Selling Naming Rights: O2, Aviva, Bord Gáis Energy

I Heart Internet · 22-03-2012 05:55PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

If Tampax offered me money to change my name on here to Tampax i'd snap their hand off!

Just like if I had €100k but wanted to build a house for €200k and Tampax offered me the rest of the money to call my house "Tampax Mansions", i'd be stupid not to take it!

Yep, same here. In a heartbeat. Just ask my son Always Ultra.

The names of entertainment venues aren't the beginning and end of our national identity. Twould be a bigger issue if say Google wanted to rename the GPO the Google Post Office or Mars wanted the word Mars to be used instead of Ta in the irish language.

cournioni · 22-03-2012 05:56PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

If Tampax offered me money to change my name on here to Tampax i'd snap their hand off!

Just like if I had €100k but wanted to build a house for €200k and Tampax offered me the rest of the money to call my house "Tampax Mansions", i'd be stupid not to take it!

If money takes priority over your identity, I guess that is your prerogative.

MrStuffins · 22-03-2012 05:56PM

cournioni wrote: »

Inward investment is a good thing, however, being a giant billboard for a multinational company isn't in my opinion. Especially when it is our national arena, or national soccer or rugby ground.

Well luckily not everybody thinks some sort of intanglible niggly annoyance like "Grrr.... It should still be called Landsdowne Road" is worth more than the millions and millions of Euros actually needed to complete the project!

cournioni · 22-03-2012 05:58PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Yep, same here. In a heartbeat. Just ask my son Always Ultra.

The names of entertainment venues aren't the beginning and end of our national identity. Twould be a bigger issue if say Google wanted to rename the GPO the Google Post Office or Mars wanted the word Mars to be used instead of Ta in the irish language.

Sad, very sad indeed.

I Heart Internet · 22-03-2012 05:59PM

cournioni wrote: »

Inward investment is a good thing, however, being a giant billboard for a multinational company isn't in my opinion. Especially when it is our national arena, or national soccer or rugby ground.

Ireland doesn't have a national stadium. Certain sporting organisations have developed fine big stadia. They live in the real world and have to pay for them (as well as paying all the other costs of promoting their games). Therfore it makes barrel loads of sense for these organisations to allow sponsorship of these grounds.

If that makes you feel less Irish or that we're all loosing what makes us Irish (a stadium name) then fair enough.

MrStuffins · 22-03-2012 05:59PM

cournioni wrote: »

If money takes priority over your identity, I guess that is your prerogative.

Fortunately for me, my identity is more than just my username on Boards.ie

And the title of my house has absolutely nothing to do with my identity.

Show me the money!

Collie D · 22-03-2012 05:59PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well luckily not everybody thinks some sort of intanglible niggly annoyance like "Grrr.... It should still be called Landsdowne Road" is worth more than the millions and millions of Euros actually needed to complete the project!

This

If they couldn't find a sponsor to name the stadium it might not have been built or at the least the organisations involved would be deeper in debt. Cue John Delaney and whoever runs the other game they play there discussing ways of making up the shortfall. Increased ticket prices being the obvious answer.

I Heart Internet · 22-03-2012 06:01PM

cournioni wrote: »

Sad, very sad indeed.

What's sad??

My hilarious joke?

You realise I wasn't advocating the use of Mars and Google like that don't you???

Riamfada · 22-03-2012 06:04PM

If anyone from O2 see this

I WILL CHANGE MY NAME TO O2 FOR 1MILLION EURO.

MrStuffins · 22-03-2012 06:05PM

Riamfada wrote: »

If anyone from O2 see this

I WILL CHANGE MY NAME TO O2 FOR 1MILLION EURO.

I'll change it for €999,999.99

Your move O2 presents Riamfada!

Collie D · 22-03-2012 06:06PM

Riamfada wrote: »

If anyone from O2 see this

I WILL CHANGE MY NAME TO O2 FOR 1MILLION EURO.

I'll do it for half

EDIT

Sonnenblumen · 22-03-2012 06:06PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Where do you stand on this ?.
It'll always be Landsdowne to me, same The Point & The Grand Canal.
At least Thomand Park didn't piss all over it's heritage for the fast buck.

Why not take this idiocy to the nth degree & sell the name of the country, any suggestions ?

I wonder if there's a market for spelling rights?:rolleyes:

RobbingBandit · 22-03-2012 06:08PM

I would change my name to O2 for €52

Collie D · 22-03-2012 06:10PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I would change my name to O2 for €52

I'll give you €53 not to and let mine be the winning bid.

cournioni · 22-03-2012 06:11PM

Collie D wrote: »

This

If they couldn't find a sponsor to name the stadium it might not have been built or at the least the organisations involved would be deeper in debt. Cue John Delaney and whoever runs the other game they play there discussing ways of making up the shortfall. Increased ticket prices being the obvious answer.

They could have built the stadium elsewhere for a fraction of the price and named it after an Irish soccer or rugby legend rather than a multinational company. If John Delaney wasn't on such a ridiculous wage the FAI would probably be able to pay off their debt a little bit quicker too.

RobbingBandit · 22-03-2012 06:13PM

Collie D wrote: »

I'll give you €53 not to and let mine be the winning bid.

I accept cash in the form of two cent coins only,pay up or I sue.

mirrorball · 22-03-2012 06:13PM

St.Spodo wrote: »

Newcastle United's ground -St. James' Park'- is now called the Sports Direct Arena. Manchester City's is now the Etihad Stadium. Renaming venues isn't an Irish phenomenon, although I hate Landsdowne being called ''the Aviva''.

True but what about the national stadiums? Murrayfield, Hampden Park, Twickenham, Wembley, Millennium Stadium, Stade de France etc. They've all been spruced up or built/rebuilt in the last few years without flogging the name.

Perhaps the national stadiums/teams should be off limits for certain types of sponsorship. Then maybe we could buy the Irish soccer jersey without the naff "3" logo too.

MrStuffins · 22-03-2012 06:14PM

cournioni wrote: »

They could have built the stadium elsewhere for a fraction of the price and named it after an Irish soccer or rugby legend rather than a multinational company. If John Delaney wasn't on such a ridiculous wage the FAI would probably be able to pay off their debt a little bit quicker too.

Then people would've complained that the teams shouldn't be playing in a stadium that's not Landsdowne Road.

Then the Rugby fans would complain that "The Eamonn Dunphy Stadium" wasn't named after George Hook.

John Delaney can suck my Cadburys Creme Eggs (made a nice sum out of that) though, screw him!

MrStuffins · 22-03-2012 06:17PM

mirrorball wrote: »

True but what about the national stadiums? Murrayfield, Hampden Park, Twickenham, Wembley, Millennium Stadium, Stade de France etc. They've all been spruced up or built/rebuilt in the last few years without flogging the name.

Perhaps the national stadiums/teams should be off limits for certain types of sponsorship. Then maybe we could buy the Irish soccer jersey without the naff "3" logo too.

Well the Aviva Stadium is NOT our National Stadium. The majority of the funding for the stadium was through private investment.

Collie D · 22-03-2012 06:17PM

cournioni wrote: »

They could have built the stadium elsewhere for a fraction of the price and named it after an Irish soccer or rugby legend rather than a multinational company. If John Delaney wasn't on such a ridiculous wage the FAI would probably be able to pay off their debt a little bit quicker too.

Why do that if they had a prefectly good site that the IRFU already owned? If they'd bought a site pre 2008 they would have overpaid by a huge amount. They did look but varying factors went against them, market value being the main one. Both organisations are in a relatively healthy financial position considering they've just built a new stadium.

I won't go into the Delaney remark because this could go massively off topic.

cournioni · 22-03-2012 06:19PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well the Aviva Stadium is NOT our National Stadium. The majority of the funding for the stadium was through private investment.

Almost half of it was paid for through a government grant though.

MrStuffins · 22-03-2012 06:20PM

cournioni wrote: »

Almost half of it was paid for through a government grant though.

Almost half

Which means most wasn't!

Doesn't change the fact that it's NOT out National Stadium

I Heart Internet · 22-03-2012 06:22PM

cournioni wrote: »

Almost half of it was paid for through a government grant though.

And that grant would have needed to be more if Aviva weren't involved.

Collie D · 22-03-2012 06:23PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I accept cash in the form of two cent coins only,pay up or I sue.

Do you accept Trócaire boxes?

cournioni · 22-03-2012 06:28PM

Collie D wrote: »

Why do that if they had a prefectly good site that the IRFU already owned? If they'd bought a site pre 2008 they would have overpaid by a huge amount. They did look but varying factors went against them, market value being the main one. Both organisations are in a relatively healthy financial position considering they've just built a new stadium.

I won't go into the Delaney remark because this could go massively off topic.

I wouldn't say it was a perfectly good site, they could only increase capacity by six thousand compared to the old stadium because the residents of Havelock Square had a large say in its planning. Hence the 15 row stand behind the goals at the Havelock end of the ground.

They could have sold the land and built a new stadium with money to spare back when the building started.

cournioni · 22-03-2012 06:31PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

And that grant would have needed to be more if Aviva weren't involved.

Aviva, fine ambassadors to Ireland.

I Heart Internet · 22-03-2012 06:31PM

cournioni wrote: »

I wouldn't say it was a perfectly good site, they could only increase capacity by six thousand compared to the old stadium because the residents of Havelock Square had a large say in its planning. Hence the 15 row stand behind the goals at the Havelock end of the ground.

They could have sold the land and built a new stadium with money to spare back when the building started.

But if you're nostalgic about the name are you not also nostalgic for the location? What would you say if they (the IRFU and the FAI) had built a new stadium in, say, Tallaght? Would it be ok to name that the Aviva Stadium?? Or would they be better off turning down the millions of euros and call it after whatever townland in Tallaght it happened to be in??

I Heart Internet · 22-03-2012 06:32PM

cournioni wrote: »

Aviva, fine ambassadors to Ireland.

What do you mean?

MrStuffins · 22-03-2012 06:34PM

cournioni wrote: »

Aviva, fine ambassadors to Ireland.

May I ask, why exactly do you think the name should NOT be leased? (by the way, it's only leased and NOT sold, it will be the Aviva Stadium until 2019 unless they reach another agreement).

WHat are you actual reasons for which you think they should have turned down €44m?

cournioni · 22-03-2012 06:34PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

But if you're nostalgic about the name are you not also nostalgic for the location? What would you say if they (the IRFU and the FAI) had built a new stadium in, say, Tallaght? Would it be ok to name that the Aviva Stadium?? Or would they be better off turning down the millions of euros and call it after whatever townland in Tallaght it happened to be in??

Who said I was nostalgic?

Selling Naming Rights: O2, Aviva, Bord Gáis Energy

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