tour de france 2012 MOD WARNING POST 99

dastardly00

WilcoYHF wrote: »

Lads, I'm not too sharp on who has a chance in the TdF as my interest in it has only started in the last few yrs but has Peter Sagan not got a chance of a top 10? His odds are very high.

I think it's a straight fight out between Wiggins and Evans.

In relation to Sagan, he has had a phenomenal year so far. He will be fighting against Cav for the green jersey. He should be particularly prominent during the first few stages which have a lumpy finish. He's also not bad at short TT as the Tour due Suisse showed. He'll lose bucket loads in the Alps and Pyrenees though.

crumliniano

jimm wrote: »

Well now they've none left, as I picked up the last one this afternoon.

Thanks elduggo.

They still had 5 of them in Easons in Ashleaf Shopping Centre in Crumlin yesterday.

crumliniano

Esroh wrote: »

Were S Roche and Telekom boys not before race radio. Nowadays some guy in team car tells you all or its programmed into your garmin;)

Fair point

mcgratheoin

Bradley Wiggins wrote:

It was the first time that I’d seen them all back-to-back.

In fairness to him, he does say it's the first time "back to back". I'd imagine that they've analysed the stages where the race will be won and lost already. Similarly Cavendish wouldn't bother doing any serious work on the finishes to mountain stages - I doubt that it's the first time he's seen the stages themselves, just the first time he's seen them laid out in day by day order.

happytramp

mcgratheoin wrote: »

In fairness to him, he does say it's the first time "back to back". I'd imagine that they've analysed the stages where the race will be won and lost already. Similarly Cavendish wouldn't bother doing any serious work on the finishes to mountain stages - I doubt that it's the first time he's seen the stages themselves, just the first time he's seen them laid out in day by day order.

Hmm, you might be right but from what I've read he seems to put an exceptional amount of faith in the guys who work with him.

Full quote

"We’ve looked at a couple of the Tour stages," he said. "I’ve ridden the time trials and looked at a couple of the climbs too. Funnily enough, my son wanted a magazine on the flight over here and he decided to buy the official Tour Guide so I had a look at some of the stages in there. It was the first time that I’d seen them all back-to-back.

"It’s my way of not looking too far ahead. I’ve recce’d some of the key climbs but I couldn’t tell you what stages they were. I try to take things day by day and it’s a little bit like a jigsaw that fits together gradually, piece by piece. My only priority at this stage is getting ready for Liege and that prologue and starting with a bang.

"I haven't had much input into the squad we take. We have a selection panel who are in charge of picking the team and they’re looking constantly at everyone’s data – who’s doing what, how they’re performing, where they’re at. I have 100% faith in that selection panel to pick the right team and put the right people around us.

buffalo

Dan Martin interview: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12233/Dan-Martin-Interview-Irishman-ambitious-prior-to-first-Tour-de-France.aspx

dastardly00

With Cav stating that he is unlikely to put 100% effort into winning the green jersey, who's going to be the top sprinter? Sagan is making his TdF debut but he is the man on form.

Also, this should help Wiggins as the Sky train won't be leading out Cav for the sprints.

Morrisseeee

Test your knowledge/memory: how many will you get right ?!

Fill in the blanks, ie. blanks are spoilers that contain the answers.

Multiple winners:
7: Lance Armstrong (USA) – 1999-2005
5:

Jacques Anquetil (Fra)

– 1957, 1961-64
5: Eddy Merckx (Bel) – 1969-72, 1974
5: Bernard Hinault (Fra) – 1978-79, 1981-82, 1985
5: Miguel Indurain (Spa) – 1991-95

Victories by nation:
France: 36
Belgium: 18
Spain: 13
USA: 10
Italy: 9
Luxembourg: 5
Holland and Switzerland: 2
Ireland, Denmark, Germany,

Australia

: 1

Yellow jersey wearers by nation:
France: 82
Belgium: 53
Italy: 25
Holland: 17
Germany: 12
Spain: 12
Switzerland: 10

Luxembourg

: 7
Denmark: 6
USA and Australia: 5
Great Britain: 4
Ireland: 3
Canada: 2
Austria, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Estonia, Colombia, Norway and Ukraine: 1

Most days in the yellow jersey:
Eddy Merckx (Bel): 111
Lance Armstrong (USA): 83
Bernard Hinault (Fra): 79

Miguel Indurain

(Spa): 60
Jacques Anquetil (Fra): 52

Polka-dot jersey winners by nation:
France: 18
Spain: 15
Italy: 13
Belgium: 11

Colombia

: 4


Most white jersey victories:
3: Andy Schleck (Lux) – 2008-2010
3:

Jan Ullrich (Ger)

– 1996-98
2: Marco Pantani (Ita) – 1994-95

Most stage victories:
34: Eddy Merckx (Bel)
28:

Bernard Hinault (Fra)

25: Andre Leducq (Fra)
22: Andre Darrigade (Fra)
22: Lance Armstrong (USA)
20: Nicolas Frantz (Lux)
20: Mark Cavendish (GBr)

Most time trial victories:
20: Bernard Hinault (Fra)
16: Eddy Merckx (Bel)
11: Jacques Anquetil (Fra)
11:

Lance Armstrong (USA)

Most Tour starts:
16: Joop Zoetemelk (Hol)
16:

George Hincapie (USA)

Crippens1

L'Equipe have made their Tour Top 20 list and predict Wiggins to win with Evans second (see below). They have Nicolas Roche at 20th and their assessment was:
"Vincent Lavenu is expecting a lot from Jean-Christophe Péraud (9th last year) but his preparation based on mountain biking (in order to get selected for the Olympics) should weigh against him. On the other hand, Nicolas Roche, the son of Stephen Roche, is coming from an interesting Tour of Switzerland and has achieved 3 top-30s from 3 Tours. Will he be able to hold out over 100km of time-trials, where he is often average? "
1. Bradley WIGGINS (GBR/Sky) Meilleur classement : 4e en 2009
2. Cadel EVANS (AUS/BMC) Meilleur classement : vainqueur en 2011
3. Vincenzo NIBALI (ITA/Liquigas) Meilleur classement : 7e en 2009
4. Jürgen VAN DEN BROECK (BEL/Lotto-Belisol) Meilleur classement : 4e en 2010
5. Fränk SCHLECK (LUX/RadioShack Nissan) Meilleur classement : 3e en 2011
6. Robert GESINK (HOL/Rabobank) Meilleur classement : 5e en 2010
7. Levi LEIPHEIMER (USA/Omega Pharma-Quick Step)
8. Samuel SANCHEZ (ESP/Eukaltel) Meilleur classement : 3e en 2010
9. Jérôme COPPEL (FRA/Saur-Sojasun) Meilleur classement : 13e en 2011
10. Ryder HESJEDAL (CAN/Garmin) Meilleur classement : 6e en 2010
11. Jenez BRAJKOVIC (SLO/Astana)
12. Alejandro VALVERDE (ESP/Movistar) Meilleur classement : 6e en 2007
13. Tony MARTIN (ALL/Omega Pharma-Quick Step) Meilleur classement : 36e en 2009
14. Christopher FROOME (ANG/Sky) Meilleur classement : 84e en 2008
15. Pierre ROLLAND (FRA/Europcar) Meilleur classement : 10e en 2011
16. Tom DANIELSON (USA/Garmin) Meilleur classement : 8e en 2011
17. Tejay VAN GARDEREN (USA/BMC) Meilleur classement : 82e en 2011
18. Maxime MONFORT (BEL/RadioShack Nissan) Meilleur classement : 23e en 2008
19. Sylvain CHAVANEL (FRA/Omega Pharma-Quick Step) Meilleur classement : 19e en 2009
20. Nicolas ROCHE (AG2R-La Mondiale) Meilleur classement : 15e en 2010

dastardly00

Crippens1 wrote: »

L'Equipe have made their Tour Top 20 list and predict Wiggins to win with Evans second (see below). They have Nicolas Roche at 20th and their assessment was:
"Vincent Lavenu is expecting a lot from Jean-Christophe Péraud (9th last year) but his preparation based on mountain biking (in order to get selected for the Olympics) should weigh against him. On the other hand, Nicolas Roche, the son of Stephen Roche, is coming from an interesting Tour of Switzerland and has achieved 3 top-30s from 3 Tours. Will he be able to hold out over 100km of time-trials, where he is often average? "

Pretty bang on assessment about Nico imo.

manafana

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5vRi1j1m7swTjFmUkwwTjF5TFk

my tour preview, enjoy betting thoughts at the end plenty suggested bets for people to choose from with a point rating.

exciting with it being just a day away.

buffalo

Thought it might be an April fool: http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/martin-pens-tour-de-france-diary-deal-with-times-roche-remains-at-indo/

Two Irish riders in the Tour, two columns, two national papers... IT'S ON!

dastardly00

Nostalgia alert!

Anybody remember Channel 4's theme music back in the day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inxg017BAi4

jinkypolly

manafana wrote: »

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5vRi1j1m7swTjFmUkwwTjF5TFk

my tour preview, enjoy betting thoughts at the end plenty suggested bets for people to choose from with a point rating.

exciting with it being just a day away.

Nice one manafana.

Guybrush T

buffalo wrote: »

Thought it might be an April fool: http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/martin-pens-tour-de-france-diary-deal-with-times-roche-remains-at-indo/

Two Irish riders in the Tour, two columns, two national papers... IT'S ON!

Doesn't say if he's writing it all himself though.

griffin100

dastardly00 wrote: »

Nostalgia alert!

Anybody remember Channel 4's theme music back in the day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inxg017BAi4

If you're really feeling nostalgic ESPN Classic which is free on Sky (429) and NTL I think is showing old stages of the TdF every evening at the minute. watched Pantanni win on Ventoux in 2000 a couple of night ago.

ednwireland

ITV4 schedule

WATCH HIGHLIGHTS ON ITV4 AT 7PM EVERY EVENING

Date


Stage


ITV4 and ITV4 HD live (BST)

Saturday 30th June


Prologue: Liege > Liege


1400-1700

Sunday 1st July


Stage 1: Liege > Seraing


1400-1630

Monday 2nd July


Stage 2: Vise > Tournai


1400-1630

Tuesday 3rd July


Stage 3: Orchies > Boulogne-sur-Mer


1400-1630

Wednesday 4th July


Stage 4: Abbeville > Rouen


1400-1700

Thursday 5th July


Stage 5: Rouen > Saint-Quentin


1400-1630

Friday 6th July


Stage 6: Epernay > Metz


1400-1630

Saturday 7th July


Stage 7: Tomblaine > La Planche des Belles Filles


1400-1630

Sunday 8th July


Stage 8: Belfort > Porrentruy


1200-1630

Monday 9th July


Stage 9: Arc-et-Senans > Besancon


1400-1700

Tuesday 10th July


REST DAY




Wednesday 11th July


Stage 10: Macon > Bellegarde-sur-Valserine


1400-1630

Thursday 12th July


Stage 11: Albertville > La Toussuire-Les Sybelles


1200-1700

Friday 13th July


Stage 12: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne > Annonay Davezieux


1200-1600

Saturday 14th July


Stage 13: Saint-Paul-Trois-Chateaux > Le Cap d'Agde


1400-1630

Sunday 15th July


Stage 14: Limoux > Foix


1400-1630

Monday 16th July


Stage 15: Samatan > Pau


1400-1700

Tuesday 17th July


REST DAY




Wednesday 18th July


Stage 16: Pau > Bagneres-de-Luchon


1200-1630

Thursday 19th July


Stage 17: Bagneres-de-Luchon > Peyragudes


1200-1630

Friday 20th July


Stage 18: Blagnac > Brive-la-Gaillarde


1300-1600
Saturday 21st July


Stage 19: Bonneval > Chartres


1400-1700

Sunday 22nd July


Stage 20: Rambouillet > Paris Champs-Elysees


1400-1700

dastardly00

ednwireland wrote: »

ITV4 schedule ..............

do they have schedule times listed for the million or so ad breaks that they will have during each programme :pac:

ednwireland

dastardly00 wrote: »

do they have schedule times listed for the million or so ad breaks that they will have during each programme :pac:

a thanks would have sufficed

tg4 doesnt seem to have it on the schedule anywhere

El Tarangu

I'm going to Liege tomorrow - just decided this evening, and as I haven't been following the racing that closely this year, reading this thread has got me super-excited!

le petit braquet

ednwireland wrote: »

tg4 doesnt seem to have it on the schedule anywhere

They are running the highlights package every night and its also repeated each morning. The live coverage only kicks in once their Wimbledon Beo is finished from Monday July 9th onwards, but there is live TDF coverage on Sunday 1st July as well. I think Wimbledon takes a break on that Sunday barring weather disruptions

elduggo

El Tarangu wrote: »

I'm going to Liege tomorrow - just decided this evening, and as I haven't been following the racing that closely this year, reading this thread has got me super-excited!

good on ya. Same here. Bring it on!

(they're saying rain, which will make the part of the prologue that goes over cobbles mighty interesting!)

Rovi

The official presentation of the teams is on Eurosport right now, to be followed at 10 by an interview with Bradley Wiggins.

smurphy29

My UPC guide is suggesting the cycling coverage on ITV4 is 'not being shown in the Republic of Ireland'. Anyone else experiencing this disastrous malaise?

ednwireland

smurphy29 wrote: »

My UPC guide is suggesting the cycling coverage on ITV4 is 'not being shown in the Republic of Ireland'. Anyone else experiencing this disastrous malaise?

pull out viewing card , reboot, voila english telly

oops sorry missed the upc bit

le petit braquet

smurphy29 wrote: »

My UPC guide is suggesting the cycling coverage on ITV4 is 'not being shown in the Republic of Ireland'. Anyone else experiencing this disastrous malaise?

Happens quite a lot with sport on ITV4 with UPC. Its presumably to do with broadcasting rights in Ireland and I've seen that notice for Rugby, Tennis and Motorsport. Looks like you need a refresher course sa teanga oifigiúl:D

If you have a SKY box this can be circumvented but not AFAIK with UPC

dastardly00

smurphy29 wrote: »

My UPC guide is suggesting the cycling coverage on ITV4 is 'not being shown in the Republic of Ireland'. Anyone else experiencing this disastrous malaise?

Yeah it always happens with any sport on ITV3/ITV4 on UPC I'm afraid.

Your options are, as already mentioned, TG4, or subscribe to the Eurosport Player for July. I think it's around €5. It's well worth it imo. You can then watch it on your laptop or connect your laptop to a TV if you have the proper cable. Eurosport Player streams Eurosport HD too!

If you know someone who has Sky and the sports package, then you could ask them if you could login into their Sky Go account and you can watch Eurosport live.

Briando

le petit braquet wrote: »

If you have a SKY box this can be circumvented but not AFAIK with UPC

Damn.. so what options do us UPC smucks have to watch Le Tour?

le petit braquet

dastardly00 wrote: »

Yeah it always happens with any sport on ITV3/ITV4 on UPC I'm afraid.

Your options are, as already mentioned, TG4, or subscribe to the Eurosport Player for July. I think it's around €5.

The Eurosport smartphone app is also handy for keeping tabs on things when your work schedule interrupts your TDF schedule It also allows you to subscribe for only a month at a time.

Briando

Flicked on to eurosport now and live tour coverage at 1:15 it says!
I'm on upc