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Amiko Alien 2 Triple Tuner Combobox

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Fresh Pots


    Just got the dual streaming function going last night on the Hyp image - only problem is when I had one channel running on the TV and another running on the laptop - the two channels somehow locked and I couldn't access any other channel and a record button started flashing on the info bar. When I turned off the channel i was streaming all returned to normal again. Seems a bit wierd. Tried this straight after I uploaded the image.

    Any ideas ? Thanks.

    Not weird, both tuners were in use so all other channels would be greyed out. The recording light must be a glitch alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    TheTechGuy wrote: »
    Not weird, both tuners were in use so all other channels would be greyed out. The recording light must be a glitch alright.

    You should be able to use the third terrestrial tuner (if it's setup)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Irreverent


    Hi lads. Does the same rte player plugin that worked on HDMU work with the Hyperion image? I must say it's working flawlessy now since updating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Realalemadrid


    TheTechGuy wrote: »
    Not weird, both tuners were in use so all other channels would be greyed out. The recording light must be a glitch alright.

    Thanks for the reply - I suppose I didn't explain myself very well. When I started streaming on the laptop I could only watch the channel on the tv that I was tuned into when I started streaming.

    For example - I start watching channel 4 on the TV - this is coming from tuner B, I then switch on the laptop and start watching bbc3 on that - presume this is coming from tuner C. While the laptop is running bbc3 - I cannot change channel on the TV using Tuner B. I just get a black screen. Presumably I should be able to swtich channels using tuner B on the TV while the laptop gets its feed from tuner C? Thanks again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Thanks for the reply - I suppose I didn't explain myself very well. When I started streaming on the laptop I could only watch the channel on the tv that I was tuned into when I started streaming.

    For example - I start watching channel 4 on the TV - this is coming from tuner B, I then switch on the laptop and start watching bbc3 on that - presume this is coming from tuner C. While the laptop is running bbc3 - I cannot change channel on the TV using Tuner B. I just get a black screen. Presumably I should be able to swtich channels using tuner B on the TV while the laptop gets its feed from tuner C? Thanks again.

    Sounds like you only have one working tuner. Check your tuner configuration, tuner c must be set at equal to tuner b. You can also easily check both tuners in sat finder, make sure they both have SNR reading


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Dublin Deluge


    championc wrote: »
    What I'd like to do with this is have Saorview, FreeToAir BBC etc from one satellite dish and German FTA channells from another dish (19,2)

    is this possible or are the 2 receivers only used for recording while watching a different channel ? (this is all i have ever read that people do!)
    Correct - Receive channels from BOTH satellites and Terrestrial simultaneously - you might need a multiswitch or something (someone else will know)

    I actually have a setup similar to this. I can receive 13E, 19.2E and 28.8E. But you don't really need the two tuners to watch the two satellites, you could do it with a one-tuner box, you just need a DISEQ (the switch that Champion mentioned) so that the box can automatically switch between the two satellites. In my setup I can receive three satellites, but I only have two tuners. The box automatically switches between the satellites. The two tuners allow you to watch one satellite channel and record another satellite channel (Whether or not the two channels are in the same satellite or not is immaterial).

    Basically what you will need is a dish with two LNBs on it, one for 19.2 and one for 28.8 (or alternatively two dishes each pointing to different positions, but I believe the multi-LNB solution is better and perhaps cheaper). The LNB is the device that sits on the arm of the dish, the part that actually receives the satellite signals. (I of course have a dish with three LNBs, one per satellite position). Because you'll have more than one LNB, you'll need a bigger dish than normal (the size of the dish also depends on where you live in the country), so you won't be able to use the usual "oval" sky dish you see almost everywhere, but a standard one (the kind you see in most European countries). Since I have three LNBs and I live in Dublin, my dish is 85cm. Your satellite installer will be able to advise you on the size of the dish you require, the DISEQ thingy, etc.

    The DISEQ is a little piece of equipment that is installed near the dish itself that automatically switches between LNBs or something to that effect. I actually don't really know exactly how it works since everything is done by the box automatically. For you it's transparent. When you configure enigma, you configure tuner by tuner. My tuner B is set to DISEQ A/B/C/D with A=13, B=19.2, C=28.8, D=not connected. And tuner C is set to "same as tuner B". (Tuner A is the terrestrial tuner).

    Then all you have to do is organise your bouquets (your list of favourite channels) in whatever order you like. One of my bouquets mixes terrestrial channels with UK channels in 28.8 and various French, German, Spanish and Polish channels on 13 and 19.2. For me, changing from one channel to another is completely transparent. The box does all the work.

    Champion's Hyperion image is only configured to use the 28 satellite. So, after flashing it, you'll have to generate a satellites.xml from this website (choose 28.8 and 19.2) and FTP it to the box to /etc/enigma2. After copying and rebooting the box, I recommend you to do a scan of both satellites (I think it's called "service search" in the Setup menu), which will take a long time. After this, you'll have lots of channels to choose from in both satellites.

    Also, Champion's crossEPG configuration is only set to download the EPG for the 28.8 channels via that Sky background audio channel somebody mentioned. So you'll only get the 7 day EPG for these channels and when you watch a terrestrial channel, you'll get the 7 day EPG for the terrestrial channels as well. When I was running HDMU I couldn't get crossEPG to work for the 13 or 19.2 satellites (you only get now and next on these satellites). I haven't yet tried with Hyperion. If I succeed, I'll post it here.

    Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Dublin Deluge


    BopperSnr wrote: »
    - Watching videos - fast forward/rewind does not work properly in that it does not match the x speeds. it hardly moves at all when fast forward from x 2 to x 64 etc

    Haven't tried watching videos in Hyperion, but observed the same behaviour in HDMU. You press FF or REW and nothing happens. However, what you can do is to press the FF or REW button for a few seconds and a box will appear asking you for how many minutes you want to skip the video. E.g. you can set 1 min, 2 mins, etc. It's not as handy as fully working FF / REW buttons, but it's a good workaround.

    BTW, the FF / REW buttons do work when watching stuff you recorded with the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭v10


    Hi, I just picked up one of these Amiko Alien 2 boxes and intend to put Champions Hyperion v2 image on it. Is there any guide available online to do this ?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    What do people think of the HD picture quality on these receivers ?
    On my Triplex it seems to be a very dull and lifeless picture .Whites looks cream and the picture doesnt look HD .

    I have to turn the contrast up very high on my high end plasma to get the picture bright enough and even at that HD is still poor ,skin colours look off,and the picture is lacking detail seen on my other HD receivers.
    I have tried alot of setting changes but the picture just isnt good enough.

    I have it on the correct HD settings ,1080p and have tried a number of hdmi cables to rule that out .
    Its outputting a hd picture to the set but its just a disappointing picture .

    Have I a duff box ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭zefer


    v10 wrote: »
    Hi, I just picked up one of these Amiko Alien 2 boxes and intend to put Champions Hyperion v2 image on it. Is there any guide available online to do this ?

    Thanks.

    Search for pogmothoin's guide in this thread, its near the start

    Edit: Here it is but you don't really have to do as much anymore as championc's image has it nearly all done for you. You really only have to boot up in spark and upgrade from a usb key
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82445809&postcount=185


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Zardoz wrote: »
    What do people think of the HD picture quality on these receivers ?
    On my Triplex it seems to be a very dull and lifeless picture .Whites looks cream and the picture doesnt look HD .

    I have to turn the contrast up very high on my high end plasma to get the picture bright enough and even at that HD is still poor ,skin colours look off,and the picture is lacking detail seen on my other HD receivers.
    I have tried alot of setting changes but the picture just isnt good enough.

    I have it on the correct HD settings ,1080p and have tried a number of hdmi cables to rule that out .
    Its outputting a hd picture to the set but its just a disappointing picture .

    Have I a duff box ?

    On Spark the HD picture quality is possibly the best I've ever seen compared to any Sky HD/VU/Dreambox etc.

    Enigma2 does't quite match up to the Spark side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭v10


    zefer wrote: »
    Search for pogmothoin's guide in this thread, its near the start

    Edit: Here it is but you don't really have to do as much anymore as championc's image has it nearly all done for you. You really only have to boot up in spark and upgrade from a usb key
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82445809&postcount=185

    ah I hate when threads get big ! .. I assume this it it HERE .. thanks.

    edit .. seen you're edit thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭championc


    Sounds like you need to calibrate your Screen - http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration

    v10 - there's a separate Enigma2 thread. I wish the mods would Sticky it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    NUTZZ wrote: »
    On Spark the HD picture quality is possibly the best I've ever seen compared to any Sky HD/VU/Dreambox etc.

    Enigma2 does't quite match up to the Spark side.

    Yes Spark seems slightly better ,its definitely brighter and white does look white but its still not as good as my Dm800 .

    I had been led to believe that SH4 receivers had better picture quality than Mips based receivers but I prefer the picture on the Dm800 .

    I flick between a HD and an Sd version of the same channel on the Triplex but the difference in quality isnt as noticeable as on my Dm800 .
    On the Dm800 you can see the pores on a persons face ,the detail is excellent but on the Triplex it looks smoother and less detailed.
    Sounds like you need to calibrate your Screen - http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs...p4-calibration

    I actually did that but as I said I had to drive the contrast levels dangerously high to get the picture bright enough on the HD channels but as a result the SD channels looked crap.I tried tinkering with the settings in Hyperion too ,brightness,tint and saturation but couldnt really get the picture right.
    More experimentation is required i think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 PapaSmurf1


    Thanks to everyone for the detailed info - I think I'll definitely get this box and I'm looking forward to setting it up especially seeing so many of you guys are so happy with yours.

    Great to hear you have a similar setup to what I'd like Dublin Deluge. Thanks for explaining everything about the larger dish and the 3 lnb setup that is possible.

    I currently have a single lnb on an old sky disk and a cheap old receiver picking up the german channels but I'll definitely look into a setup like you have described.

    I'll be checking in here a bit more often to keep up with whats going on!

    Thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Realalemadrid


    smee again wrote: »
    Sounds like you only have one working tuner. Check your tuner configuration, tuner c must be set at equal to tuner b. You can also easily check both tuners in sat finder, make sure they both have SNR reading

    Thanks - I thought that when I was able to view 2 different channels the tuner must have been ok - but the connection was a bit loose - and she's purring now after a bit of diy to the cable - thanks for the help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Digidol


    Quick question about AutoBouquets, I have my channels organized into a list I like, can I use this plugin just to keep the channels up to date without it organizing it into the Sky channel numbers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Digidol wrote: »
    Quick question about AutoBouquets, I have my channels organized into a list I like, can I use this plugin just to keep the channels up to date without it organizing it into the Sky channel numbers?

    Yes, read the instructions for autobouquets for custom channel order, the readme is in the direcoory


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    why oh why wont my coolTV guide work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭stanley1


    Could anyone have a go at address below, I need to update Rat's picon amd channel list, keeps timing out for me.

    Thanks

    www.digitalworldz.co.uk


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Fresh Pots


    stanley1 wrote: »
    Could anyone have a go at address below, I need to update Rat's picon amd channel list, keeps timing out for me.

    Thanks

    www.digitalworldz.co.uk

    Download link just coming up as a blank page for me on my phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭stanley1


    Thanks for that, I guess it's down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭v10


    Ok not really getting anywhere with this ... hopefully someone here can help

    Got Amiko Alien 2 today .. read through various threads (may have missed some!) and tried to follow the setup guide posted by PogMoThoin here.

    first problem was ''go to Menu-->Spark-->Upgrade Software. Do a downgrade to 1.2.51 E2 Boot Upgrade'' .. I couldn't do this because when I went to Menu-->Spark it tries to do 'online login' but fails and upgrade software is then greyed out.

    So the box came with 1.5.54 installed some other forums seemed to suggest I could just upgrade from this so I put the e2upgrade plugin on, enabled it, put Champions Hyperion v2 on the root of my kingston usb stick and clicked Start OSD. It seemed to install ok. I changed the boot to enigma. so far so good .. it booted to a Hyperion screen and my amiko display says load 60 ..65 .. 70 .. 90 etc .. then box reboots and amiko display says 'Starting' and stays like that ..

    any help appreciated :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Fresh Pots


    stanley1 wrote: »
    Thanks for that, I guess it's down.

    its working now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭championc


    v10 wrote: »
    Ok not really getting anywhere with this ... hopefully someone here can help

    Got Amiko Alien 2 today .. read through various threads (may have missed some!) and tried to follow the setup guide posted by PogMoThoin here.

    first problem was ''go to Menu-->Spark-->Upgrade Software. Do a downgrade to 1.2.51 E2 Boot Upgrade'' .. I couldn't do this because when I went to Menu-->Spark it tries to do 'online login' but fails and upgrade software is then greyed out.

    So the box came with 1.5.54 installed some other forums seemed to suggest I could just upgrade from this so I put the e2upgrade plugin on, enabled it, put Champions Hyperion v2 on the root of my kingston usb stick and clicked Start OSD. It seemed to install ok. I changed the boot to enigma. so far so good .. it booted to a Hyperion screen and my amiko display says load 60 ..65 .. 70 .. 90 etc .. then box reboots and amiko display says 'Starting' and stays like that ..

    any help appreciated :o

    This image was built at 1080p. If you want to use 720p, do the following on the remote after the receiver has fully booted:-
    Press Menu, Up, Up, Up, Ok, Ok, Ok, Down, Right, Green

    For Scart
    Press Menu, Up, Up, Up, Ok, Ok, Ok, Left, Green


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭stanley1


    TheTechGuy wrote: »
    its working now

    not for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Fresh Pots


    stanley1 wrote: »
    not for me.

    I got to the page where it said i couldn't download as i don't have more than 5 posts. Its further than i got earlier so i assumed it was back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭championc


    I thought I had got Rat's in my Hyperion and from what I can tell, it hasn't changed from that version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭stanley1


    won't update cause site is down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    stanley1 wrote: »
    won't update cause site is down.
    The server may be down ,try again later,its not that urgent is it ?


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