Selling Naming Rights: O2, Aviva, Bord Gáis Energy

Rabidlamb

Where do you stand on this ?.
It'll always be Landsdowne to me, same The Point & The Grand Canal.
At least Thomand Park didn't piss all over it's heritage for the fast buck.

Why not take this idiocy to the nth degree & sell the name of the country, any suggestions ?

kieranfitz

Here, here.

Unavailable for Comment

Economists are always saying we need good press about the economy for "the markets" so what about change it to China?

Rabidlamb

Unavailable for Comment wrote: »

Economists are always saying we need good press about the economy for "the markets" so what about change it to China?

How about iRELAND to cash in on all that Apple money.

super_furry

I honestly don't think I could give less of a fu*k.

Chuck Stone

Irelandland™




brought to you by Disney

MrStuffins

People getting their knickers in a twist over things like this is silly!

There is MAJOR money to be made by selling the naming rights. And if it's "Always gonna be Landsdowne to me" then where's the big deal? Keep calling it Landsdowne (as I do and a lot of other people do) and let the big companies pay their money.

It's like when your local pub gets renamed. Everyone continues to call it whetever it was before!

hardCopy

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Where do you stand on this ?.
It'll always be Landsdowne to me, same The Point & The Grand Canal.
At least Thomand Park didn't piss all over it's heritage for the fast buck.

Why not take this idiocy to the nth degree & sell the name of the country, any suggestions ?

IIRC it very nearly became Toyota Park, or Toyota Park Thomond or something.

Dravokivich

Going to the O2 does not make me want to change phone companies, going to the Aviva does not make me feel inclined to get health insurance from them.

I already use Bord Gais for gas as I'm sure many others do, so it changes nothing.

Sindri

Lets just call it the East Caribbean and cash in on the tourism.

CardBordWindow

It's basically free money for venues.
If someone was throwing serious money at you to change your name, you probably would.

cournioni

This country, sadly, has sold its soul.

RobbingBandit

kieranfitz wrote: »

Here, here.

Well spotted good sir, it is indeed happening here.

I Heart Internet

It's great to have decent venues in this country. They cost a fair bit. If some company wants to sponsor it for their name above the door then great.

OP's nostalgia for e.g. calling a stadium on Landsdown Road - Landsdon Road is misplaced.

Anyway, only the media are obliged to call it Aviva Stadium (or they don;t get invited to press things there). Everyone else can call it whatever the hell they want.

I Heart Internet

cournioni wrote: »

This country sadly has sold its soul.

What does that even mean??

Andy!!

I Heart Internet wrote: »

What does that even mean??

Preeeeetty simple statement, no?

I Heart Internet

Andy!! wrote: »

Preeeeetty simple statement, no?

No.

What is a country's soul?
How can a country sell it?
To who?
For how much?

To be honest, it just read like a cliche with no particular meaning but reinforcing a general feeling that we're all ****ed.

Getting sponsorship for sport and entertainment venues isn't the end of the world. Surely it's quite a good thing.

humanji

Landsdown Road and The Point were knocked down. There's two new buildings in their place.

Rabidlamb

humanji wrote: »

Landsdown Road and The Point were knocked down. There's two new buildings in their place.

So were Croker & Thomond.

cournioni

I Heart Internet wrote: »

What does that even mean??

It means that we whore ourselves out to the highest bidders, rip people off with extortionate prices at the expense of identity and taste. As Chuck Stone said "Irelandland™ brought to you by Disney".

humanji

Rabidlamb wrote: »

So were Croker & Thomond.

And the new buildings were named after the old. In the case of The O2 and Aviva, they weren't.

upandcumming

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Where do you stand on this ?.
It'll always be Landsdowne to me, same The Point & The Grand Canal.
At least Thomand Park didn't piss all over it's heritage for the fast buck.

Why not take this idiocy to the nth degree & sell the name of the country, any suggestions ?

It won't be Landsdowne, The Point & the Grand Canal to me. It'll be the Aviva, the O2 and the Bord Gais Theatre. Because those are their names.

El Weirdo

Rabidlamb wrote: »

...It'll always be Landsdowne to me...

Really? It'll always be Lansdowne Road to me.

MrStuffins

cournioni wrote: »

It means that we whore ourselves out to the highest bidders, rip people off with extortionate prices at the expense of identity and taste. As Chuck Stone said "Irelandland™ brought to you by Disney".

So hold on, it's ok to go to a footbal/rugbyl game and have ads on your tickets, then massive ads outside the stadium, massive ads inside the stadium, hoardings around the pitch with ads on them, ads on the big screen (should there be one), ads on the shirts the guys are wearing (in some cases more than one), massive ads ON the pitch......... but sponsoring the actual stadium itself.........

WE'VE SOLD OUR SOUL!!!

Get a grip!

I Heart Internet

cournioni wrote: »

It means that we whore ourselves out to the highest bidders,

Still not sure what you mean. Is inward investment not a good thing? When you say whore - you mean do stuff, yeah? Like provide services, give sites for multinationals to build on, etc, etc.

cournioni wrote: »

rip people off with extortionate prices at the expense of identity and taste. As Chuck Stone said "Irelandland™ brought to you by Disney".

I agree - we (and our tourists coming here) are ripped off. Especially in the area of food and drink.

cournioni

MrStuffins wrote: »

So hold on, it's ok to go to a footbal/rugbyl game and have ads on your tickets, then massive ads outside the stadium, massive ads inside the stadium, hoardings around the pitch with ads on them, ads on the big screen (should there be one), ads on the shirts the guys are wearing (in some cases more than one), massive ads ON the pitch......... but sponsoring the actual stadium itself.........

WE'VE SOLD OUR SOUL!!!

Get a grip!

OK MrStuffins sponsored by Tampax.

pickarooney

At least most people can spell Aviva.

MrStuffins

cournioni wrote: »

OK MrStuffins sponsored by Tampax.

If Tampax offered me money to change my name on here to Tampax i'd snap their hand off!

Just like if I had €100k but wanted to build a house for €200k and Tampax offered me the rest of the money to call my house "Tampax Mansions", i'd be stupid not to take it!

humanji

pickarooney wrote: »

At least most people can spell Aviva.

That's the best part. I can never remember if it's Landsdown or Landsdowne or some other variation. Aviva rolls off the tongue like a Mexican hooker.

cournioni

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Still not sure what you mean. Is inward investment not a good thing? When you say whore - you mean do stuff, yeah? Like provide services, give sites for multinationals to build on, etc, etc.



I agree - we (and our tourists coming here) are ripped off. Especially in the area of food and drink.

Inward investment is a good thing, however, being a giant billboard for a multinational company isn't in my opinion. Especially when it is our national arena, or national soccer or rugby ground.

St.Spodo

Newcastle United's ground -St. James' Park'- is now called the Sports Direct Arena. Manchester City's is now the Etihad Stadium. Renaming venues isn't an Irish phenomenon, although I hate Landsdowne being called ''the Aviva''.

I Heart Internet

MrStuffins wrote: »

If Tampax offered me money to change my name on here to Tampax i'd snap their hand off!

Just like if I had €100k but wanted to build a house for €200k and Tampax offered me the rest of the money to call my house "Tampax Mansions", i'd be stupid not to take it!

Yep, same here. In a heartbeat. Just ask my son Always Ultra.

The names of entertainment venues aren't the beginning and end of our national identity. Twould be a bigger issue if say Google wanted to rename the GPO the Google Post Office or Mars wanted the word Mars to be used instead of Ta in the irish language.

cournioni

MrStuffins wrote: »

If Tampax offered me money to change my name on here to Tampax i'd snap their hand off!

Just like if I had €100k but wanted to build a house for €200k and Tampax offered me the rest of the money to call my house "Tampax Mansions", i'd be stupid not to take it!

If money takes priority over your identity, I guess that is your prerogative.

MrStuffins

cournioni wrote: »

Inward investment is a good thing, however, being a giant billboard for a multinational company isn't in my opinion. Especially when it is our national arena, or national soccer or rugby ground.

Well luckily not everybody thinks some sort of intanglible niggly annoyance like "Grrr.... It should still be called Landsdowne Road" is worth more than the millions and millions of Euros actually needed to complete the project!

cournioni

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Yep, same here. In a heartbeat. Just ask my son Always Ultra.

The names of entertainment venues aren't the beginning and end of our national identity. Twould be a bigger issue if say Google wanted to rename the GPO the Google Post Office or Mars wanted the word Mars to be used instead of Ta in the irish language.

Sad, very sad indeed.

I Heart Internet

cournioni wrote: »

Inward investment is a good thing, however, being a giant billboard for a multinational company isn't in my opinion. Especially when it is our national arena, or national soccer or rugby ground.

Ireland doesn't have a national stadium. Certain sporting organisations have developed fine big stadia. They live in the real world and have to pay for them (as well as paying all the other costs of promoting their games). Therfore it makes barrel loads of sense for these organisations to allow sponsorship of these grounds.

If that makes you feel less Irish or that we're all loosing what makes us Irish (a stadium name) then fair enough.

MrStuffins

cournioni wrote: »

If money takes priority over your identity, I guess that is your prerogative.

Fortunately for me, my identity is more than just my username on Boards.ie

And the title of my house has absolutely nothing to do with my identity.

Show me the money!

Collie D

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well luckily not everybody thinks some sort of intanglible niggly annoyance like "Grrr.... It should still be called Landsdowne Road" is worth more than the millions and millions of Euros actually needed to complete the project!

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If they couldn't find a sponsor to name the stadium it might not have been built or at the least the organisations involved would be deeper in debt. Cue John Delaney and whoever runs the other game they play there discussing ways of making up the shortfall. Increased ticket prices being the obvious answer.

I Heart Internet

cournioni wrote: »

Sad, very sad indeed.

What's sad??

My hilarious joke?

You realise I wasn't advocating the use of Mars and Google like that don't you???

Riamfada

If anyone from O2 see this


I WILL CHANGE MY NAME TO O2 FOR 1MILLION EURO.

MrStuffins

Riamfada wrote: »

If anyone from O2 see this


I WILL CHANGE MY NAME TO O2 FOR 1MILLION EURO.

I'll change it for €999,999.99

Your move O2 presents Riamfada!

Collie D

Riamfada wrote: »

If anyone from O2 see this


I WILL CHANGE MY NAME TO O2 FOR 1MILLION EURO.

I'll do it for half


EDIT

Sonnenblumen

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Where do you stand on this ?.
It'll always be Landsdowne to me, same The Point & The Grand Canal.
At least Thomand Park didn't piss all over it's heritage for the fast buck.

Why not take this idiocy to the nth degree & sell the name of the country, any suggestions ?

I wonder if there's a market for spelling rights?:rolleyes:

RobbingBandit

I would change my name to O2 for €52

Collie D

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I would change my name to O2 for €52

I'll give you €53 not to and let mine be the winning bid.

cournioni

Collie D wrote: »

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If they couldn't find a sponsor to name the stadium it might not have been built or at the least the organisations involved would be deeper in debt. Cue John Delaney and whoever runs the other game they play there discussing ways of making up the shortfall. Increased ticket prices being the obvious answer.

They could have built the stadium elsewhere for a fraction of the price and named it after an Irish soccer or rugby legend rather than a multinational company. If John Delaney wasn't on such a ridiculous wage the FAI would probably be able to pay off their debt a little bit quicker too.

RobbingBandit

Collie D wrote: »

I'll give you €53 not to and let mine be the winning bid.

I accept cash in the form of two cent coins only,pay up or I sue.

mirrorball

St.Spodo wrote: »

Newcastle United's ground -St. James' Park'- is now called the Sports Direct Arena. Manchester City's is now the Etihad Stadium. Renaming venues isn't an Irish phenomenon, although I hate Landsdowne being called ''the Aviva''.

True but what about the national stadiums? Murrayfield, Hampden Park, Twickenham, Wembley, Millennium Stadium, Stade de France etc. They've all been spruced up or built/rebuilt in the last few years without flogging the name.

Perhaps the national stadiums/teams should be off limits for certain types of sponsorship. Then maybe we could buy the Irish soccer jersey without the naff "3" logo too.

MrStuffins

cournioni wrote: »

They could have built the stadium elsewhere for a fraction of the price and named it after an Irish soccer or rugby legend rather than a multinational company. If John Delaney wasn't on such a ridiculous wage the FAI would probably be able to pay off their debt a little bit quicker too.

Then people would've complained that the teams shouldn't be playing in a stadium that's not Landsdowne Road.

Then the Rugby fans would complain that "The Eamonn Dunphy Stadium" wasn't named after George Hook.

John Delaney can suck my Cadburys Creme Eggs (made a nice sum out of that) though, screw him!

MrStuffins

mirrorball wrote: »

True but what about the national stadiums? Murrayfield, Hampden Park, Twickenham, Wembley, Millennium Stadium, Stade de France etc. They've all been spruced up or built/rebuilt in the last few years without flogging the name.

Perhaps the national stadiums/teams should be off limits for certain types of sponsorship. Then maybe we could buy the Irish soccer jersey without the naff "3" logo too.

Well the Aviva Stadium is NOT our National Stadium. The majority of the funding for the stadium was through private investment.

Collie D

cournioni wrote: »

They could have built the stadium elsewhere for a fraction of the price and named it after an Irish soccer or rugby legend rather than a multinational company. If John Delaney wasn't on such a ridiculous wage the FAI would probably be able to pay off their debt a little bit quicker too.

Why do that if they had a prefectly good site that the IRFU already owned? If they'd bought a site pre 2008 they would have overpaid by a huge amount. They did look but varying factors went against them, market value being the main one. Both organisations are in a relatively healthy financial position considering they've just built a new stadium.

I won't go into the Delaney remark because this could go massively off topic.