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Roulette- is there a way of predicting the numbers

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  • 02-07-2012 10:13pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭


    Im always facinated why people on a roulette table take down the numbers......is this game down to luck? or is there a method to it?.....obiously covering ALL numbers is an option :) but i wanna profit:pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭BKC


    If you want to profit, don't play roulette.

    And, yes, it is a game of chance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    People write down the numbers to try and 2nd guess what's coming up next.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    When a roulette wheel is not changed some numbers come up more than others, therefore by taking down these numbers (you would need to take down 1000's of numbers to get a good idea) you find out which numbers come up most frequently on that specific table and bet in those numbers each time. While it does not gurantee anything it gives you I statistically better chance for predicting the number than the 2.7% you usually have


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    I find an interesting tactic is to watch the spinner/dealer .... and the previous numbers out...calculate which way the dealer spun the wheel and the distance left or right to the previous number....watch this for a number of spins and see if you can guess the numbers or approx numbers which might fall.

    alternatively .... pick 31 numbers at random and hope you dont get hit with ones that you didn't pick .... after a long while you hit profit (which can be easily wiped with a bit of bad luck)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    I find an interesting tactic is to watch the spinner/dealer .... and the previous numbers out...calculate which way the dealer spun the wheel and the distance left or right to the previous number....watch this for a number of spins and see if you can guess the numbers or approx numbers which might fall.

    Is this statistically proven, or a personal preference with no empirical data?

    The key sentence here is "see if you can guess the numbers or approx numbers which might fall". You're still basically playing the same guessing game as anyone else who plays roulette and will, in the long term, lose.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    They didn't build vegas by roulette been beatable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    jhegarty wrote: »
    They didn't build vegas by roulette been beatable.

    "But it is beatable. My mate won $600 on it coz of this system that he has" et cetera


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    jhegarty wrote: »
    They didn't build vegas by roulette been beatable.

    "But it is beatable. My mate won $600 on it coz of this system that he has" et cetera

    "system" meaning pure luck over a finite number of spins.

    Each bet you're offered on a roulette wheel has -EV for the player. Unless you're aware of a bias in the wheel or are in cahoots with the casino worker you can't win in the long run


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Is this statistically proven, or a personal preference with no empirical data?

    The key sentence here is "see if you can guess the numbers or approx numbers which might fall". You're still basically playing the same guessing game as anyone else who plays roulette and will, in the long term, lose.

    I'm not saying that it's guaranteed - its not a system per se .... just more calculated method of recording which area the ball will/should fall into.... instead of random selection.

    I have played and won plenty of times (changing €200 to €1000 in less than 10mins) ... BUT .... I have also played and lost my €200 ...in less than 5 mins !!

    I gamble what I can afford to loose and playing roulette should be done with the exact same discipline as other casino games .... consider your money lost before you start ...if you manage to walk away with your money or extra ...well and good, if you dont ...then at least you have enjoyed your game (hopefully).


  • Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Formation


    The answer is no.

    No system available.

    No way to beat it.

    Mug game.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭BKC


    Martingale. ;)

    I kid, but I do admit I've done it a few times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 gamblingsports


    Nope! this is a game of chance! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭gnella


    if you are really interested why not read this and test on live roulette(betfair have this and maybe some more)


  • Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Formation


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    I'm not saying that it's guaranteed - its not a system per se .... just more calculated method of recording which area the ball will/should fall into.... instead of random selection.

    I have played and won plenty of times (changing ?200 to ?1000 in less than 10mins) ... BUT .... I have also played and lost my ?200 ...in less than 5 mins !! I gamble what I can afford to loose and playing roulette should be done with the exact same discipline as other casino games .... consider your money lost before you start ...if you manage to walk away with your money or extra ...well and good, if you dont ...then at least you have enjoyed your game (hopefully).
    if you can do those equasions in your head in the time of each spin you are the smartest person on the planet! Fcuk they couldnt even measure you on an IQ scale!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Formation wrote: »
    if you can do those equasions in your head in the time of each spin you are the smartest person on the planet! Fcuk they couldnt even measure you on an IQ scale!

    think outside the box !!

    you look at the wheel where the last number is and look left and right of it .... its not always about maths - common sense also works !

    watch which direction the spinner is turning the wheel and watch the result - takes less than 2mins to get into a good guestimation of where it might land .... but its only an indication of where it "should" land .... sometimes it'll work...sometimes it wont !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 460 ✭✭four18


    Add the numbers 1-36 together = 666. Run Far away !


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    four18 wrote: »
    Add the numbers 1-36 together = 666. Run Far away !

    Also add the 3 numbers in each of the streets it equals 6.

    1 + 2 + 3 = 6

    Then the 10,11,12 street,
    1+0+1+1+1+2=6

    34,35,36 street,
    3+4+3+5+3+6 = 24 - 2+4=6.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    four18 wrote: »
    Add the numbers 1-36 together = 666. Run Far away !
    Doyler92 wrote: »
    Also add the 3 numbers in each of the streets it equals 6.

    1 + 2 + 3 = 6

    Then the 10,11,12 street,
    1+0+1+1+1+2=6

    34,35,36 street,
    3+4+3+5+3+6 = 24 - 2+4=6.

    What is the relevance of 6, or 666 for that matter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Ah right, thanks. Thought there was some sort of sensible/logical thinking behind it there for a second. ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 460 ✭✭four18




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    What is the relevance of 6, or 666 for that matter?

    None really as such. Just an interesting fact I suppose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭lorrieq


    I have used the doubling strategy before.

    "Suppose your initial bet is $10 on red. If the ball lands on a black number, you would double your next bet to $20. If you were to lose that wager, you would double your next bet to $40. Let’s suppose luck favors you and you win that bet. The $40 would compensate you for the $10 and $20 losses from the previous two bets. Plus, it would leave you with a $10 profit (equal to your initial bet)."

    It was working well for me and my mate... until we got 8 blacks in a row. We had started with 70 quid and began always with a 50 cent bet, which was subsequently doubled many times.

    If you have enough money this could potentially work. Most roulettes have upper betting limits though. However, reaching these with this strategy would be a very unlucky streak.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    lorrieq wrote: »
    I have used the doubling strategy before.

    "Suppose your initial bet is $10 on red. If the ball lands on a black number, you would double your next bet to $20. If you were to lose that wager, you would double your next bet to $40. Let’s suppose luck favors you and you win that bet. The $40 would compensate you for the $10 and $20 losses from the previous two bets. Plus, it would leave you with a $10 profit (equal to your initial bet)."

    It was working well for me and my mate... until we got 8 blacks in a row. We had started with 70 quid and began always with a 50 cent bet, which was subsequently doubled many times.

    If you have enough money this could potentially work. Most roulettes have upper betting limits though. However, reaching these with this strategy would be a very unlucky streak.

    No, just no!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    lorrieq wrote: »
    If you have enough money this could potentially work.

    Anything "could potentially work", but the odds are stacked against you. The "system" that you are using is well known, well documented, and doesn't work.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)


  • Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭lorrieq


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    lorrieq wrote: »
    If you have enough money this could potentially work.

    Anything "could potentially work", but the odds are stacked against you. The "system" that you are using is well known, well documented, and doesn't work.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)

    I know it's well known.

    Apologies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    A Russian crew did come up with a way of predicting the numbers and cleared out a few London casinos before getting barred. They were allowed keep the cash though because there's no law against what they did in the UK. Try this in the States and you'll end up with your head in a vice:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4069629.stm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ryancooney


    If you enjoy losing your money while seeing a ball spin around,play roulette,i like spending my money on other things but each to their own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    I just bet a 3rd of the wheel (or thereabouts) if I am in the mood for roulette, if Im hitting its great, if not meh, I tried to work out a system for roulette but there just isn't one tbh.

    I did watch a guy one night who amazed me though, he would sit and take note of each number on a big pad, would only bet 3 numbers every few spins and did hit about 70% of the time, no idea how he was doing it, Im sure it must have been luck regardless of what he thought he was doing though :)

    He refused to divulge the method he was using.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 boniekt


    I think it wasn't just luck. He had system. tHowever there is no 100% system for roulette.
    I like playing from time to time, sometimes winning, sometimes losing.
    I am using the simple systems and they're working quite ok but the truth is, casino always wins with players who can't stop themselves from playing. People think that if they won 50 eur they probably will win another 50. The more time you playing, probability your lose is bigger.
    That's why I have stop/loss limit - when I lose 20 or win 40 euro one day - my game is finished.


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