triangle tyres

CianRyan

OP, today I was quoted €340 for a full set of Toyo's in Hanover Tyres, I ended up going for a set of part worn Pirellis with a great thread left for €145 all in. Shop around and always look for premium bands, it's worth it.

ongarite

shooter57 wrote: »

18/225/45

You are looking at 400 pounds sterling for a set of 4 of average/good tyre brand Falken 452.

Mar4ix

shooter57 wrote: »

18/225/45

yepp... thats the the expensive size .... descent qulity tire would cost 150 ish and up for corner. if op money tight, consider get cheaper size wheels...

Nissan doctor

Saab Ed wrote: »

And yet its so often over looked and compromised because of price. Always baffles me to see people spending 10/20/30 grand or more on a car and then save 20 or 30 quid a corner by buying crap tyres.

Sure only today, 09 Audi a6 avant in for two tyres, 2.7tdi, leather, nav, automatic tailgate, factory s-line, 18" factory alloys, Worn Pirelli P-zero's removed.........4 sunny's fitted.

Its very tempting to point out to these people how reasonably priced tyres are for a fiesta:rolleyes:

Saab Ed

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s315p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_18%5C_inch_R18_inch_-_245_45_18_245_45_R_18

shooter57

CianRyan wrote: »

OP, today I was quoted €340 for a full set of Toyo's in Hanover Tyres, I ended up going for a set of part worn Pirellis with a great thread left for €145 all in. Shop around and always look for premium bands, it's worth it.

did you get that quote in Tallaght ?

Where To

Nissan doctor wrote: »

IMO if you don't have grip then your suspension, brakes, handling, bonnet badge or whatever else, don't matter a damm.

True that, but is a badly maintained car on premium tyres safer than a well maintained car on cheapo tyres?

Dunno why I'm standing up for them here, I'm a Goodyear fanboy meself:pac:

Indricotherium

This is the usual guff being talked about tyres on this board.

If the motor enthusiasts on this were to be believed 90% of the cars in Ireland would be aquaplaning towards a ditch near you right now.

The truth is, these tyres are 100% acceptable for 99.999% of the situations a law abiding and reasonable driver will find himself in.

Admittedly if you want to feck your car into a corner on the Sally gap in the lashing rain at 160 k's you might start to notice a difference.

Go for the triangles. A grand tyre. Never a days hassle with them.

A little bit loud if I were to criticise them.

Paddy001

Indricotherium wrote: »

This is the usual guff being talked about tyres on this board.

If the motor enthusiasts on this were to be believed 90% of the cars in Ireland would be aquaplaning towards a ditch near you right now.

The truth is, these tyres are 100% acceptable for 99.999% of the situations a law abiding and reasonable driver will find himself in.

Admittedly if you want to feck your car into a corner on the Sally gap in the lashing rain at 160 k's you might start to notice a difference.

Go for the triangles. A grand tyre. Never a days hassle with them.

A little bit loud if I were to criticise them.

I'm an ordinary road user with an ordinary car, been through many different brands of tyre. I found Pirelli to be rubbish and very soft on wear, Firestone acceptable on all terms, but Michelin far exceed any other I've had. I've had many cheaper ones ranging from Kormoran to Strada and they were bad, found Kumho to be good though and reasonably priced. They are certainly acceptable - as in they are black and round but I think you're being a bit extreme, there is a fair difference in them even in normal driving, especially in the wet.

CianRyan

shooter57 wrote: »

did you get that quote in Tallaght ?

Yep, got the part worns in AutoDepo Tyres on the Belgard Road.

focus_mad

OP Triangles are budget budget.. In future try get part worn tyres of a good brand. I picked up two continentals for a decent price off Tyreland.

Nissan doctor

Indricotherium wrote: »

This is the usual guff being talked about tyres on this board.

If the motor enthusiasts on this were to be believed 90% of the cars in Ireland would be aquaplaning towards a ditch near you right now.

The truth is, these tyres are 100% acceptable for 99.999% of the situations a law abiding and reasonable driver will find himself in.

Admittedly if you want to feck your car into a corner on the Sally gap in the lashing rain at 160 k's you might start to notice a difference.

Go for the triangles. A grand tyre. Never a days hassle with them.

A little bit loud if I were to criticise them.

Its never been done to my knowledge, but I would love to see someone compile a report of the tyres brands fitted to any cars involved in 'single vehicle accidents'.....I know what my money would be on and I'd be certain my money would be safe too:rolleyes:


To repeat my opinion on comments like above, if you think they are ok in normal conditions, then you are either very lucky to have avoided situations requiring grip or you simply don't understand the feedback from your car.

shooter57

CianRyan wrote: »

Yep, got the part worns in AutoDepo Tyres on the Belgard Road.

price sounds good for the pirelli's , whereabouts is that on belgard road , near halford's?

CianRyan

shooter57 wrote: »

price sounds good for the pirelli's , whereabouts is that on belgard road , near halford's?

Not too far past it.
If you know where Belgard Market is, there's a slip road into Cookstown Industrial Estate just past it. If you turn up there it's right in the little courtyard to your right, along with Bargain Town and a few others. Just opened there recently.

SpannerMonkey

@OP they really are the most basic Tyre on the market , i remember seeing a review by a British car magazine last year that questioned whether they should be legally sold in the UK they were that bad , said that once it rains the car becomes uncontrollable and quite dangerous , and gave them the lowest rating they had ever given on one of their tests .
with you having a BMW which is rear wheel drive you really don't want to be putting these tyres on the car .
cheap alternatives that are very decent would be Uniroyal , Hankook ,Kumho ,Falken , BF Goodrich ,Cooper even GT radial or federal would be a huge step up from triangle .

or get Part worn premium tyres like michelin, pirelli, goodyear etc

Wheelnut

shooter57 wrote: »

18/225/45

Should that car not be on runflats?

CianRyan

Wheelnut wrote: »

Should that car not be on runflats?

No need, all run flats do is run flat. Otherwise, they're heavy and noisy and there's nothing about the wheels that says they have to use run flats.

challengemaster

Wheelnut wrote: »

Should that car not be on runflats?

A certain type of tyre coming as standard doesn't mean anything else can't be used.

Runflats are more expensive and provide a much harsher ride quality, especially with 18", and more often than not the "benefit" of runflats is never used during their life on a car.

bazz26

I paid €130 a corner for 2 x 225/40/r18 and €190 a corner for 2 x 255/35/r18 - Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas on my 3 Series. They are almost a premium brand tyre and online reviews are very good. There is no way I would put cheap ****e rubber on any car, not to mind a rwd one.

fitzeyboy.

bazz26 wrote: »

I paid €130 a corner for 2 x 225/40/r18 and €190 a corner for 2 x 255/35/r18 - Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas on my 3 Series. They are almost a premium brand tyre and online reviews are very good. There is no way I would put cheap ****e rubber on any car, not to mind a rwd one.

I have the same on mine. the previous tyres were some cheap Chinese crap I Cant even remember the name of. The difference in grip level is astronomical. Unless you like going around roundabouts sideways as soon as it rains put some decent rubber on the car.

Indricotherium

fitzeyboy. wrote: »

bazz26 wrote: »

I paid €130 a corner for 2 x 225/40/r18 and €190 a corner for 2 x 255/35/r18 - Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas on my 3 Series. They are almost a premium brand tyre and online reviews are very good. There is no way I would put cheap ****e rubber on any car, not to mind a rwd one.

I have the same on mine. the previous tyres were some cheap Chinese crap I Cant even remember the name of. The difference in grip level is astronomical. Unless you like going around roundabouts sideways as soon as it rains put some decent rubber on the car.

This is simply not true. These tyres will not cause a car to suddenly start driving like it's on ice.

All you will get from this board with regard to unbranded tyres is two classic un logical and bad arguments.

The first Is the classic "we're all into cars so we must know best and this is what we think"

The other will be an argument from authority, probably some clip from topgear or myth busters or some other such nonsense tv show in which an aged hatchback is sent into a flooded corner at 160 k's.

Neither of which is any way convincing.

There is no empirical test on tyres, as nissan doctor suggests, and I agree with him that there should be, and if there was I might have to change my tune.

But until there is I can only go with what I have observed; the majority of cars I come across have whatever tyre was cheapest to buy on the day on them, and the majority of cars get along fine with them.

George Dalton

I'm not getting into another one of these debates but I will say this; Like Nissan Doctor I have driven thousands of cars, all kinds of cars, all kinds of weather, all kinds of tyres, from brand new to worn out. Based on my opinion (which comes from that experience not from reading online or watching videos) when it comes for me to put my money where my mouth is and buy tyres for my own cars I pretty much only buy tyres from the top 5 or 6 premium brands.

Zubeneschamali

Indricotherium wrote: »

There is no empirical test on tyres, as nissan doctor suggests,

Of course there are empirical tests!

Put Pirellis on, have a test driver attempt an emergency stop from 100 kph in the wet, measure the distance taken to stop.

Put Triangles on, have a test driver attempt an emergency stop from 100 kph in the wet. Look away and cover your ears, call an ambulance, and then try and pull the test car out of the ditch.

[or just google Autobild test]

knifey_spoonie

Ive had had the horrors of Triangles, and trust me for similar money here are better out there. I had 2 Triangles on the rear of a 220hp RWD, which lets face is SFA power wise. I found the car unpredictable, likely to breakaway without warning and not to mention the road noise the resembled a failing wheel bearing.

I took them off and put on some partworn P-Zero Rosso on the rear and Conti's on the front. The car a different beast, it became predictable, the grip became progressive and most importantly the horrible road noise disappeared.

pburns

Indricotherium wrote: »

This is simply not true. These tyres will not cause a car to suddenly start driving like it's on ice.

All you will get from this board with regard to unbranded tyres is two classic un logical and bad arguments.

The first Is the classic "we're all into cars so we must know best and this is what we think"

The other will be an argument from authority, probably some clip from topgear or myth busters or some other such nonsense tv show in which an aged hatchback is sent into a flooded corner at 160 k's.

Neither of which is any way convincing.

There is no empirical test on tyres, as nissan doctor suggests, and I agree with him that there should be, and if there was I might have to change my tune.

But until there is I can only go with what I have observed; the majority of cars I come across have whatever tyre was cheapest to buy on the day on them, and the majority of cars get along fine with them.

When knowledgeable guys on here in the motor business like Nissan Doctor, George Dalton and any number of consumer reports say these tyres are ****e then I'm inclined to believe them. Just because there's no official empirical industry-wide grading system you're not prepared to accept ANY other evidence or advice?

Indricotherium wrote: »

The other will be an argument from authority, probably some clip from topgear or myth busters or some other such nonsense tv show in which an aged hatchback is sent into a flooded corner at 160 k's.

Neither of which is any way convincing.

This is just an idiotic statment. Of course a consumer report or TV show is going to test in extremis. The point is if the tyre has considerably less grip in these conditions it is also going to take longer to stop and let go in an emergency situation at 100km/h or 60km/h.

Neilw

Same story each time one of these ditchfinder threads is started.

There are always going to be closed minded people who can't be educated on the merits and increase in safety provided by better quality, or premium quality tyres. Its a scam to these people.

It was the same story with non believers on the winter tyres thread.

djimi

To me its quite simple: the less you spend, the cheaper quality tire you get. The cheapest tire on the market might meet minimum acceptable standard, but I have enough experience of using various grades of tire and seen enough tests to know that spend a few quid more and you pretty much half your braking distance and greatly improve grip and cornering ability from the "minumum acceptable standard".

Its not even a case of having to spend €200 a corner; I got tires recently and the choice was between Nankang/Sunny for €90 or Kumho/Falken for €115, with the latter being a considerably better tire.

langdang

Triangles on an expensive car are pure Paddy Prestige. All fur coat and no knickers. Get a flippin Suzuki Swift or something if you can't afford to put tyres on a car with big wheels.

Sedate driving + modern driving aids could certainly be masking the worst of cheapo tyres, but they are only "bending" the laws of physics slightly. I've seen cars without ESP/TC/EBD transformed by a set of decent tyres.

skyhighflyer

My main experience with cheap tyres was when my mother bought a year-old C3 with cheap Chinese tyres on the front. After pulling away from a wet roundabout I was surprised to be spinning the tyres in second gear. In a 1.1 C3. It was straight to the tyre centre to fit something better.

kermitpwee

Indricotherium wrote: »

This is simply not true. These tyres will not cause a car to suddenly start driving like it's on ice.

All you will get from this board with regard to unbranded tyres is two classic un logical and bad arguments.

The first Is the classic "we're all into cars so we must know best and this is what we think"

The other will be an argument from authority, probably some clip from topgear or myth busters or some other such nonsense tv show in which an aged hatchback is sent into a flooded corner at 160 k's.

Neither of which is any way convincing.

There is no empirical test on tyres, as nissan doctor suggests, and I agree with him that there should be, and if there was I might have to change my tune.

But until there is I can only go with what I have observed; the majority of cars I come across have whatever tyre was cheapest to buy on the day on them, and the majority of cars get along fine with them.

One flaw in your thinking, the majority of cars are FWD. RWD demand a totally different tyre as anyone who has driven jeeps and premium, sports cars know. You will end up in a ditch.