Secularism on RTE's "the Frontline" tomorrow

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Monday 12 March, 9:35 pm, RTÉ1 television; Michael Nugent and Jane Donnelly will be in the audience for The Frontline, and members of Educate Together will also be there. The programme will be discussing issues relevant to secularism. Educate Together are looking for parents to take part in the show.
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Dades

I should watch this but I'm afraid I'll end up throwing something at the TV. :pac:

recedite

I'm just preparing my Atheist Ireland 4 World Domination twitter account now, so I can catch Michael Nugent off guard with a scandalous and revelatory bogus tweet.

swiftblade

Im afraid that this will turn into what happened a while back on the Late Late Show ****e.

Someone will come out with some crazy opinion. "Anyone who isn't Catholic is bad", and everyone will clap. I then realsie how f**ked up Ireland is and break down and cry.

I like living in my own happy little world. I'll still watch it though...

Galvasean

Arsenal v Newcastle is on.
Sorry Frontline :P

philologos

Dades wrote: »

I should watch this but I'm afraid I'll end up throwing something at the TV. :pac:

Sounds like the equivalent of watching The Big Questions on a Sunday morning :pac:

I may see if I can get a glimpse of this on RTÉ Player.

krudler

ah tis a disgrace Joe

Turtwig

It comes down this : keeping my faith in humanity or having it shattered by watching moronic comments about evil secular strawmen. I think I'll choose bliss on this one and give it a miss.

Penn

I'll watch it just so I know my anger at people who oppose secularism is justified and to confirm that I'm on the right side of the fence.

Pace2008

I just know this will be perfect for a game of backwards-Ireland bingo. I have no doubt that "Catholic country" and "part of who we are" will feature. Any other suggestions are welcome.

ShooterSF

Jernal wrote: »

It comes down this : keeping my faith in humanity or having it shattered by watching moronic comments about evil secular strawmen. I think I'll choose bliss on this one and give it a miss.

So you'd prefer to believe a comforting lie eh?

Turtwig

ShooterSF wrote: »

So you'd prefer to believe a comforting lie eh?

It's neither a truth nor a lie if I remain ignorant towards it.

lazygal

Does anyone know who will be on the panel?

PLEASE tell the Iona 'Institute' won't be wheeled out again!

eoin5

The format doesn't allow for proper discussion so I'll give it a miss.

swiftblade

eoin5 wrote: »

The format doesn't allow for proper discussion so I'll give it a miss.

Exactly. Majority rules and sadly the majority are idiots.

Jimoslimos

Pace2008 wrote: »

I just know this will be perfect for a game of backwards-Ireland bingo. I have no doubt that "Catholic country" and "part of who we are" will feature. Any other suggestions are welcome.

ethos
spiritual wellbeing
moral guidance
persecution

Oooh this could be fun!

swiftblade

"If they want athiest schools they should set up their own"
"Stop discriminating against Catholics"
"People have a right to educate their Children in a Catholic run school"
"If the government stop funding Catholic run schools, that's discrimination"

This stuff writes itself.The more I think about it I think I'll avoid watching it.

lazygal

"Ireland is becoming a very dangerous place to be Catholic"
"Creeping secularism is not in keeping with how Irish people want to live"
"Morals and ethics and sins, oh my, how ever will people behave themselves if there's no big deity waiting to catch them out"
"The church educated our children and provided health and social care when the State couldn't afford it".

Galvasean

I do like watching the sound men running up and down the stairs so that they can catch the rubbish on mic.

Dave!

Shall be watching... Will be ready to send in texts and stuff to provide some balance to the expected idiocy

Burning Eclipse

Had planned on playing Mass Effect 3 tonight, but I'll give this a chance. Glad I spotted the thread now. If it's horribly unbalanced in the first 15 minutes I'm gone however.

Daughter is in an educate together school btw and it's absolutely brilliant

Galvasean

Are we winning? :pac:

expectationlost

if there isn't a representative from the church ie bishop o'reilly and the goverment ie minister quinn, then the program is pointless

MagicMarker

I do hope Michael Nugent is on the panel and not stuck in the audience, limited to 60 seconds of air time.

Anyway, who brought the popcorn?

Dave!

OMG IT'S ABOUT TO START!!!!!!!!!

MagicMarker

David Quinn.

Someone hand me a gun.

Dave!

F*ckin Iona Institute clown is on.

Mick Nugent is in the crowd. Ivana Bacik is the token atheist.

Turtwig

Quinn and Bacik, I'm glad I just followed the thread and not the programme. C'mon Arsenal.

Cossax

'Aggressive' has been used quite a few times already. :rolleyes:

MagicMarker

WTF is that women on? Catholic opinions are being dismissed?!

swiftblade

Ahh, I see they filled the audience with the usual idiots. Well done RTE, well done.

rte in "omg catholics are being repressed" shocker

not watching it but sounds like the usual stuff

Dades

Pat's doing okay.

We haven't got to that ominous looking panel yet, though.

Dave!

swiftblade wrote: »

Ahh, I see they filled the audience with the usual idiots. Well done RTE, well done.

In fairness they've had 2 Atheists and 2 goons speak so far - balanced enough!

Delirium

one of the audience said we're moving away from "a religiously neutral country."

Dave!

Ivana Bacik doing well

Enter David Quinn.....

omerin

Christ (sorry for the religious reference) why is Biffo wearing a necklace :eek: or would that be an ecumenical matter

Galvasean

Think i'll watch on the Player tomorrow. Too buzzed after that Arsenal match

pconn062

Am I the only one who thinks that the priest is being the most reasonable of the religious guests?

swiftblade

That women from Drogheda scared me.

Dades

That Islamic guy didn't really get the whole secular thing.

robindch

Pat: "So what do you think about the two gay guys next to you -- they don't have horns".

Nice one, Pat!

whatdoicare

That crazy lady with her "My Schooool!!! It's MY school!!" WTF does she really think she owns the school because her kids go there?

I'd hate to be her kids if they don't really believe or if they were hiding the fact they were gay from her...:eek: there's gonna be some epic arguments in that household!

magicbastarder

reminds me of a caller on a radio show being asked by the presenter (may have been pat kenny) if he'd shake hands with david norris (who was dialled in on another line); after some humming and hawing, the caller decided that on balance, he'd rather not.
norris piped up with 'i'm not contagious, you know'.

Delirium

a texter sent in "you can't have morality without religion". :rolleyes:

Turtwig

Why do I get the feeling reading this that RTE will be accused of "liberal bias" again?:pac:

lynski

WTF is up with David Quinn? is he a special needs adult or something?
the integrated schools in Yugoslavia did not help one bit after things broke down there?
HELLO, reality here, Mr. Quinn. I have your check.

Oh, Paul Rowe, I am so thankful for you and Educate Together everyday.
My children, to paraphrase the wonderful Mr. Lennon, live their life with 'no heaven,.... no hell below us; above us only sky' because there is no God, no hell, no guilt, no sin in their world.

pconn062

koth wrote: »

a texter sent in "you can't have morality without religion". :rolleyes:

Yeah that made me laugh a lot.

quad_red

Watching this program would make ye thing Christians only have 10% schools.

And not the other way around.

robindch

lynski wrote: »

WTF is up with David Quinn? is he a special needs adult or something? the integrated schools in Yugoslavia did not help one bit after things broke down there?

Mr Quinn is presumably unaware of what the Orthodox Church got up to during the secessionist wars of Yugoslavia.

Delirium

david quinn continuing to peddle the myth of faith schools achieving better grades from students. Pity he fails to mention the policies on admissions that make sure they get those grades.