already stratospheric HIV rate, if, for example, some anti-Aids information were to be prohibited. It may be no coincidence that a number of gay activists have been attacked in recent months. The first ever Gay Pride march planned in Kiev was called off at the last minute in May after threats of violence from far-right groups.

Immediately after a news conference announcing the decision, masked assailants kicked and jumped on Svyatoslav Sheremet, head of Gay Forum of Ukraine. A month later, unknown muggers shouting "******!" assaulted another of the parade organisers, Taras Karasiychuk, on the street as he was coming home at night. International luminaries have weighed in. At a recent concert to mark the end of the Euro 2012 football championship - co-hosted by Ukraine - Elton John used his stage to denounce the attacks and the pending legislation. "I plead with you: Stop the violence against gay people," Sir Elton told a cheering crowd of some 100,000 on Kiev's central square.

Supporters of the bill, like Ruslan Kukharchuk, a founder of the local group Love Against Homosexuality, deny the accusation of intolerance. They say they too condemn the violence against homosexuals. What is more, they add, gays are free to do whatever they want "in the privacy of their room".

Kukharchuk, however, has also written about what he calls the "homo-dictatorship" which he claims dominates Western society and persecutes religious, anti-gay proponents like himself. He strives to counter "aggressive" gay propaganda, he says - in other words, public discourse that implies that homosexuality "is normal, is good, is part of democracy". If passed, the bill would prevent anyone sending out a message that there is nothing wrong with being gay - whether in a newspaper editorial, a public speech or parade. This bill's authors have cited films like Brokeback Mountain as an example.

Another film, Bruno, featuring Sacha Baron Cohen in the role of a gay Austrian fashion designer, was censored in Ukraine anyway. And a few weeks ago, the National Expert Commission for Protecting Public Morality said it would examine complaints from a Christian group about SpongeBob SquarePants and some Disney films. The new bill could even be so interpreted as to outlaw any public display of single-sex affection, such as kissing and hand-holding, Kukharchuk says. "But it would be up to a court of law to decide if this was propaganda or not."

Despite the formidable pushback - and the threat of physical assault - LGBT activists are undaunted. Karasiychuk, who suffered a broken jaw and concussion in his attack, says gay people cannot retreat into the woodwork. "We need to be more visible in everyday life. We have to provoke this conversation. Everyone has to ask themselves, why they don't like gays."

old hippy

With unbalanced people all over the globe, trying to hurt/kill/convert/stamp out homosexuality -it's hardly surprising there might be "aggressive" gay propaganda :mad:

Bannasidhe

old hippy wrote: »

With unbalanced people all over the globe, trying to hurt/kill/convert/stamp out homosexuality -it's hardly surprising there might be "aggressive" gay propaganda :mad:

So much for 'Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin'.

old hippy

Bannasidhe wrote: »

So much for 'Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin'.

It's aggressive religious propaganda, that's what it is. I want a t-shirt saying "Love the sinner, love the sin - ain't none of you muthas gonna do me in".

IT-Guy

robindch wrote: »

Ukraine, which is completely different to Russia, takes a brave stand against gay propaganda and the gheys in general. As with Uganda and many other countries, note again the involvement of homophobic US-linked christian organizations.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19881905

Supporters of the bill, like Ruslan Kukharchuk, a founder of the local group Love Against Homosexuality, deny the accusation of intolerance. They say they too condemn the violence against homosexuals. What is more, they add, gays are free to do whatever they want "in the privacy of their room".

It's the bolded statement that stood out for me, seeking to appear reasonable and tolerant though the next paragraphs show the underlying homophobia. Any public display of homosexual affection could be construed as "gay propaganda". Staggeringly backward thinking. Hope the bill doesn't pass!

IT-Guy

muppeteer wrote: »

A very interesting info-graphic exposing 25 fallacies used by the chief Catholic in the UK Cardinal O' Brien in just one article he wrote against same-sex marriage. One fallacy for every 26 words:)

The image is too big to link to directly.
http://infobeautiful2.s3.amazonaws.com/RhetoricalFallacy_SameSexMarriage.png

That was awesome! Love seeing a fallacious argument from a nasty bigoted POV get taken apart like that. Also expanded my knowledge of logical fallacies and gave me a whole new category of them to explore - rhetological! :pac:

robindch

Maryland pastor says gay people and supporters of same-sex marriage are 'worthy of death'. His colleagues seem happy with the idea.

He keeps on talking about opening up "back doors", so I wonder if he has an unfulfilled anal fetish?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pastor-gays-supporters-worthy-death-article-1.1191862

NY Daily News wrote:

A Maryland pastor who suggested supporters of same-sex marriage deserve to die refuses to back down from his vehemently anti-gay statements. Rev. Robert Anderson, of Colonial Baptist Church in Randallstown, Md., made the remark at a town hall meeting last week about the upcoming vote on Question 6, the referendum challenging the state’s legalization of same-sex marriage.

“Those who practice such things are worthy of death,” Anderson said. “If we don’t vote against it, then we are approving these things that are worthy of death.” Anderson says he was simply quoting scripture.

“That’s not my words,” he told NBC Washington. “That’s from Romans Chapter 1 written by the Apostle Paul himself.” He explained that same-sex marriage supporters — not just gay people — are worthy of death because “they are promoting the lifestyle and they are promoting what same-sex marriage is all about, and that is what we are standing against.” The remark riled up locals and the campaign group Marylanders for Marriage Equality.

“Such rancid comments have no place in this debate,” the group said, calling for an apology. The Maryland Marriage Alliance, which hosted the meeting, downplayed Anderson’s comments and insisted they’re not a call for violence.
“Any attempt to imply that Dr. Anderson’s reading of scripture was a call to harm gays and lesbians is false and serves as a distraction from the real issues of the campaign,” the group’s executive director, Derek McCoy, said in a statement to the Daily News.

Marylanders can vote for or against the state’s same-sex marriage law by answering Question 6 on the ballot Nov. 6.

Bannasidhe

robindch wrote: »

Maryland pastor says gay people and supporters of same-sex marriage are 'worthy of death'. His colleagues seem happy with the idea.

He keeps on talking about opening up "back doors", so I wonder if he has an unfulfilled anal fetish?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pastor-gays-supporters-worthy-death-article-1.1191862

Have we have discovered the identity of our departed Thespian poster with the sodomy obsession?

Sin City

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Have we have discovered the identity of our departed Thespian poster with the sodomy obsession?

I thought he was back already.

Anyway, how can people hate the thought of lesbians fornicating,It just boggles the mind

Bannasidhe

Sin City wrote: »

I thought he was back already.

Anyway, how can people hate the thought of lesbians fornicating,It just boggles the mind

It's the 'we don't care what you read/saw in a porno mag/film* matey - we are not engaging in foreplay while we wait for you and your willie to join in and satisfy us so feck off!' I imagine.

*Typical Dyke reactions to 'girl- on-girl' porno include:

' girl me arse - she's 40 if she's a day'

'what the hell is the doing with her tongue??? Why are the doing that weird sticking their tongues out and flicking the ends of them off each other thing????'

'Arrgggghhhh - look at the length of her nails???'

'Who the hell wears high heels in bed - do they not know what that will do to the sheets????'

'Is that a man???' What is he doing??? Pass me the DVD box there I think we have the wrong film!'

Sin City

Bannasidhe wrote: »

It's the 'we don't care what you read/saw in a porno mag/film* matey - we are not engaging in foreplay while we wait for you and your willie to join in and satisfy us so feck off!' I imagine.

*Typical Dyke reactions to 'girl- on-girl' porno include:

' girl me arse - she's 40 if she's a day'

'what the hell is the doing with her tongue??? Why are the doing that weird sticking their tongues out and flicking the ends of them off each other thing????'

'Arrgggghhhh - look at the length of her nails???'

'Who the hell wears high heels in bed - do they not know what that will do to the sheets????'

'Is that a man???' What is he doing??? Pass me the DVD box there I think we have the wrong film!'

:(:(:(

Bannasidhe

Sin City wrote: »

:(:(:(

Sometimes the truth hurts.

Sin City

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Sometimes the truth hurts.

:(:(:(:(



So yeah, those homosexuals should all be eliminated,, especailly those teasing lesbians who dont want you to join in off the telly

Down with this sort of thing I say

Let them all burn in hell

Sulla Felix

Sin City wrote: »

:(:(:(:(



So yeah, those homosexuals should all be eliminated,, especailly those teasing lesbians who dont want you to join in off the telly

Down with this sort of thing I say

Let them all burn in hell

Just to be absolutely clear, I'm thanking this because Iget the joke...

robindch

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Sometimes the truth hurts.

Not half as much as long nails.

Bannasidhe

robindch wrote: »

Not half as much as long nails.

Ain't that the truth!








*flashbacks to Jennifer Tilly's nails in Bound...shudder...*

Nodin

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Ain't that the truth!

*flashbacks to Jennifer Tilly's nails in Bound...shudder...*

Which reminds me....
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lana-wachowski-reveals-suicide-plan-382169

robindch

Overweight religious preacher says the gheys and anti-Zionism caused Hurricane Sandy:

http://defendproclaimthefaith.org/blog/

Some Fat Guy wrote:

God is systematically destroying America. Just look at what has happened this year.

There was an incredible heatwave and drought that destroyed massive amounts of the crops. This drought has not let up and now covers about 65 percent of the country. The drought triggered record forest fires in the West.

The East was not affected by the drought, but now the most powerful hurricane on record is heading directly towards Philadelphia and New York City. It could do catastrophic damage to the entire Northeast! If you add the area of the drought and now the hurricane together, it would be about 80 percent of the country! As I said, the Holy God of Israel is systematically destroying America right before our eyes.

Just last August, Hurricane Isaac hit New Orleans seven years later, on the exact day of Hurricane Katrina. Both hit during the week of the homosexual event called Southern Decadence in New Orleans! Hurricane Sandy is hitting 21 years to the day of the Perfect Storm of October 20, 1991. I write about this in my book as America Has Done to Israel. This was the day that President George Bush Sr. initiated the Madrid Peace Process to divide the land of Israel, including Jerusalem. America has been under God’s judgment since this event. Both of these hurricanes were cause by freakish weather patterns that came together to create

Twenty-one years breaks down to 7 x 3, which is a significant number with God. Three is perfection as the Godhead is three in one while seven is perfection. It appears that God gave America 21 years to repent of interfering with His prophetic plan for Israel; however, it has gotten worse under all the presidents and especially Obama. Obama is 100 percent behind the Muslim Brotherhood which has vowed to destroy Israel and take Jerusalem. Both candidates are pro-homosexual and are behind the homosexual agenda. America is under political judgment and the church does not know it!

With all of this, there is almost zero repentance by the church: zero! The fear of God has disappeared from His people. The church in America is now EXACTLY like ancient Israel before the Babylonians destroyed them. Both ancient Israel and the modern American church completely lost the fear of God.

On blog talk radio, a handful of us have been crying out to the Lord in repentance and mercy on the land along with an outpouring of the Holy Spirit on us.