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How British are You?

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    #332
    LordSutch
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    spitfireIRL wrote: »
    yup same, born in London to Irish parents. wouldn't consider myself English either

    Interesting, this of course opens up a whole other argumant re where you are born & nationality, take children born in here in Ireland of Polish parentage, are they Polish or Irish? Going by your logic they are Polish (not Irish), although I suspect the reality is much more complicated than that, which may depend on things like how many years you spent there, your sense of belonging & identity, cultural leanings etc.


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    #333
    Nodin
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Interesting, this of course opens up a whole other argumant re where you are born & nationality, take children born in here in Ireland of Polish parentage, are they Polish or Irish? Going by your logic they are Polish (not Irish), although I suspect the reality is much more complicated than that, which may depend on things like how many years you spent there, your sense of belonging & identity, cultural leanings etc.

    He's speaking for himself, as he's entitled to do.


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    #334
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Interesting, this of course opens up a whole other argumant re where you are born & nationality, take children born in here in Ireland of Polish parentage, are they Polish or Irish? Going by your logic they are Polish (not Irish), although I suspect the reality is much more complicated than that, which may depend on things like how many years you spent there, your sense of belonging & identity, cultural leanings etc.

    I asked someone born in England, to Irish parents did he feel more English or Irish. he said he considers himself a Londoner.


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    #335
    LordSutch
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    Nodin wrote: »
    He's speaking for himself, as he's entitled to do.

    Well spotted, but as I said in Post#336 "Interesting, this of course opens up a whole other argumant re where you are born & nationality" . . . .


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    #336
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    0% sasnach


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    #337
    Cavehill Red
    Registered Users Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Nodin wrote: »
    Are you the thread police?
    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well spotted, but as I said in Post#336 "Interesting, this of course opens up a whole other argumant re where you are born & nationality" . . . .

    "Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse": said, I believe, by a Dublin-born Englishman.


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    #338
    who the fug
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    Cavehill Red wrote: »
    "Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse": said, I believe, by a Dublin-born Englishman.

    more like said by a kerryman about a meath born jackeen, what had to emigrate to get on


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    #339
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Cavehill Red wrote: »
    "Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse": said, I believe, by a Dublin-born Englishman.

    Daniel O'Connell was born in Kerry wasn't he?


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    #340
    Wibbs
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    Cavehill Red wrote: »
    "Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse": said, I believe, by a Dublin-born Englishman.
    Apparently he never actually said that(If it's Wellington we're speaking of).

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #341
    paddyandy
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    What is exactly British or Irish ??????


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    #342
    Madam
    Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    Dudess wrote: »
    Music, TV, film, literature, theatre, sense of humour, journalism, Viz.


    Are those really any different from Ireland?


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    #343
    Cavehill Red
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Apparently he never actually said that(If it's Wellington we're speaking of).

    I'm rather gratified to hear that, if it's the case. It always irked me that Dublin boasts a large monument to a man notorious for disowning the place of his own birth in such a derogatory fashion. This fact should be more widely publicised.


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    #344
    Dub Ste
    Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭Dub Ste


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Born in England and not British, so I guess that you're English then, or maybe Irish?

    Not sure,ask Phil Lynott,Shane McGowan,Paul McGrath,Sean Moncrieff maybe??


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    #345
    Wibbs
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    Cavehill Red wrote: »
    I'm rather gratified to hear that, if it's the case. It always irked me that Dublin boasts a large monument to a man notorious for disowning the place of his own birth in such a derogatory fashion. This fact should be more widely publicised.
    I agree. In fact it was Daniel O'Connell who said it of Wellingtons Irish birth. Wellington never made such a comparison. Wellington for his part suffered a lot of public outcry over his resolute support for Catholic emancipation, with his detractors screaming about his support for "popery". He was no republican, he saw himself as British(as did many Irish men and women at the time and not just Protestant), but he was no Cromwell either.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #346
    Cavehill Red
    Registered Users Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I agree. In fact it was Daniel O'Connell who said it of Wellingtons Irish birth. Wellington never made such a comparison. Wellington for his part suffered a lot of public outcry over his resolute support for Catholic emancipation, with his detractors screaming about his support for "popery". He was no republican, he saw himself as British(as did many Irish men and women at the time and not just Protestant), but he was no Cromwell either.

    The version I think I heard was that it had been said by Wellington in response to barracking from the opposition in parliament over his place of birth.
    Interesting that it was actually O'Connell who said it of him.


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    #347
    Yeah Yeah Yeah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 405 ✭✭Yeah Yeah Yeah


    Well we're not refusing the big wads of British cash to bail out our banks are we?


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    #348
    mike65
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    A bunch of foreigners going on about London

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0MCHqTxOiU


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    #349
    Yomino66
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Yomino66


    No


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    #350
    Galwayguy35
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    paddyandy wrote: »
    What is exactly British or Irish ??????

    Huh? Well British means you are born in the UK mainland or if you are unionist in NI.


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    #351
    RiseToTheTop
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    My great grandfather came from Scotland.


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