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hondasam

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

In some towns that means just not going to the shops. Mullingar town for example, you have to pay to park on the main street and in all carparks. If you don't have change on you its a long drive to an ATM then to get change if you don't leave the car unattended somewhere you have to pay.

You pay to park on main streets and car parks in most if not all towns at this stage. Can you not go to the ATM before you park?
Lots of supermarkets and petrol stations have ATM machines, this is no excuse.

Drummerboy08

hondasam wrote: »

You pay to park on main streets and car parks in most if not all towns at this stage. Can you not go to the ATM before you park?
Lots of supermarkets and petrol stations have ATM machines, this is no excuse.

The OP tried to go to an ATM in this case, but it wouldn't give him cash because of problems with his account. Therefore he had to go to the bank.

Bruthal

frozenfrozen wrote: »

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eth0

I think there should be a national "do not clamp" register. Anyone who is against clamping can sign up to it and if they park in the wrong spot they only get a fine instead

All those submissive folk who prefer a more invasive approach to their wrongdoing can stay off the register and get clamped.

OldmanMondeo

eth0 wrote: »

All those submissive folk who prefer a more invasive approach to their wrongdoing can stay off the register and get clamped.

Won't work. Private companies are not allowed get personal details from cr reg's, Data protection.

Yawns

Imo if it's a parking place for shop fronts you should be given a grace period of 30 mins. This would allow people who are there to go to the shops in the area a chance to buy what they need without having to worry about getting clamped. If they are over 30 minutes then work away. This stops park and ride users.

This situation is currently in effect in Tallaght village around by Smyths, Abberley court Hotel, Kingsbury area. 30 minutes free parking with no ticket required. After that you must pay or be clamped.

http://goo.gl/maps/I0qF


I'm in favour of clamping regulations and would prefer a 30 minute grace period as it would promote people to continue to go to the local shops. Park and Ride abusers will get punished. Most clamping practices these days only push people away from local shops and into the larger retailers such as Tesco where they have free parking while you shop.

FewFew

Gonna jump in here and just say this is a heroic thread! Read it from the start up to about page 15 or so and had to stop, but, fair play to all the lads who helped out a fellow boardsie in need.

Gran Hermano

Fewcifur wrote: »

Gonna jump in here and just say this is a heroic thread! Read it from the start up to about page 15 or so and had to stop, but, fair play to all the lads who helped out a fellow boardsie in need.

I agree 100%, it is just a pity that one individual has turned it into a 90 post plus personal pro clamping crusade at this stage.

fasttalkerchat

Gran Hermano wrote: »

I agree 100%, it is just a pity that one individual has turned it into a 90 post plus personal pro clamping crusade at this stage.

The reasons why that may have happened came up during the thread... it all makes sense now!

Jesus Shaves

I was under the impression that anan1 was not allowed to post in this thread again, it's turned a legendary thread into bickering and completely ruined it

Ray Pissed

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Fair play to Kildare, Bummerboy and Gary. Ridiculously nice gesture with no reward other than the satisfaction of helping someone out.

Threads like this make Boards.

I totally agree with this point.

fasttalkerchat

Ray Pissed wrote: »

I totally agree with this point.

RayPist and CerealRapist... you the same person?!

Wexfordian

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

I was under the impression that anan1 was not allowed to post in this thread again, it's turned a legendary thread into bickering and completely ruined it

I'm absolutely amazed by the number of people who agreed with a ban from the thread for being "a clamping apologist". Not for being in any way abusive, just for disagreeing with the orthodoxy.

Do you really want boards.ie run on that basis?

fasttalkerchat

Wexfordian wrote: »

I'm absolutely amazed by the number of people who agreed with a ban from the thread for being "a clamping apologist". Not for being in any way abusive, just for disagreeing with the orthodoxy.

Do you really want boards.ie run on that basis?

He was totally derailing the thread. I don't agree with banning anyone the way it happens here but I think he should have been sent to make a new thread.

Wexfordian

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

He was totally derailing the thread. I don't agree with banning anyone the way it happens here but I think he should have been sent to make a new thread.

Why though? He was entirely on topic, though it later expanded out on both sides.

frozenfrozen

Wexfordian wrote: »

Why though? He was entirely on topic, though it later expanded out on both sides.

Wexfordian has been banned for this post.

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BUBBLE WRAP

Wexfordian wrote: »

Why though? He was entirely on topic, though it later expanded out on both sides.

Okay, bye bye.

Anan1

eth0 wrote: »

I think there should be a national "do not clamp" register. Anyone who is against clamping can sign up to it and if they park in the wrong spot they only get a fine instead

All those submissive folk who prefer a more invasive approach to their wrongdoing can stay off the register and get clamped.

You can sign up to never being clamped by a private clamper again right now. It's easy, and it's 100% watertight. Don't park on someone else's property.

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

He was totally derailing the thread. I don't agree with banning anyone the way it happens here but I think he should have been sent to make a new thread.

By derailing the thread you really mean disagreeing with the herd. Every post I made was on-topic and reasoned, even in the face of sustained personal abuse. This thread is the most extreme example of mob mentality i've ever seen in Motors, and i've been around a while. The general attitude can be condensed into three words - burn the witch. It's only now, days later, that some of you are calming down to the point of being able to string together a coherent argument in favour of your point of view.

BUBBLE WRAP

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Okay, bye bye.

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

I believe you can get your opinion across without sly little comments like that. :rolleyes:

To Anan1's point many comments towards him have been disgraceful, a sort of bullying imo.

fasttalkerchat

Anan1 wrote: »

You can sign up to never being clamped by a private clamper again right now. It's easy, and it's 100% watertight. Don't park on someone else's property.By derailing the thread you really mean disagreeing with the herd. Every post I made was on-topic and reasoned, even in the face of sustained personal abuse. This thread is the most extreme example of mob mentality i've ever seen in Motors, and i've been around a while. The general attitude can be condensed into three words - burn the witch. It's only now, days later, that some of you are calming down to the point of being able to string together a coherent argument in favour of your point of view.

Ok. I think this has run its course. The thread was about the OP's attempt to get a clamp removed. Thanks to everyone here he got it off. Fair play to everyone involved and I'm finished posting here.

If someone is interested in a legal debate there is a place for that thread and I will enjoy reading both sides of that argument.

BUBBLE WRAP

RoverJames wrote: »

To Anan1's point many comments towards him have been disgraceful, a sort of bullying imo.

That bye bye comment wasnt aimed at anan1

BUBBLE WRAP

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

That bye bye comment wasnt aimed at anan1

I know.

You could have gotten your point across without a sly little comment like that though. I'm struggling to fathom you not understanding the hypocrisy tbh.

Stark

Anan1 wrote: »

You can sign up to never being clamped by a private clamper again right now. It's easy, and it's 100% watertight. Don't park on someone else's property.

That's about as inane a statement as "leave the country if you disagree with how things are run". Also doesn't address the issue of other unsuspecting people who get screwed by the cowboys.

Anan1 wrote:

By derailing the thread you really mean disagreeing with the herd. Every post I made was on-topic and reasoned, even in the face of sustained personal abuse. This thread is the most extreme example of mob mentality i've ever seen in Motors, and i've been around a while. The general attitude can be condensed into three words - burn the witch. It's only now, days later, that some of you are calming down to the point of being able to string together a coherent argument in favour of your point of view.

And your attitude is typical of the burn people for the slightest technicality attitude. Having not one shred of compassion for the many people who simply made a mistake and didn't set out that morning to screw some poor property owner and walk home minus €120 of their hard earned cash as a result. Any decent human being would give someone the benefit of the doubt if there was ambiguity rather than giving into greed and robbing them of their cash as soon as they find something to catch them out on.

It's like in your world, someone who spells their name incorrectly on a Ryanair ticket deserves the penalty fee because they set out to "abuse Ryanair" instead of simply making a mistake.

It's lucky we still do have decent human beings like drummerboy who think with motives other than greed and looking to screw people.

What about unsuspecting property owners getting screwed by folks parking on their property?

Two sides to every coin.

BUBBLE WRAP

RoverJames wrote: »

I know.

You could have gotten your point across without a sly little comment like that though. I'm struggling to fathom you not understanding the hypocrisy tbh.

Righty, rj.

Anan1

Stark wrote: »

That's about as inane a statement as "leave the country if you disagree with how things are run".

Nonsense, we're talking about privately owned land. You have no natural right to be there. If you don't like the owners rules then stay away.

Stark wrote: »

Also doesn't address the issue of other unsuspecting people who get screwed by the cowboys.

This is a straw man argument. This thread is about the OP's case, is it not?

Stark wrote: »

And your attitude is typical of the burn people for the slightest technicality attitude. Having not one shred of compassion for the many people who simply made a mistake and didn't set out that morning to screw some poor property owner and walk home minus €120 of their hard earned cash as a result.

This isn't a Hollywood courtroom melodrama, the OP chose to park in a private car park without paying. You're conflating your own issues with clampers with the OP's case.

Stark wrote: »

It's like in your world, someone who spells their name incorrectly on a Ryanair ticket deserves the penalty fee because they set out to "abuse Ryanair" instead of simply making a mistake.

Do you want to address my points, or do you just want to make up things about me and criticize them instead?

Jesus Shaves

Wexfordian wrote: »

I'm absolutely amazed by the number of people who agreed with a ban from the thread for being "a clamping apologist". Not for being in any way abusive, just for disagreeing with the orthodoxy.

Do you really want boards.ie run on that basis?

no, not at all, maybe make a new thread to talk about the legalities of clamping

Jesus Shaves

RoverJames wrote: »

What about unsuspecting property owners getting screwed by folks parking on their property?

Seeing as most car parks are attached to retail land how dare customers park on their private land, personally i think that if you know that clamping exists and enforced on a privately owned car park, don't shop there.

Stark

Anan1 wrote: »

Nonsense, we're talking about privately owned land. You have no natural right to be there. If you don't like the owners rules then stay away.

Plenty of people park in good faith in the belief that they're not going to be screwed by the property owner. It's not people sneaking in after night to places where they shouldn't be, it's people looking to avail of the business owner's services. Any such business owner who turns around and robs them after catching them out on a technicality is a contemptible prick. At least with Ryanair, you have the choice of not flying with them if they catch you out on something. If it was a case of someone deciding they were going to use someone's land while they fecked off to work or whereever else for a couple of hours, fair enough, but I'm not a heartless power tripper who thinks that every single person who parked in good faith but didn't read the signs clearly enough deserves everything they get.

I'm actually somewhat in agreement with the sentiment of not parking where there are clampers (I boycott all businesses that use APCOA personally) but from the point of view of not giving such "property owners" business, not that the people who do give them business deserve to be robbed.

Anan1 wrote:

This is a straw man argument. This thread is about the OP's case, is it not?

It's more general than that.

Anan1 wrote:

This isn't a Hollywood courtroom melodrama, the OP chose to park in a private car park without paying. You're conflating your own issues with clampers with the OP's case.

The punishment for not having change with him was completely disproportionate to the crime of going to get change. Even after being helped out, he still had to hang around for hours, it's like he got away scott free with the <20 mins of "free parking".

Anan1

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

no, not at all, maybe make a new thread to talk about the legalities of clamping

OP was privately clamped, and some boardsies removed the clamp. The legality or otherwise of clamping is central to any discussion of that. You want nobody to be allowed to disagree with you, and you got abusive when you didn't get what you want. Doesn't say much for your faith in your own point of view.

Stark wrote: »

Plenty of people park in good faith in the belief that they're not going to be screwed by the property owner. It's not people sneaking in after night to places where they shouldn't be, it's people looking to avail of the business owner's services. Any such business owner who turns around and robs them after catching them out on a technicality is a contemptible prick.

This was no technicality, the OP left their car there for 20 minutes without a ticket.

Stark wrote: »

At least with Ryanair, you have the choice of not flying with them if they catch you out on something. If it was a case of someone deciding they were going to use someone's land while they fecked off to work or whereever else for a couple of hours, fair enough,

You have the choice with parking too. The OP could have chosen not to use that car park.

Stark wrote: »

but I'm not a heartless power tripper who thinks that every single person who parked in good faith but didn't read the signs clearly enough deserves everything they get.

The OP's getting clamped had nothing to do with not reading the signs, and everything to do with leaving the car for 20 minutes without a ticket.

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

Seeing as most car parks are attached to retail land how dare customers park on their private land, personally i think that if you know that clamping exists and enforced on a privately owned car park, don't shop there.

Now that's fair enough, you choose where to spend your money. If you don't like the t&cs, then you're perfectly entitled to shop elsewhere.