Next Liverpool Manager

manual_man

updated odds on next permanent manager

Dalglish is gone

Pudsy33

manual_man wrote: »

updated odds on next permanent manager

Dalglish is gone

as a united fan this is awful news

manual_man

Pudsy33 wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

updated odds on next permanent manager

Dalglish is gone

as a united fan this is awful news

Dalglish did perfectly alright. He inherited a sh*t squad, got us to the final of two cups, and invested in new young talent for the future, supposedly what the owners wanted :rolleyes: what a joke

Pudsy33

manual_man wrote: »

Dalglish did perfectly alright. He inherited a sh*t squad, got us to the final of two cups, and invested in new young talent for the future, supposedly what the owners wanted :rolleyes: what a joke

I actually think the sacking was harsh, but not sure the cup finals mad up for the very poor league form. Any this isn't the time or the place.

Threw 5e on Rjickard the be next boss.

De Dannan

I hope its not Rafa anyway

SteelyDanJalapeno

Mourinho please

FlawedGenius

AVB.

manual_man

MoN

tinodz

FlawedGenius wrote: »

AVB.

Whoever wins, they lose

manual_man

Might punt Van Gaal. The man has a phenomenal record

Nuri Sahin

Lads, just remember there is a seperate soccer forum for proper discussion and this is a betting tips thread at the core obviously.


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Anyway.

Stuck a tenner on AVB to Liverpool @ 12/1, heart over head. Got it right last year with him to Chelsea. But this time, I actually hope it comes in.

manual_man

inforfun wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

Might punt Van Gaal. The man has a phenomenal record

Anyone who managed not to qualify with that Dutch squad in 2002 is a failure.

How much more of a stupid and ignorant statement can that be. We're talking club football. And his club management record is superb. Took him at 50's

Nuri Sahin

-Ade- wrote: »

Lads, just remember there is a seperate soccer forum for proper discussion and this is a betting tips thread at the core obviously.


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Anyway.

Stuck a tenner on AVB to Liverpool @ 12/1, heart over head. Got it right last year with him to Chelsea. But this time, I actually hope it comes in.

Dropped to 9/4 best price.

Nuri Sahin

Villas Boas odds have dropped to 13/8 at PP now.

manual_man

-Ade- wrote: »

Villas Boas odds have dropped to 13/8 at PP now.

You got in well there. I still can't see them hiring him though, he failed pretty bad in his first managerial job overseas

Nuri Sahin

manual_man wrote: »

You got in well there. I still can't see them hiring him though, he failed pretty bad in his first managerial job overseas

I personally don't look at Villas Boas' time at Chelsea with any real note of worry. I'll just skim the surface here, but I said in the Chelsea thread last summer that he'd need a season at the very least to shape the team in his style. He wasn't given that time. Also, last year before I felt Kenny had earned himself a season (I didn't expect us to be that good for the first 6 months of his 2nd term!), he was my no.1 choice alongside Klopp at Dortmund to take over at Anfield. I still have full faith in the guy and his footballing methods. He just never stood much of a chance at Chelsea from the offset with the egos there, players (who can only play one style of football really) and owner. Look at all the great

As for FSG considering him for Liverpool. He ticks every box. Young, exciting, very stat based, forward thinking coach. Out of those available currently, they'd be mad not at least try and get him on board.

manual_man

-Ade- wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

You got in well there. I still can't see them hiring him though, he failed pretty bad in his first managerial job overseas

I personally don't look at Villas Boas' time at Chelsea with any real note of worry. I'll just skim the surface here, but I said in the Chelsea thread last summer that he'd need a season at the very least to shape the team in his style. He wasn't given that time. Also, last year before I felt Kenny had earned himself a season (I didn't expect us to be that good for the first 6 months of his 2nd term!), he was my no.1 choice alongside Klopp at Dortmund to take over at Anfield. I still have full faith in the guy and his footballing methods. He just never stood much of a chance at Chelsea from the offset with the egos there, players (who can only play one style of football really) and owner. Look at all the great

As for FSG considering him for Liverpool. He ticks every box. Young, exciting, very stat based, forward thinking coach. Out of those available currently, they'd be mad not at least try and get him on board.

Hmmm i'm not sure. I mean football is about man management. Fair enough, AVB wasn't faced with that situation before, but he handled it all wrong. Sure, he'll have learned from it. Personally i believe in gaining every last drop possible from an ageing player (if he's good enough). Do clearouts in the summer if you really need to. Otherwise you're in for a disaster. I like AVB, he's young, but he's still got alot to learn in terms of management. I can see him going on to achieve great success, at different clubs, but at this time i'm not sure he's the right man for Liverpool. I have a feeling FSG will want a man who's 'been there, sold the t-shirts, brought home the medals' (at different clubs). That's why Van Gaal jumped out at me, he's won a league title with EVERY club he's ever managed, all the more impressive when you consider one of them was AZ Alkmaar. He also has big club experience. And he's not too old. I get the impression from FSG they're an ambitious group, and personally i'd be very surprised if they didn't hire someone with those type of said credentials. Was very lucky and got Van Gaal (on average) at 65's on betfair, i'm in for a hefty sum if he becomes the next Liverpool manager. BIG if obviously, but i definitely thought it worthy of a punt

Nuri Sahin

manual_man wrote: »

Hmmm i'm not sure. I mean football is about man management. Fair enough, AVB wasn't faced with that situation before, but he handled it all wrong. Sure, he'll have learned from it. Personally i believe in gaining every last drop possible from an ageing player (if he's good enough). Do clearouts in the summer if you really need to. Otherwise you're in for a disaster. I like AVB, he's young, but he's still got alot to learn in terms of management. I can see him going on to achieve great success, at different clubs, but at this time i'm not sure he's the right man for Liverpool. I have a feeling FSG will want a man who's 'been there, sold the t-shirts, brought home the medals' (at different clubs). That's why Van Gaal jumped out at me, he's won a league title with EVERY club he's ever managed, all the more impressive when you consider one of them was AZ Alkmaar. He also has big club experience. And he's not too old. I get the impression from FSG they're an ambitious group, and personally i'd be very surprised if they didn't hire someone with those type of said credentials. Was very lucky and got Van Gaal (on average) at 65's on betfair, i'm in for a hefty sum if he becomes the next Liverpool manager. BIG if obviously, but i definitely thought it worthy of a punt

He was following the owners instructions though,

• Introduce an attacking football philosophy

• Refresh the squad

• Play Torres, quite clear Roman wanted him to feature as much as possible early on last season. But IMO, Villas Boas would have played him anyway also.

• Win the CL

He did/was on course for all of that, the 2nd point there were steps towards that. I'm not sure what people are expecting. I'm never said he's the finished article by any means but he is way ahead of the curve in regards in many areas.

FSG are about building a dynasty through youth, on or off the field.

Anyway, we'll have to let this play out

edit - just as I finished my post..

AVB's agent confirms no contact from #LFC but that it would be an 'appealing position'

manual_man

I'm gonna take the 'no contact from #LFC' statement as proof they're in a tulip field in Holland talking to a 60 year old about the merits of Total Football :pac:

manual_man

Wigan Athletic press officer Ed Jones tells the BBC he cannot comment on speculation that Roberto Martinez has been given permission to speak to Liverpool

Ah jaysis

Lasagna Diarra

I don't know how anyone can defend AVB, just look at the difference between AVB's Chelsea and Di Matteo's Chelsea, it's like night a day. I really hope they hire AVB so I can bet against Liverpool week in week out next season.

carbon nanotube

-Ade- wrote: »

I personally don't look at Villas Boas' time at Chelsea with any real note of worry. I'll just skim the surface here, but I said in the Chelsea thread last summer that he'd need a season at the very least to shape the team in his style. He wasn't given that time. Also, last year before I felt Kenny had earned himself a season (I didn't expect us to be that good for the first 6 months of his 2nd term!), he was my no.1 choice alongside Klopp at Dortmund to take over at Anfield. I still have full faith in the guy and his footballing methods. He just never stood much of a chance at Chelsea from the offset with the egos there, players (who can only play one style of football really) and owner. Look at all the great

As for FSG considering him for Liverpool. He ticks every box. Young, exciting, very stat based, forward thinking coach. Out of those available currently, they'd be mad not at least try and get him on board.

soon we will need a dossier on managers names

they all seem to have 3 initials now, when did this nonsense begin., just realised FSG are apparently owners of LFC. ::::

- cnt

Luap

Martinez @ 5/6

Lumping material imo.

manual_man

i just did 10 on AVB at 7's i suggest you do the same with LVG Ade :pac:

thebison

What is price is AVB with Paddy Power?

Think he's worth 10quid!

manual_man

small bit on Lambert too. small chance, but he's a young ambitious manager, two back to back to promotions and a tied 10th finish in first season in Premier League

Luap

thebison wrote: »

What is price is AVB with Paddy Power?

Think he's worth 10quid!

5/2

Luap

There was a 10/1 special in shop in PP to name the managers of Liverpool, Villa and Chelsea for the first PL game of the season.

Did,

Di Matteo
Martinez
Solskjaer

Nuri Sahin

Lasagna Diarra wrote: »

I don't know how anyone can defend AVB, just look at the difference between AVB's Chelsea and Di Matteo's Chelsea, it's like night a day. I really hope they hire AVB so I can bet against Liverpool week in week out next season.

Such an extremely simple way at looking at things without hitting any of the key notes.

1. If you want to reference the league. Look at the points per a game ratio in the league.
2. If you want to reference the Champions League, I'll reference Avram Grant too.

I'll give you the FA Cup, that's it but who's to say Villas Boas wouldn't of won it as well. All Di Matteo has done is revert to type A tactically, hardly revolutionary stuff.

abettingman

I've a tenner and a bit on Ancelotti, PSG's season finishes tomorrow evening, and bar a miracle will finish 2nd under alot of spend. I think an outside bet on Carlo could pay dividends. He has the best CV around in Premierships and FA cup terms in recent years. I think Liverpool would be silly not to ask the question at least. So my 10 quid goes there.

Lasagna Diarra

-Ade- wrote: »

Such an extremely simple way at looking at things without hitting any of the key notes.

1. If you want to reference the league. Look at the points per a game ratio in the league.
2. If you want to reference the Champions League, I'll reference Avram Grant too.

I'll give you the FA Cup, that's it but who's to say Villas Boas wouldn't of won it as well. All Di Matteo has done is revert to type A tactically, hardly revolutionary stuff.

Come on, you can't defend AVB, his tactics clearly didn't work, the team didn't know how to defend properly... and they didn't know how to score goals. He was on the verge of getting Chelsea out of the CL, and also out of the FA cup (1-1 at home vs Birmingham).

I really hope Liverpool hire him though, I miss betting against AVB's Chelsea.

grohlisagod

Manual man's Van Gaal punt is starting to look like a very good bet. He's into 7-1 now. Rumours gathering pace.

DB74

Lasagna Diarra wrote: »

I really hope Liverpool hire him though, I miss betting against AVB's Chelsea.

You don't need AVB to bet against Liverpool successfully

manual_man

grohlisagod wrote: »

Manual man's Van Gaal punt is starting to look like a very good bet. He's into 7-1 now. Rumours gathering pace.

Ye-esss! Seriously? Have a fair wad on him

manual_man

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4334997/Louis-van-Gaal-tells-Liverpool-he-is-desperate-to-get-back-into-management.html

Come on keep the rumour mill rolling

yesno1234

Edit: nevermind not the place.

toxicity234

I hope Rudi Garcia from Lille a interview a least.
He has done a great job in france.
And i just put a 5 Euro on him.

opr

Few little bits that the owners have finally spoken to Rafa.

Wayne Gordon ‏@Gunga__Din @pauledwards1973 he 100% has now. They have been in touch. not saying he will get the job, but FSG have spoken with him in last 24 hrs

Currently 20-1 in places.

Opr

Luap

Maloney_o9 wrote: »

Martinez @ 5/6

Lumping material imo.

Pity I didn't lump.

manual_man

Maloney_o9 wrote: »

Maloney_o9 wrote: »

Martinez @ 5/6

Lumping material imo.

Pity I didn't lump.

He hasn't got it yet

I'd still be surprised if they gave it too him - Fenway are an ambitious group, i just can't see them giving it to someone with no 'big club' experience. If they've offered him something i think it's more akin to an assistant to the main manager

Which i'm hoping is Van Gaal of course

thebison

Martinez @ 6/4 on VC

Threw a cheeky tener on it

De Dannan

Martinez drifting to 10/3
Brendan Rodgers 3/10
both on PP

manual_man

Looks like it's gonna be Rodgers according to BBC. I dont get this fascination with young managers. I'd be surprised if these American owners outlast their Yankee predecessors. :SAD:

Headshot

I must get odds on Brendan Rodgers not lasting the season

DB74

manual_man wrote: »

Looks like it's gonna be Rodgers according to BBC. I dont get this fascination with young managers. I'd be surprised if these American owners outlast their Yankee predecessors. :SAD:

What have Liverpool realistically got to offer a top experienced manager, apart from a job at a club with a great history. 5 teams have finished ahead of Liverpool in the League in each of the last 3 seasons. They are a 2nd tier team at this stage. The likes of van Gall, Rijkaard, Hiddink, Guardiola are not interested in trying to restore clubs to former glories, especially one with no Champions League football to entice good players.

DB74

Headshot wrote: »

I must get odds on Brendan Rodgers not lasting the season

Boyles are 4/6 that he's still manager at the start of the 2013/14 season (according to Twitter)

Don't know if they've priced up the other side of that bet

manual_man

DB74 wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

Looks like it's gonna be Rodgers according to BBC. I dont get this fascination with young managers. I'd be surprised if these American owners outlast their Yankee predecessors. :SAD:

What have Liverpool realistically got to offer a top experienced manager, apart from a job at a club with a great history. 5 teams have finished ahead of Liverpool in the League in each of the last 3 seasons. They are a 2nd tier team at this stage. The likes of van Gall, Rijkaard, Hiddink, Guardiola are not interested in trying to restore clubs to former glories, especially one with no Champions League football to entice good players.

Van Gaal offered his services to Liverpool as manager. Why don't you go and ask him. Maybe he likes a challenge

DB74

manual_man wrote: »

Van Gaal offered his services to Liverpool as manager. Why don't you go and ask him. Maybe he likes a challenge

Well unless he posts here I haven't got much hope of asking him. That's why I'm asking you

DB74

manual_man wrote: »

Van Gaal offered his services to Liverpool as manager.

Have you got a link to this?

manual_man

DB74 wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

Van Gaal offered his services to Liverpool as manager.

Have you got a link to this?

Go find it yourself

DB74

manual_man wrote: »

Go find it yourself

What is your problem?

I asked a simple question regarding what Liverpool have to offer a top experienced manager and you start throwing toys out of the pram and still haven't answered the question either I noticed.

BTW there is no story anywhere that states van Gaal offered his management services to Liverpool. Some rumours about an upstairs role but zero about a management job.

Sadly for their fans, Liverpool are a 2nd-rate club now which is why no big-name manager wants them.

Maybe we can talk about it when you have calmed down