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Plywood clock

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Started it this morning for the first time. Hands free for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Up and running in its new home.......

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sadly I can't see your image P. Seems to be tied into google, so maybe you have to be a member/logged into that to see it?

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Its possibly, and likely, that the picture address URL was copied and pasted, but the address no longer exists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Sorry about that, it is opening for me, but then again it would....:p

    I'll see if I can find what I did wrong....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    As Wibbs said, it looks like a link to a gmail attachment, so you'd have access but we don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Hosting on something like photobucket will work. You can then embed the photos here with the photo button thing and the photo address, which will remain constant and accessible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    I just want to try this....

    please let me know if it works

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Yes that worked perfectly now


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Dont forget to set the hour hand at the proper position if its not at an hour marker when the minute hand is at 12:)

    They wont drift apart, but can be knocked out if touch them by accident if setting the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Eventually did the hands gear train and the hands, and dial on the clock in posts 47, 51.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    About 2 months ago I got a clock mainspring, and last tuesday I got onto the autocad and drew up a frame, used the same gear prints from the clock in the previous post, and modified the weight drive gear design to take the spring. The escape wheel is different though, it has 60 teeth on it instead of the usual 30, to accommodate a pendulum 1/4 the normal length.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    Bruthal wrote: »
    About 2 months ago I got a clock mainspring, and last tuesday I got onto the autocad and drew up a frame, used the same gear prints from the clock in the previous post, and modified the weight drive gear design to take the spring. The escape wheel is different though, it has 60 teeth on it instead of the usual 30, to accommodate a pendulum 1/4 the normal length.

    Uhhhh ????:eek:

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭893bet


    I am building a house at the moment and really want to make one of these a feature in the hallway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Uhhhh ????:eek:

    It's a plywood "Spring Drive" :D ...i.e. no weights


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    wow, those clocks are amazing. Its time to give up the day job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    donegal. wrote: »
    wow, those clocks are amazing. Its time to give up the day job.
    I don't know about that. Its a lot of work cutting the parts out. Drawing them is time consuming too, although any particular design is at least just drawn once, with modifications later when improvements are thought of.

    Its all just an interest I have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    Bruthal wrote: »
    I don't know about that. Its a lot of work cutting the parts out. Drawing them is time consuming too, although any particular design is at least just drawn once, with modifications later when improvements are thought of.

    Its all just an interest I have.

    Dont underestimate what you are doing, its a great skill

    If ever off loading let me know...

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Dont underestimate what you are doing, its a great skill
    +1000. I once tried to make a grasshopper escapement out of wood and it ended up a well sanded slug that didn't escape…

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Wibbs wrote: »
    +1000. I once tried to make a grasshopper escapement out of wood and it ended up a well sanded slug that didn't escape…

    Its one i`m going to have a go at soon I think. I added a grasshopper set of parts to one of the drawings today, to see how I will have to modify one of the existing frame drawings to take it. Needs a bit more height above the escape wheel than a deadbeat pallet needs. Its on the left of drawing, complete with escape wheel. Original escape wheel is on the other side of the hour hand gear set of 4 gears in the drawing and higher up.

    This drawing of gears is from the clock first seen in post 16. I might end up with a well sanded slug myself:D

    4943863_orig.jpg


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I highly bloody doubt it B. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I highly bloody doubt it B. :)

    What clock was it you had a go at, your own design?

    Edit: I remember now you said it was your own design.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Bruthal wrote: »
    I remember now you said it was your own design.
    and that right there was the rock I was dashed upon B. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Wibbs wrote: »
    and that right there was the rock I was dashed upon B. :D

    Is there any trace of it left, or is it long gone?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Oh long gone. Couldn't keep the evidence around. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    I was looking through the drawings I had done and decided to do a quick test rig and try out the grasshopper setup I had posted the drawing of in post 71, with some slight mods to it. Surprisingly enough, it worked easier than I was expecting.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    That grasshopper will be in the next mechanism, which might be something different I have in mind, if it runs properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,265 ✭✭✭MiCr0


    how about something like this as a follow on project?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    MiCr0 wrote: »
    how about something like this as a follow on project?

    Someone sent me that on YouTube the other day too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    I dont have enough steel shafts left to install all gears needed to run it properly, but I got enough together to sort of half test the mechanism.

    No braking fins yet so the rewind is too fast. A temporary short pendulum as well means its ticking at double speed.



    Braking setup added, and its on temporary shelf with full length pendulum. Earlier grasshopper in it as well.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Proper main drive setup done now. I was surprised how well it ran on the first proper start.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I love this thread. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Did a bit on it today after leaving it running a couple of weeks, and so its probably just about done now. Perhaps paint hands or something. Drew up a sort of shelf that it just sits on, rather than screw it to the wall, for a change.

    It can be seen that it is a one minute remontoire, as it goes from 22:11 to 22:12 at remontoire rewind. They are usually either 30 seconds, or one minute intervals, easily enough changeable from one to the other.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Another test rig put together, this time to test if a balance wheel is viable, instead of a pendulum.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Your video is set to Private B.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Fixed now I think.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    That is very cool. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Yea I didn't think it likely to get bearing points low enough in friction to work. But it's working very well. It would be an interesting setup in a clock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    That's amazing...

    At some point you gotta start selling these things...please !

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    At some point you gotta start selling these things...please !

    Its never the intention, more experimenting and doing it as a passtime, but eventually I will have to probably move one or two on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Its never the intention, more experimenting and doing it as a passtime, but eventually I will have to probably move one or two on.

    I'm sure a lot of us are interested if you're offering! My landing is looking rather bare right now ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    would it be possible to sell these flat pack, ikea style?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    donegal. wrote: »
    would it be possible to sell these flat pack, ikea style?

    It would if I did a bolt together frame, which is what I am drawing right this minute for this balance wheel setup.

    For it to work as a flat pack setup without having to build and test first, would want a laser cutter really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Continued on the balance wheel idea a bit, after leaving it for a while. Still a bit to be done with it, but its running.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Eventually got around to some progress on the balance wheel mechanism. Near enough done now. A few finishing touches at some stage. I was surprised how well the balance wheel works, as it is easier to get a pendulum swinging with almost no friction at its pivot point.

    Click image below and the video is at the bottom of the page, with photos of some of the design and build progress near the top.

    img-838e0214976744741ee0235459d4833a-v_1_orig.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Its still going anyway. A video from half hour ago.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I adore the grasshopper escapement. Though it can have a tendency to run away when being wound IIRC and I can't see it ever being made to work in a watch any time soon, it's damned near frictionless and is the most elegant escapement ever IMHO. Mesmerising to watch.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I adore the grasshopper escapement. Though it can have a tendency to run away when being wound IIRC and I can't see it ever being made to work in a watch any time soon, it's damned near frictionless and is the most elegant escapement ever IMHO. Mesmerising to watch.

    Yes I love them myself. I modified the clock I have in the hall (post #16) to a grasshopper earlier this year as well. They are very elegant, and a lot quieter than the graham ones. Fascinating to watch them.

    They can indeed free run if not careful on winding, so the pendulum can be held to one side during winding, although the spring powered ones such as the balance wheel one there, can be wound without the movement being stopped, as the spring still keeps the driving power on.

    The other remontoire one I have in the living room can also be wound unaffected (post#84), once its wound before the dropping wheel driving the escape wheel gets to the bottom. That one shares a lot of the same parts with the balance wheel one, same movement in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭eljono


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Its still going anyway. A video from half hour ago.

    That is a thing of beauty, fantastic job!


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Bruthal.


    An interesting addition to the clock making shed



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