licence

anthonyos

just filling out fac1 applying for shotgun is it a Firearm Certificate Restricted Firearm Certificate
Limited Firearm Certificate which one do a tick i plan on shooting game on land that is not my permissions do i hand in all original documents ie permission letters and training certs or photocopies ... anyone know what sort of waiting time in the blanchardstown area and what the garda in charge in the area is like to deal with

Sean Mullen

its a firearm cert. Send in the original copies because in some areas they can be picky and say they arent real. But keep a copy of all documents you send in for yourself. In my area it takes 3 weeks for the license to come through.

Cass

Which shotgun.

1. Over/Under
2. Single barrel
3. Side by side
4. Semi auto with no more than 3 shots
5. Semi auto with more the 3 shot capacity

Numbers 1-4 are unrestricted, full license. Number 5 is a full license, but a restricted shotgun.

When applying hand in all letters of permissions, or club membership details. Give in cert for competency course, training courses, etc that you have completed. IOW leave nothing out so they do not have to return the application for more details.

As for waiting time. In law they have up to 3 months to make a decision. Reality is it can be done in between 3 weeks to 3 months, and possibly longer.

anthonyos

its a 12 bore o and under ...4.2 - Reason why this Type of Firearm is required.
This firearm will be used for: (Tick √ appropriate box(es)) (M)
Hunting Target shooting at Authorised Range Other (Specify, e.g. Clay Pigeon, Vermin Control, etc)
Please explain, on a Separate Sheet, why this specific type of firearm is required????. what about the last part of this section ????how much detail

Cass

You will be hunting so tick the "Hunting" box, and on a seperate piece of paper a line or so to explain. Such as;

I am applying for this shotgun for the purpose of vermin control, and game hunting on the lands nominated inmy permissionletters that are attached to this application.

You can word it your own way, but thats all it needs. No long story or novel. Short, and sweet, and more importantly to the point.

4200fps

Short and to the point is the only way. Also photocopy all your permissions as you won't be getting them back. Just in case you meet someone like a guard and asks what you are doing etc etc you can show the letter

anthonyos

what a the gards like to deal with in the dublin area...i have permission for 130 acres is that enough??and the acreage isnt wrote on the permission neither is the phone numbers will i need them

Cass

I used to live in Dublin and never had a bother. As for the acreage, it's not really needed, but make sure they are over at least two permissions. Will go down better. If you know the two permisions are 130 acres then you can estimate the amount per permission. So put one down as 60, and the other as 70 acres.

4200fps

No need but you can write it down it may help if your afraid they might be awkward. Make sure permissions are dated and signed and have contact number. I think you've everything now

anthonyos

the permissions are uncles of mine from same area with same surnames nobody shoots on the land so hopefully things work out with the licence.can the referees be a retired garda

Cass

Best avoid Gardai whether active or retired. The rules state specifically no Gardai so avoid it.

Best bets are members of gun club, friends with guns, friends without guns, etc. Basically anyone that can attest to your character. A firearms owner would be nice, but not necessary.

4200fps

anthonyos wrote: »

the permissions are uncles of mine from same area with same surnames nobody shoots on the land so hopefully things work out with the licence.can the referees be a retired garda

Any referee that doesn't have a criminal record be best

Farmlife

anthonyos wrote: »

anyone know what sort of waiting time in the blanchardstown area and what the garda in charge in the area is like to deal with

I'm on my 3rd licence application in this district, the firearms officer (FO) that has been there the last while was a gent to deal with. He is now off on sick leave and the girl taking over seems to be as quick and on the ball, and nice to deal with.

Now to the Super.... the last super was ok'ish he's got promoted, and i'm gonna guess it wasn't to the rapid response unit But i'll let you know about the new Super when the 3rd license comes through

anthonyos

i got given the name of the fo is robbie thornton .what is the process like as im a bag of nerves???im going to go down before work some morning when it is nt busy

Farmlife

anthonyos wrote: »

i got given the name of the fo is robbie thornton .what is the process like as im a bag of nerves???im going to go down before work some morning when it is nt busy

Robbie is the one that's out sick, but if you ring the warrants office there looking after the applications. So far on my pending one it seems to be on track to the Super

anthonyos

what would be the expected waiting time would you think

Farmlife

1st 3 months and 2 weeks
2nd 4/5 weeks
3rd is in about 2 weeks now, so i'm not watching the postman yet

Once your permissions/club, secure storage and lack of criminal record is in place, there shouldn't be any hassle

ssl

anthonyos wrote: »

i got given the name of the fo is robbie thornton .what is the process like as im a bag of nerves???im going to go down before work some morning when it is nt busy

Email/ring and make an appointment to meet the FO. The FO mightn't be there when you drop in. All the emails for garda stations where theres a super are similer, so the one for blanchardstown would be blanchardstown_ds@garda.ie for attn of the firearms officer


It's just a chat an to go over the fca1 to see its filled out correctly. Reason for specifically having that shotgun would be that you intend be shooting birds in the air (therefore an air rifle won't suffice).
Relax, you'll do grand.

anthonyos

can the garda on the front desk not sign it off

Witcher

anthonyos wrote: »

can the garda on the front desk not sign it off

You don't need to see the FO, it's just helpful if you have any questions etc. In my case, I just handed it in to the Garda at the desk and they left it for the FO to deal with.

anthonyos

how long did your licence take

Witcher

anthonyos wrote: »

how long did your licence take

I'm not in Dublin but one took 10 days and another 12, but that's exceptional really, the majority will take longer than that, everything depends on your super.

anthonyos

a mate of mine has 1 permission for 52 acres he just applied for it about 3 weeks ago is one permission of 52 acres enough???

German pointer

anthonyos wrote: »

a mate of mine has 1 permission for 52 acres he just applied for it about 3 weeks ago is one permission of 52 acres enough???

I would not think so. A young lad near me just got his application sent back with a ( we want more land on the permission) he had about 55 acres. They usually look for at least 100 or more

anthonyos

applied for the licence on fri rang the station on sat spoke to the fo she said she will be out on wedseday to inspect the safe ...do they usually come out this quick i was thinking it be at least a month

Cass

Depends on how busy they are. If there are not a lot of applications they may visit immediately.

On the bright side could be an indicator of a quick license if everything is in place.

German pointer

anthonyos wrote: »

applied for the licence on fri rang the station on sat spoke to the fo she said she will be out on wedseday to inspect the safe ...do they usually come out this quick i was thinking it be at least a month

I could be this quick, and it could have taken longer. You are lucky is it sooner rather than later. At least you know it is being processed.
It took me 2 weeks to get a licence for a .270 and I have an application in for a .22lr in for over a month and no word yet. Not even sure if the FO has got it.

anthonyos

i dont have a crim record but was in trouble a few times for the years last time was 4 years ago will this have much of an affect on my app

Cass

Did you declare any convictions/arrests? Or did you discuss such issues with the FO prior to dropping off the application?

If so then you should be fine, and the application will be processed. Whether successful or not is up to the Super.

One thing i can tell you, from hearing the same from others, is if you withheld any information or lied then you might have a problem. I've said it before, even if you think it might go against you, you are better off disclosing everything. Better they hear it from you than find out for themselves. It'll make it look as though you are trying to hide things.

German pointer

anthonyos wrote: »

i dont have a crim record but was in trouble a few times for the years last time was 4 years ago will this have much of an affect on my app

Maybe not, but if convicted of an offence, the sentence must be finished 5 years. not the offence but the sentence. It really depends how bad the trouble was. Don't tell us.

anthonyos

i answered the section that deals with convictions with all nos which is honest as far as im aware
Have you ever been the subject of an order issued by a court in a case involving the use, attempted use or threatened use of force against
another person? (M) in answered no to this what is an order exactly do they mean

are you serious

any safety orders/barring orders something like that

Cass

Thats the second question. The first is;

Have you ever been found guilty of, or do you have charges pending for, any offence in Ireland or abroad?

If you answered no, and have been found guilty in the past then technically you provided false info.

Also, as said above, what you believe to relevant, and what An Gardai believe are two seperate things. Not going to "scare" you with what if's, as it's not my place, and i'm not the one making the decision. It could go against you or it might not even be an issue. If the application is gone away then it doesn't really matter now.

anthonyos

no nothong like that i paid two charity donations and things were left at that these things are well behind and dont ever intend on getting in trouble again...so it looks like a answered that one correctly

anthonyos

Have you ever been found guilty of, or do you have charges pending for, any offence in Ireland or abroad? i answered no to this one as well it should of been a yes as i have had 3 guilty pleas the last one was about 7 or 8 years ago ..i thought is was asking if a had any criminal convictions in which i dont

Cass

All you can do is wait. I wouldn't sweat it.

Cass

I removed that last post lad for your own sake. Nothing wrong with it, but it's your private business and neither i, nor anyone else reading this need know what you done as we are not here to judge you. Simply to offer advice.

You know best, based on the advice above, and what you have done in the past how it may or may not affect your application. You have no need to "explain" yourself.

:cool:

are you serious

if the charges were not struck out or dismissed then you have a conviction.

ezridax is right, I wouldnt have posted all that info about your last charge, but having read it I would imagine that was not struck out?

anthonyos

i pleaded guilty got 250 fine wrote sorry letters and did not get conviction a as long as the fine was paid....long time ago i try to forget about it over 7 years ago it happened but i did plead guilty so i should of answered yes

are you serious

sorry just reading back up again, you should have answered yes to the "orders" question, I take it you were ordered to keep the peace, or bound to keep the peace for a year or so after you put in the guilty plea..

anthonyos

are you serious wrote: »

sorry just reading back up again, you should have answered yes to the "orders" question, I take it you were ordered to keep the peace, or bound to keep the peace for a year or so after you put in the guilty plea..

as far as i can remember no i wasn't it was a straight guilty plea the guard was very helpful i paid a fine and that was that..im sure they will do there own back ground checks and will prob call the fo and let her know what you think????i presume the fact it has been along time ago will go in my favor with bit of luck

Cass

Without trying to stop any further discussion i think we can draw a line under the Q&A section of this thread.

As said above you have all the answers that can be given, and i really see no need for more questions about your private life. So without being a dick if you have all the answers you need to specific questions i would leave it at that and just wait to see how the application goes.

are you serious

i'll pm you