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    #62
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Some of the best weapons are unlocked very early, M16a3 springs to mind.


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    #63
    AnCapaillMor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    For me the M16A3 and M27 are the best guns in the game. Both are default guns but can only be used as the US. According to fhrope the AK-74 is pretty good since the patch.


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    #64
    spankmaster2000
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭spankmaster2000


    Maybe it's just me; but I have an awful lot of carbine ribbons from using the SCAR-H as an engineer.
    I think my terrible aim is just "anywhere in the middle of the body" and the gun's own recoil ends up giving me a bunch of headshots.

    Thumbs up from me.


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    #65
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,515 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Yeah, have a look at the bullets stats or with Better Battlelog for example, and you can see which guns are good for secondary headshots. The A-91 has crazy lateral spread compared to say the AN-94.


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    #66
    umpsfar
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭umpsfar


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    This would probably be more in line with reality though.
    just b4 my car had to go in for the NCT i took a blowtorch to it for 3 minutes just to be sure ;)


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    #67
    umpsfar
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭umpsfar


    danniemcq wrote: »
    I know for the next few weeks while i get up through the ranks it will be a tough slog with lots of death and destruction but i'm gonna stick with it!
    Play metro 64 player for a few hours a days u'll surpass my rank ina few weeks,


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    #68
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,515 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    TDM is also a quick way to rack up lots of points. Especially if you whore an auto-shotty.


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    #69
    ktulu123
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,091 Mod ✭✭✭✭ktulu123


    umpsfar wrote: »
    Play metro 64 player for a few hours a days u'll surpass my rank ina few weeks,

    But dont really play it, it sucks balls and is a cancer to the game


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    #70
    SeantheMan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    danniemcq wrote: »

    I know for the next few weeks while i get up through the ranks it will be a tough slog with lots of death and destruction but i'm gonna stick with it!

    So if you see me in the servers gonna say sorry now and get it out of the way!!!

    Nearly everyone you see posting here plays on the same TeamSpeak and BF3 server.
    So feel free to come along and join in :D
    Craggy Island btw, someone more knowledgeable than me can post details :P


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    #71
    Blazer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,418 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    Nearly everyone you see posting here plays on the same TeamSpeak and BF3 server.
    So feel free to come along and join in :D
    Craggy Island btw, someone more knowledgeable than me can post details :P

    Craggy teamspeak is

    teamspeaki3d.net:10447


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    #72
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    I was playing lastnight and the usual debate was running in chat about the new suppression,some saying its more tactical and stops the run and gun gameplay others disagreeing.
    I suggested we get 2 teams of 5 to stand opposite eachother 20 feet apart and just start shooting eachother,nobody died until it was time to reload,the stupid suppression is magnified the more people that shoot and nobody could hit enemy 20 feet away,its absolutely retarded now wtf were they thinking?


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    #73
    G.J.
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭G.J.


    But the effect isn't even that severe, it's not like you become completely incapacitated, you can still shoot back. If you keep aiming towards them while you're being suppressed, you'll still hit them.

    I've been running around on maps like Operation Metro, Grand Bazar and Seine Crossing with an AN-94 assault rifle without being too badly effected. It's all about how you engage the target. If you stay out in the open and try to shoot back, you'll die. Run away, get into cover, wait for his reload and fire back. Or just use the cover specialisation, it reduces the suppressive effect.


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    #74
    jumbobreakfast
    Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭jumbobreakfast


    Some support class players have worked out how to profit from the new suppression tweaks. Once they go prone and start shooting it's very difficult to hit such a small target under suppression.

    I've noticed certain players doing this over and over again. I saw a video on the battlelog forums which showed how bad it is. I'm giving Dice the benefit of the doubt for now but so far I'm surprised this made it through playtesting


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    #75
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    G.J. wrote: »
    I've been running around on maps like Operation Metro, Grand Bazar and Seine Crossing with an AN-94 assault rifle without being too badly effected. It's all about how you engage the target. If you stay out in the open and try to shoot back, you'll die. Run away, get into cover, wait for his reload and fire back. Or just use the cover specialisation, it reduces the suppressive effect.

    Your merely stating the obvious,thats all well and good but unfortunately far too often there are times when this suppression is absolutely crazy.
    One on one its not too bad but its rare your one on one.


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    #76
    SeantheMan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    I've not experienced this "suppresion" that everyone keeps talking about :p
    I don't get supressed in Jets and Choppers :cool:


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    #77
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    I don't get supressed in Jets and Choppers :cool:
    We have a solution to you. That right Blazer? :)

    I personally haven't seen a problem with the suppression. If anything it makes the game more realistic IMO.


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    #78
    G.J.
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭G.J.


    Dcully wrote: »
    G.J. wrote: »
    I've been running around on maps like Operation Metro, Grand Bazar and Seine Crossing with an AN-94 assault rifle without being too badly effected. It's all about how you engage the target. If you stay out in the open and try to shoot back, you'll die. Run away, get into cover, wait for his reload and fire back. Or just use the cover specialisation, it reduces the suppressive effect.

    Your merely stating the obvious,thats all well and good but unfortunately far too often there are times when this suppression is absolutely crazy.
    One on one its not too bad but its rare your one on one.
    But surely if you've gotten into a situation where it's you on your own versus multiple enemies then it's more an error on your part. Battlefield has always been the game that's been about team-based tactical gameplay. If you run into a situation where you're on your own facing the enemy head on, you deserve the death if you don't retreat.

    But I know it's hard to play as a team if it's yourself and a bunch of random players, but that's when I'd switch up my gameplay. Take the smoke launcher and create flanking maneuvres, get in behind the enemy instead of taking the usual direct route. The smoke launcher is my crutch, its saved me multiple times.


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    #79
    jonski
    Registered Users Posts: 6,389 ✭✭✭jonski


    jumbobreakfast wrote: »
    I'm surprised this made it through playtesting

    You must be new to this whole thing , I think they use the term "playtesting" in the loosest possible sense


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    #80
    jumbobreakfast
    Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭jumbobreakfast


    jonski wrote: »
    You must be new to this whole thing , I think they use the term "playtesting" in the loosest possible sense

    lol, you might be right. To be fair on them though I have no doubt that trying to keep a game balanced with this many weapons, vehicles and perks is really tricky. It's a pity we have to be the playtesters as well


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    #81
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    G.J. wrote: »
    But surely if you've gotten into a situation where it's you on your own versus multiple enemies then it's more an error on your part. Battlefield has always been the game that's been about team-based tactical gameplay. If you run into a situation where you're on your own facing the enemy head on, you deserve the death if you don't retreat.

    But I know it's hard to play as a team if it's yourself and a bunch of random players, but that's when I'd switch up my gameplay. Take the smoke launcher and create flanking maneuvres, get in behind the enemy instead of taking the usual direct route. The smoke launcher is my crutch, its saved me multiple times.


    smoke launcher will be tested tonight :P


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