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Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!
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I will be amazed if he does not end up in Italy anyway, he is too slow for the Prem imo, I guess the injuries he has had might have made a potential transfer cost less which maybe would bring Arsenal into it, not sure by how much though cause he still has third party ownership attached too which could get messy etc
The more I'm thinking about it the less it makes sense for Arsenal to move for him
He just would not suit them at all I think. If they are gonna go Brazilian I could see Oscar being a nice fit for them funnily enough 0 -
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Their president said they offered him €160k per month, take it or leave it. He rejected it because he wanted twice that which would be €320k per month or €80k per week.
Currently he is on something like $90k per month plus whatever he makes from his sponsorships. Either way he isn't struggling!
Maybe the figures I saw were in dollars and I didnt notice.
Nope not struggling at all, but I did hear someone saying he is one of the worst paid players at the club oddly enough Dont know if thats true
If it hadn't been for a couple of injuries maybe he would be a superstar by now, I don't think he is suited to England at all though, a formation like Milans a 4312 would be perfect for him imo, removes pretty much all defensive responsibilty from him etc
If he comes to England he will struggle imo because he lacks the physical presence or the quickness required, if he had either it would be something 0 -
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I actually think he'd be grand in England, certain players don't need to be quick or strong, their positional sense and reading of the game make up for it.
Like, you'd hardly call Scholes fast or strong but everything else he does makes up for it.
Scholes is quite strong in fairness to him, re Ganso, I am a huge fan of his, but he has been on the wane the past few months imho, due in no small part to lack of fitness of course after the nightmare 2011, his decision making has been poor at times, more so then previously and people were starting to question how much longer he could be indulged in that regard as he has absolutely no interest in defending whatsoever. This is another area where he and Scholes are different.
Scholes has always did his job attacking and defending, Ganso would not be known for his defensive work. He does his best work playing just behind the strikers, not fancy step overs, just sexy through balls for him to be effective he must be accomodated I think, would be no use putting him on the left or right, dropping him back into midfield proper. He is a number 10 pure and simple.
Can Arsenal afford a "luxury" player like him? I am not sure. He would probably have a hard time from the media due to his relaxed manner also, described as passionless by some journos, Berba gets stick non stop, I think Ganso would receive the same treatment.
In the right enviroment, in the right team, he is a joy to watch, things he can do with a ball are brilliant, and as I said, I think Milan is a great fit for him, Arsenal not so much, my opinion of course, I could be wide of the mark.
Just to add, so as there is no confusion, of course there are players who can flourish despite not having strength or pace, I am only referring to this player specifically 0 -
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We've done alright buying straight from Brazil in the past; Sylvinho, Edu and Gilberto being 3 off the top of my head that were successful in making the transition from Brazil to England.
I take on board what you're saying about Ganso though kyrogen, all I know of him is from playing as Brazil/Santos in Fifa 12. And he's pretty sexy in that! :pac:
My concern is not so much a Brazilian player transitioning from Brazil to England (I think Oscar would transition well for example) its more down to the team and style of play in the English game I guess.
Again, it is simply my opinion and if he was to move to Arsenal he could be fantastic
Coincidentally, I have done a bit of digging around trying to figure how much he would cost, and it seems Santos were offered the chance to buy back 10% of his economic rights for 2million, they turned it down, you could take that as they value him at less then 20millionThe recent news that Santos were offered the opportunity to purchase an extra 10% of Ganso's economic rights (welcome to the third-party ownership system, kids) was also significant. For only 5m real (around £2m), the seaside club could have secured majority ownership of one of their major assets. Yet they turned the offer down. Conclusion? The club don't value Ganso at £20m (right, maths fans?!). Perhaps this is unsurprising: after all, the rumoured interest from Europe's big boys has cooled significantly in recent months
That was in The Guardian.0
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