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Man Allegedly Raped in Belfast

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    #32
    speedboatchase
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    getz wrote: »
    i thought it was only alleged rape? i bet there is more to this than meets the eye,lets look at the evidence,walking down the road with a shoulder bag at two in the morning in belfast,just what did he expect...a pat on the back

    Ah, the old "they were asking for it..." rape argument has arrived now too. Lovely stuff.


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    #33
    token101
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    hondasam wrote: »
    Fair enough but honestly it's not funny, I could never even consider laughing at rape. We are all entitled to our opinion.

    It's black humour. It's not laughing at someone being raped, it's laughing at the shock value of the joke. People don't have to like it, they can ignore it. I don't like certain jokes either, but I don't feel it's my right to impose my sensibilities upon others or lecture them like children.


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    #34
    token101
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    speedboatchase wrote: »
    Many comics tell jokes about rape but they're always broad one-liners not related to a specific incident.

    When you hear of an actual case of male rape that allegedly only recently occurred, why would your natural instinct be to make fun of the victim? You wouldn't dare if it were a female victim.

    Where did anyone make fun of this specific guy?


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    #35
    speedboatchase
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    token101 wrote: »
    Where did anyone make fun of this specific guy?

    When the fourth poster used the line "Squeal like a pig!" they very clearly made light of the incident and his alleged plight.


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    #36
    hondasam
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    token101 wrote: »
    It's black humour. It's not laughing at someone being raped, it's laughing at the shock value of the joke. People don't have to like it, they can ignore it. I don't like certain jokes either, but I don't feel it's my right to impose my sensibilities upon others or lecture them like children.

    Maybe it's the compassionate side of me but all I can feel is sorry for the guy.
    I'm not having a go at you ok.


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    #37
    Rabidlamb
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    Celeste Purring Hairpiece wrote: »
    Children, children, children.... Stop for a moment and think, do you really think those comments are funny or make you seem like the brightest to people around here?.

    Show some respect, if not for yourselfs then at least for the victims of sexual assault.

    Don't fall off your lofty perch Mrs. Lovejoy, hyper sensitive much ?.
    Thread was posted in After Hours, fair game within reason.
    I understand if you don't appreciate my knee jerk humour but I'd rather you kept if to yourself.


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    #38
    token101
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    speedboatchase wrote: »
    When the fourth poster used the line "Squeal like a pig!" they very clearly made light of the incident and his alleged plight.

    Or maybe they were just quoting a line from a somewhat related scene from a movie?


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    #39
    speedboatchase
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    token101 wrote: »
    Or maybe they were just quoting a line from a somewhat related scene from a movie?

    Apropos of nothing or to make light of the incident?


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    #40
    Sauve
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    Rabidlamb wrote: »

    Don't fall off your lofty perch Mrs. Lovejoy, hyper sensitive much ?.
    Thread was posted in After Hours, fair game within reason.
    I understand if you don't appreciate my knee jerk humour but I'd rather you kept if to yourself.


    How about you keep your over-the-top 'humour' to yourself, then we're all even?


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    #41
    eviltwin
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    I think this guy is really brave in coming forward and I wish him all the best in the future and hopefully whoever did it will be caught.


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    #42
    hondasam
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    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Thread was posted in After Hours, fair game within reason.

    Majority of people in AH would not consider this subject fair game.


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    #43
    28064212
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    That's neither a legally or grammatically sound case for the use of quotes.
    It is actually. The standard use of the term rape is for the crime. Quotes can be used to indicate a different usage of the word

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    #44
    token101
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    hondasam wrote: »
    Maybe it's the compassionate side of me but all I can feel is sorry for the guy.
    I'm not having a go at you ok.

    I didn't say you were having a go. It's just a point I was making. You can feel sorry for someone and still make jokes. 90% of jokes are about someone else's misfortune.


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    #45
    boardzz
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    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Clenches butt-cheeks.
    Jester252 wrote: »
    bites the pillow
    CardBordWindow wrote: »
    Squeal like a pig!
    benwavner wrote: »
    Maybe it was a chick with a really really really really big clit.

    You lot are a disgrace if you can joke about something like this. Sad really that the happiness in your lives are dictated by how many 'thanks' you receive on an internet forum.


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    #46
    hondasam
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    token101 wrote: »
    I didn't say you were having a go. It's just a point I was making. You can feel sorry for someone and still make jokes. 90% of jokes are about someone else's misfortune.

    You can make jokes about most things but not this. I'm as well able as the next person to make a joke but I draw the line at this subject.


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    #47
    token101
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    speedboatchase wrote: »
    Apropos of nothing or to make light of the incident?

    To make light of male rape I'd imagine. People do it everyday and no one says a word, when someone goes to prison for instance. Or is that somehow more acceptable humour because those people 'deserve' it?


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    #48
    KeithM89_old
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    Enough about the jokes ffs.


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    #49
    coffee_cake
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    that's awful poor guy
    getz wrote: »
    i thought it was only alleged rape? i bet there is more to this than meets the eye,lets look at the evidence,walking down the road with a shoulder bag at two in the morning in belfast,just what did he expect...a pat on the back

    the attacker was wearing the bag, learn to read


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    #50
    fasttalkerchat
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    This happened a few years ago too. The week after people were making jokes in a pub in the same town. "Where's Jimmy tonight? Don't know, hope he's not getting bummed."

    Its all quite tasteless but they were laughing at the embarrassment side and not the physical side of rape.


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    #51
    Giselle
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    getz wrote: »
    i thought it was only alleged rape? i bet there is more to this than meets the eye,lets look at the evidence,walking down the road with a shoulder bag at two in the morning in belfast,just what did he expect...a pat on the back


    Is this the male version of ''what did she expect when her dress was so short she was obviously up for it?''

    Equal opportunities victim blaming. Thats real progress alright.:(


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    #52
    speedboatchase
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    token101 wrote: »
    To make light of male rape I'd imagine. People do it everyday and no one says a word, when someone goes to prison for instance. Or is that somehow more acceptable humour because those people 'deserve' it?

    So if there was a thread about a woman that was raped in Belfast, would you use the same humour as it's "fair game within reason" or would you relent? Also, why would you hold the two to different standards if so? Do you only make fun of male rape victims because it's socially acceptable?


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    #53
    fasttalkerchat
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    getz wrote: »
    i thought it was only alleged rape? i bet there is more to this than meets the eye,lets look at the evidence,walking down the road with a shoulder bag at two in the morning in belfast,just what did he expect...a pat on the back

    He certainty didn't expect a willy up his arse!

    No way can you say he was asking for it.


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    #54
    a fat guy
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    I cannot understand how someone could be capable of doing something like that and I hope I never do.


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    #55
    Rabidlamb
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    What's the "Allegedly" bit about anyway, it's something I'd like to be sure of before I involve the police.


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    #56
    eviltwin
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    I suppose for some of the male posters male on male rape is still pretty shocking and humor helps defuse some of it.

    As a woman while I don't expect to be raped I am aware of the risks every time I go out and its always there in the back of my mind, most men never do I would imagine so stories like this must be hard to read.


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    #57
    Jester252
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    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    What's the "Allegedly" bit about anyway, it's something I'd like to be sure of before I involve the police.
    That would come from the police side. Looking into it to make sure the claim is not false and dealing with the aftermath


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    #58
    clappyhappy
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    getz wrote: »
    i thought it was only alleged rape? i bet there is more to this than meets the eye,lets look at the evidence,walking down the road with a shoulder bag at two in the morning in belfast,just what did he expect...a pat on the back

    Why should he expect anything, except to get where he was going safely. Are all males who carry a bag fair game to rape???


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    #59
    Sauve
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    I suppose for some of the male posters male on male rape is still pretty shocking and humor helps defuse some of it.

    As a woman while I don't expect to be raped I am aware of the risks every time I go out and its always there in the back of my mind, most men never do I would imagine so stories like this must be hard to read.

    You're probably right that men would be less mindful of potentially being raped (correct me if I'm wrong lads), but I'm sure they're a lot more aware of being generally attacked than girls are.
    Lately there are so many stories of guys being jumped on nights out and stabbed/ beaten up, this has to be a consideration when they head out for a night.


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    #60
    Jester252
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    Sauve wrote: »
    You're probably right that men would be less mindful of potentially being raped (correct me if I'm wrong lads), but I'm sure they're a lot more aware of being generally attacked than girls are.
    Lately there are so many stories of guys being jumped on nights out and stabbed/ beaten up, this has to be a consideration when they head out for a night.

    Your right but getting jumped is a major problem for lads. If any poster in hear was in UL you would have heard if rape lane ( no prize on how it got the name) You would try your best not to walk through it on your own. As of getting mugged or beening attacked because other think your a rapist/mugger


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    #61
    Pat Mustard
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    Jester252 wrote: »
    in UL you would have heard if rape lane

    Charming. Perhaps it's the Limerick equivalent of Lovers' Walk.


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