Roulette- is there a way of predicting the numbers

Formation

boniekt wrote: »

I think it wasn't just luck. He had system. tHowever there is no 100% system for roulette.
I like playing from time to time, sometimes winning, sometimes losing.
I am using the simple systems and they're working quite ok but the truth is, casino always wins with players who can't stop themselves from playing. People think that if they won 50 eur they probably will win another 50. The more time you playing, probability your lose is bigger.
That's why I have stop/loss limit - when I lose 20 or win 40 euro one day - my game is finished.

whether you play 10 sessions per months of 100 hands each or 1 session per month of 1000 hands your odds are the same.

That is not a "system".

If you play roullette you will lose sooner or later and that is a the casinos system.

If you are willing to lose some money for the enjoyment that is one thing but if you play roulette to make money you better get used to beans and toast.

the groutch

anyone who thinks there is a such thing as a "system" for roulette is an idiot, and deserves to lose their money.

Dazza

Guys what are yer opinions on this? This method uses the way the online roulette apps are programmed to its advantage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLvGhKpQML0&feature=youtu.be

beeroclock

Theres an intersting chapter in Alex's adventures in numberland on probability and gambling which might interest you

The house always wins!

the groutch

Dazza wrote: »

Guys what are yer opinions on this? This method uses the way the online roulette apps are programmed to its advantage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLvGhKpQML0&feature=youtu.be

that's the Martingale "system" :pac:

Dazza

the groutch wrote: »

that's the Martingale "system" :pac:

Yes but do you think it would work :L?

Formation

do a bit of work yourself,

if you double your bet 6 times and lose each time you have lost 63 times your first bet so you need to avoid that 6 bad spins in a row more than 1 in 63 times. It statistically happens 1 in 55 times.

There is absolutely no way to beat roulette.

It should be illeagle to offer this game.

Its such a stupid question that I have to figure out how to stop this thread appearing in "my threads" so i am not tempted to look at it again.

Dazza

Formation wrote: »

do a bit of work yourself,

if you double your bet 6 times and lose each time you have lost 63 times your first bet so you need to avoid that 6 bad spins in a row more than 1 in 63 times. It statistically happens 1 in 55 times.

There is absolutely no way to beat roulette.

It should be illeagle to offer this game.

Its such a stupid question that I have to figure out how to stop this thread appearing in "my threads" so i am not tempted to look at it again.

So you didnt watch the video :rolleyes:
The online application version is programmed that you cant get the same number 7 times in a row. ... So I was wondering is there a catch to this?

shocksy

Dazza wrote: »

So you didnt watch the video :rolleyes:
The online application version is programmed that you cant get the same number 7 times in a row. ... So I was wondering is there a catch to this?

I have seen online casino's bring the same colour or odd/even out more than 7 times.

Unless you have an unlimited bankroll in your account it will catch you sooner or later then clean you right out, the house also has the advantage of landing on green even after 7 straight colours etc. House will always win. Roulette cannot be beaten.

28064212

Dazza wrote: »

So you didnt watch the video :rolleyes:
The online application version is programmed that you cant get the same number 7 times in a row. ... So I was wondering is there a catch to this?

What's his basis for believing this exactly? It's much easier for a roulette application to just create a random number, they'd have to add coding to make sure the colour didn't appear 7 times in a row. And their reason for adding in this coding is... what? Why would they do extra work to make sure their system is easily beatable, using a system which has been around for decades, and is very commonly used in roulette by people who don't understand mathemathics (i.e. their target audience)?

Formation

Not all online casinos use the same software.

Some people have to be protected from themselves.

Others shouldnt be allowed to reproduce.

Anybody have a new and interesting way to say "roulette is unbeatable"?

numbers man

Formation wrote: »

Not all online casinos use the same software.

Some people have to be protected from themselves.

Others shouldnt be allowed to reproduce.

Anybody have a new and interesting way to say "roulette is unbeatable"?

Roulette has been beaten plent of times in the history of gambling. In fact, if you're smart enough, most casino games can be beaten.

Here's one who's beaten it :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUsEPkStpE4

And here is a very succesful man who has beaten almost every casino game.

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/thorp/tog.htm

lamoss

I had a look at those series of videos above ^^^ and they are well worth watching . As all those events shown are now in the past ,you can bet the casinos have covered any discrepancies due to the bias of the wheel.
As the guy in charge of the casino said the players spotted the bias in the wheels and used it to their advantage.
Now all the casinos most proberly swap the platters , the casings and bearings of the wheels pretty regular to prevent this.

If their is a system out there now, and is being used it will be kept very quiet by the casinos and whoever is using it so not to draw attention to it

DB74

numbers man wrote: »

And here is a very succesful man who has beaten almost every casino game.

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/thorp/tog.htm

I read the chapter on Roulette and he doesn't say that it can be beaten. He theorises that it may be possible to beat it using a movie camera, stopwatch and a computer to predict approximately where the ball may land based on the speed of the ball and speed of the rotator and using a computer to predict it but he never actually says that he used the method at all.

brumbo

You can predict the numbers if you find a biased wheel or dealer signatures. Otherwise you have to use Roulette systems and strategies that keep you in the game for a long time, meaning they accept randomness as a factors. You then need to play no zero roulette where the casino has no advantage.

Snowman11

PCPhoto wrote: »

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Is this statistically proven, or a personal preference with no empirical data?

The key sentence here is "see if you can guess the numbers or approx numbers which might fall". You're still basically playing the same guessing game as anyone else who plays roulette and will, in the long term, lose.

I'm not saying that it's guaranteed - its not a system per se .... just more calculated method of recording which area the ball will/should fall into.... instead of random selection.

I have played and won plenty of times (changing €200 to €1000 in less than 10mins) ... BUT .... I have also played and lost my €200 ...in less than 5 mins !!

I gamble what I can afford to loose and playing roulette should be done with the exact same discipline as other casino games .... consider your money lost before you start ...if you manage to walk away with your money or extra ...well and good, if you dont ...then at least you have enjoyed your game (hopefully).

I know what your saying once in a space in 3 hours I made 500 euro into 10000. But many times in a space in 2 mins I could lose 500 euro. Its not what can you bet it the amount u can lose when betting