Car hit, other driver drove off

tbh

Hi Guys - apologies if this has been done to death. My wife was parked in Blanch, came back to the car to discover some woman in a jeep had hit our car and drove off. rear wheel arch, rear passenger door and driver door are fairly badly damaged. Luckily we had a witness who waited an hour for my wife to come back and gave her the details, including the reg of the drive off.

Just wondering what happens next? My wife reported it at blanch garda station and the guard gave her her number and told her the insurance company would be looking for it. We want to get this sorted as quickly as possible, but obviously want to wait to see if the cops can find the other driver - anyone have any idea how long that normally takes? will the guards give us her details? what if she denies knowledge of it?

any info appreciated.

Faolchu

dont suppose she checked with the centre security office to see if it was caught on tape as proof for the gardai?

tbh

I rang the centre and told them where and when it happened, and they said they'll take a look and make anything they find available to the guards. Just as I typed that last sentence, Blanch rang me and told me they have it on video and will give it to the guards.

UL_heart_throb

does this count as a hit and run or leaving the scene of an accident?

whomitconcerns

wow good for the person who hung around! I hope you get everything sorted..sorry dont know how long it would take though

tbh

yeah - we're very grateful. If we can claim off the other drivers insurance, it'll save us about a grand between excess and loss of NCB I'd say.

pred racer

Far play to the witness!
Hope the cops treat this seriously, blanch and liffey valley are disasters for this!

ShadowHearth

I would buy witness a pint and a card, which says: " for the best witness in my life".

Please let's us know how it will all end up. For once I want these scumbag hit and run bastards to pay. Every single car I own was a victim of those feckers!

kildare.17hmr

Give all details to your insurance company including the witness contact details and let them look after the rest. Very sound of that person hangin around for an hour

Max Power1

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Give all details to your insurance company including the witness contact details and let them look after the rest. Very sound of that person hangin around for an hour

DO NOT DO THIS.

Pursue the matter yourself. Contact the OTHER PARTY's insurance.

If you request that your insurance does this it will leave an open claim on your policy which will affect your premium on renewal if its not sorted beforehand. Also you cannot move insurers if there is an open claim on your policy.

tbh

Max Power1 wrote: »

DO NOT DO THIS.

Pursue the matter yourself. Contact the OTHER PARTY's insurance.

If you request that your insurance does this it will leave an open claim on your policy which will affect your premium on renewal if its not sorted beforehand. Also you cannot move insurers if there is an open claim on your policy.

thanks - I called the insurance company early on to see what to do, and they have all the details and they said they'd get back to me today. I know that we'll lose our ncb and pay an excess if we claim on ours, so told your man on the phone that obviously I want to go through the other parties...but take your point, will make sure there's no outstanding claim.

tbh

quick update for any interested parties: the reg of the driver who hit us was on my own insurance companies files - they are going to give them a ring and let them know the score, and to see what they say.

ShadowHearth

tbh wrote: »

quick update for any interested parties: the reg of the driver who hit us was on my own insurance companies files - they are going to give them a ring and let them know the score, and to see what they say.

*sharpening his pitchfork

pred racer

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they get that call:D

ProudDUB

Are the Guards doing anything about the driver driving off as he did?

Henry Ford III

Interesting case. I'd almost wager €5 the jeep driver denies everything. Fair play to your witness though.

tbh

tbh wrote: »

quick update for any interested parties: the reg of the driver who hit us was on my own insurance companies files - they are going to give them a ring and let them know the score, and to see what they say.

Person who answered the phone was shocked, defensive and argumentative, and then hung up. Hopefully the guards will have better luck.

ShadowHearth

tbh wrote: »

Person who answered the phone was shocked, defensive and argumentative, and then hung up. Hopefully the guards will have better luck.

What a scum!!!

I guess it will be the hard way now. Court etc? What did insurance plan to do now?

tbh

ShadowHearth wrote: »

What a scum!!!

I guess it will be the hard way now. Court etc? What did insurance plan to do now?

gonna wait to hear from the guards. he rang her to give her the chance to settle herself, but according to him, it's just a case of finding out who she's insured with - if she is - and claiming from them.

dahamsta

Obviously it's not resolved yet, but it's great to see someone like this getting caught for a change.

Obviously you can't reward the person that waited right now for fear of adversely affecting a court case down the line, but make sure you send them a gift when it's all wrapped up.

tbh

dahamsta wrote: »

Obviously it's not resolved yet, but it's great to see someone like this getting caught for a change.

Obviously you can't reward the person that waited right now for fear of adversely affecting a court case down the line, but make sure you send them a gift when it's all wrapped up.

will deffo - it's almost worth this happening just so the other driver gets caught. I'm more and more sure that the other driver isn't insured.

UL_heart_throb

I bet it was the 'witness' who damaged the car and doctored the cctv.

-Corkie-

UL_heart_throb wrote: »

I bet it was the 'witness' who damaged the car and doctored the cctv.

Sweet jesus...

K.Flyer

Similar thing happened to me many years ago. After they drove off a witness left the details of the offending car on my window, plus their own contact details. I went to Garda, as you did, they contacted the witness and got a statement from him, then contacted the person who drove off and informed them that "... It was in their interest to co-operate with the repairs to the car, as leaving the scene of an accident without leaving contact details was a serious offence, and by the way we have a witness"
They paid up pretty quickly!

ShadowHearth

K.Flyer wrote: »

Similar thing happened to me many years ago. After they drove off a witness left the details of the offending car on my window, plus their own contact details. I went to Garda, as you did, they contacted the witness and got a statement from him, then contacted the person who drove off and informed them that "... It was in their interest to co-operate with the repairs to the car, as leaving the scene of an accident without leaving contact details was a serious offence, and by the way we have a witness"
They paid up pretty quickly!

surely she denied it already, so that means she should be prosecuted already for that alone? Evidence there, witness there. i am pretty sure she is diging quite a deep hole for herself.

MugMugs

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I would buy witness a pint and a card, which says: " for the best witness in my life".

Whilst I principally agree with what you're saying, nothing should be given to the witness until it is all settled and finalised.



tbh - Glad you're getting sorted. I hope that the Gardai string the other driver up for this.

Henry Ford III

tbh wrote: »

will deffo - it's almost worth this happening just so the other driver gets caught. I'm more and more sure that the other driver isn't insured.

MIBI claim if that's the case.

TheZ

Based on something similar happening to me before where other driver denied hitting my car in a car park the insurance company should appoint an investigator

Take photos of damage to your car and send them to the insurance company

Ended well in my case and got paid out

Your insurance company may give you option of claiming on your own insurance pending investigation. If you do that you will lose NCB (but it gets restored if claim against other driver is successful) so if you can wait to get it fixed then wait until investigation is complete and (hopefully) other driver's insurance is hit

tbh

So heard from the guard today - she rang the owner of the suspected car, who is coming into the station today at 5pm. fingers crossed we're in the endgame now!

Gary ITR

Sounds like you lucked out there dude, delighted to hear it

Caliden

Good to see updates on this, hopefully you get it sorted.
Looking forward to the final outcome, should be an open and shut case given the evidence.

tbh

tbh wrote: »

So heard from the guard today - she rang the owner of the suspected car, who is coming into the station today at 5pm. fingers crossed we're in the endgame now!

Might have spoken too soon. Other driver reported to the Garda station today at five, denied she hit us. The guard told us she's been given ten days to produce her documentation. She also told me she'd inspected her car and there was evidence of recent damage exactly where we expected it to be. The guard is heading to blanch tomorrow to review the CCTV. I asked her if she thought the other driver was the right person and the guard said she knows the other driver is lying and she expected it to go to court. I asked if she had insurance and the guard said she [other driver] had avoided the question, and we had to wait the ten days. She also said we could just ring the insurance company tomorrow and give them the guards name.

So anybody any clue what happens now? I'm assuming the guard believes that the other driver is the driver responsible, but is the guards opinion enough? Do we have to wait until it goes to court? I really want to get the car fixed and don't see why I should have to claim off my own insurance and lose my NCB. the fecking cheeky bitch!

Voodoomelon

Cheeky bitch is right, unbelievable how far some people are willing to go. But she'll be well f***ed over by the courts if she's found guilty.

MugMugs

Hi tbh.

Wait the ten days and see what happens.

This could get messy though and briefly financially annoying.

If it turns out that she doesn't have insurance then you will need to claim via the MIBI. Your own insurer will do this for you and act as an agent for the MIBI. MIBI can be slow getting the ball rolling though.

Is your vehicle fully driveable and safe ?


If she is insured and she is denying liability then it will go to her Insurer.

If they admit liability (which they can do without her consent) then happy days, they can fix your car and your crowd can close their claim now.

If they don't admit liability and you are COMP then you can claim via your policy for the repairs to your vehicle. You can then wait while your insurer pursues her insurer for the costs involved (subrogation of their outlay) which they will do in your name.

The downside to this is that until such time that your insurer recovers costs, your insurance policy is going to be highly inflated due to an open claim and no NCB. This will all be refunded to you if they get their money back. Also you will be tied to your current insurer until it settles as nobody will take you with an open claim.

If the Gardai are happy with the CCTV (and for the love of god make sure those numb nuts in Blanch keep the disc) then they can take it to their file and the Insurers can potentially access it under the RTA. But that's time consuming.

Mugs

FanadMan

tbh wrote: »

So heard from the guard today - she rang the owner of the suspected car, who is coming into the station today at 5pm. fingers crossed we're in the endgame now!

Could ask the guard if that woman is an boardsie......you might have banned them at sometime and they just getting revenge lol.

Seriously tho, have been watching this and have fingers and toes crossed that it works out for ya. And I'm sure that like the rest of the people here I wish you the best......and if we ever find the witness, lots of beer will be bought for them

Henry Ford III

MugMugs wrote: »

Hi tbh.

Wait the ten days and see what happens.

This could get messy though and briefly financially annoying.

If it turns out that she doesn't have insurance then you will need to claim via the MIBI. Your own insurer will do this for you and act as an agent for the MIBI. MIBI can be slow getting the ball rolling though.

Is your vehicle fully driveable and safe ?


If she is insured and she is denying liability then it will go to her Insurer.

If they admit liability (which they can do without her consent) then happy days, they can fix your car and your crowd can close their claim now.

If they don't admit liability and you are COMP then you can claim via your policy for the repairs to your vehicle. You can then wait while your insurer pursues her insurer for the costs involved (subrogation of their outlay) which they will do in your name.

The downside to this is that until such time that your insurer recovers costs, your insurance policy is going to be highly inflated due to an open claim and no NCB. This will all be refunded to you if they get their money back. Also you will be tied to your current insurer until it settles as nobody will take you with an open claim.

If the Gardai are happy with the CCTV (and for the love of god make sure those numb nuts in Blanch keep the disc) then they can take it to their file and the Insurers can potentially access it under the RTA. But that's time consuming.

Mugs

I was hit in a classic car by an uninsured driver Mugs. Got her reg. as she did a hit and run - MIBI claim etc. I stayed in touch with the claims handling co. weekly, and we had a cheque to cover all costs within about 3 months.

dr.fuzzenstein

Hit her for everything you can, OP, best possible standard of repair, hire car and maybe a little extra for the inconvenience. People like that deserve no mercy whatsoever.

MugMugs

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I was hit in a classic car by an uninsured driver Mugs. Got her reg. as she did a hit and run - MIBI claim etc. I stayed in touch with the claims handling co. weekly, and we had a cheque to cover all costs within about 3 months.

3 Months? I'd hound the living daylights out of them after month 1 !

Damien360

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Hit her for everything you can, OP, best possible standard of repair, hire car and maybe a little extra for the inconvenience. People like that deserve no mercy whatsoever.

I would be of the same opinion but when our car was hit years ago, we were worried that we could end up covering the costs if other driver argued the case. So, we did without a car until repair was ok'd by the insurance company.

Other driver was good enough to accept fault and did not complain when we got the car repaired by a very good repairer. Cost more but when it was sold on, the repair was mentioned by us but you could'nt see it and the garage gave us full price it was worth.

tbh

MugMugs wrote: »

Hi tbh.

Wait the ten days and see what happens.

This could get messy though and briefly financially annoying.

If it turns out that she doesn't have insurance then you will need to claim via the MIBI. Your own insurer will do this for you and act as an agent for the MIBI. MIBI can be slow getting the ball rolling though.

Is your vehicle fully driveable and safe ?
...

thanks Mugs, that's really helpful. Car is fine, it's only cosmetic damage, but it is ugly. Policy runs till December, so hopefully everything will be sorted by then, and there's no issue with trying to move or anything. Insurance company have been really helpful in fairness.

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Hit her for everything you can, OP, best possible standard of repair, hire car and maybe a little extra for the inconvenience. People like that deserve no mercy whatsoever.

I'm not sure how it works, the impression I got was that if she is insured, her insurance company will repair the car so it's not for me to say how much it costs etc. Funny thing is, I reversed into my neighbours car just before christmas - difference being, I let him know and paid in cash for the repairs the very next day! If it's down to be, it's going back to the dealership, I'll get a quote for repair and replacement car while it's in, and she'll get the total. I'll give her five days to hand me the cash, otherwise I'm just going through her insurance.

The guard seemed to think she's not insured, which means I've a e300 excess to handle - not ideal, but could be a lot worse. If they assign liability to her at least I keep my NCB.

Side note - i dropped the witness a text to let her know what was happening and she replied "that lying bitch!"

thanks again lads, I'll keep ye in the loop. Will give the insurance crowd a ring tomorrow and let you know what they say

Seth Brundle

UL_heart_throb wrote: »

does this count as a hit and run or leaving the scene of an accident?

I would have thought so.

tbh wrote: »

I asked her if she thought the other driver was the right person and the guard said she knows the other driver is lying and she expected it to go to court. I asked if she had insurance and the guard said she [other driver] had avoided the question, and we had to wait the ten days. She also said we could just ring the insurance company tomorrow and give them the guards name.

So anybody any clue what happens now? I'm assuming the guard believes that the other driver is the driver responsible, but is the guards opinion enough? Do we have to wait until it goes to court? I really want to get the car fixed and don't see why I should have to claim off my own insurance and lose my NCB. the fecking cheeky bitch!

I can understand you wanting to do something but you have to presume that the garda will not stand over any discussion between the two of you and will wait to review the video. Also, IMO were it to go to court, what the garda believes in this situation wouldn't hold much water.

Lastly, if it turns out that the woman is indeed uninsured, I would first try and go through the MIBI (http://mibi.ie/) rather than through your own insurance.

mumof2

Only catching up on this now!! The horror:(

Best of luck catching her - thank God for the witness:)

Unbelievable what cheek some people have....:eek:

Cuddlesworth

With CCTV and a independent witness if she does have insurance they won't fight it. She might be stupid, but they won't be.

monkeysnapper

i had a accident in a car park years ago which in my opinion wasnt my fault and i tried to fight it, my insurance company said, sorry weve looked at the info and in our opinion it was your fault, end of story, you loose, hopefully if this bitch is insured they will see it like this aswell !!!! oooooooo the anger of it all!!!! nothing worse,

ProudDUB

tbh wrote: »

Might have spoken too soon. Other driver reported to the Garda station today at five, denied she hit us. The guard told us she's been given ten days to produce her documentation.

I don't get the ten days part. If an arrangement was made for her to go into the station today at 5pm, why wasn't she told to bring her documentation in with her? Wouldn't that make sense & save a lot of hassle? Either she has a valid drivers license and proof of insurance, or she doesn't.

Why give her 10 days to produce them? I can find mine in 5 minutes. The delay gives her breathing room to get the tell tale dings on her car taken care of. That could muddy the waters if the case goes to court. It also give the OP 10 days of additional stress & worry. I am new to driving in Ireland. Is giving people 10 days to produce documentation standard?

Agree with everyone else. Throw the bloody book at the beeotch !

galwaytt

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Interesting case. I'd almost wager €5 the jeep driver denies everything. Fair play to your witness though.

tbh wrote: »

Might have spoken too soon. Other driver reported to the Garda station today at five, denied she hit us. !

LOL Henry, you should have made that more than a fiver !

Btw OP, whilst it will take a while, I think you have the bones of a good case for the other party's insurance to stump up for this.

Many moons ago, my car was torpedoe'd by an uninsured driver, in the UK. Very, very annoying.

tbh

so, one more little update for today. Spoke to the insurance guy this morning. He says that the claim can be processed as soon as the guards decided to launch a prosecution (guard last night seemed fairly sure that would happen, even without seeing the CCTV) - we don't have to wait for a conviction. He also said we can sue in the small claims court to get the excess back - I think I will do that, even if I never get the money, it's the principle.

Assessor coming out today to take a look. I doubt I'll hear anything else now before the ten days are up (somehow I think she won't be dropping any docs in before the deadline) - hopefully it'll just be a case of - ten days elapse, no word, guards prosecute, tbh gets paid.

MugMugs

You can also pursue any other uninsured losses like car hire with your excess.

Hope it works out
Mugs

ShadowHearth

Fair play to you man. When I grow up, I want to be just like you!

Keep us posted!

tbh

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Fair play to you man. When I grow up, I want to be just like you!

Keep us posted!

work hard and eat your greens :pac: cheers dude

whomitconcerns

as someone else said..if they want to play this game, dont do them any favours on costs! Good luck on getting sorted and deffo keep us in the loop!

I hope it wasnt the solid gold diamond encrusted side of the car the person hit..that could get expensive for them