Do you think the Chinese could take over the world if they wanted to?

bb1234567

Well they definitely have a large enough population to do so.

Sunnyisland

Do you think the Chinese could take over the world if they wanted to?


No, I asked one in the takeaway last night,There not interested.

Jen Pigs Fly

Yea sure why not!

im invisible

i heard they have super powers, or something, i wasn't really listening

Hande hoche!

Nope just like in take aways, the Indians would match them.

Fromthetrees

Nuclear weapons means no one can take over the world militarily, the 4t.h. world war will be fought with sticks and stones or not at all.
Financially is the only way China could take over the world, has watching the documentary Austin Powers thought you anything?

benway

First they get the garlic, then they get the money, then they get the power, then they get the women.

Bad Panda

I think they've already started slowly poisoning people what with the kind of food they serve in 'Chinese' restaurants.

micropig

Cha-Ching, my Chinese accountant says not*:D

Is china taking over the world? This interesting link might inform further




*Yes I eat that many Chinese meals I have a special accountant to keep track:D

Wetai

They could make their own versions of us, replacing us all slowly.

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Chuck Stone

Nope. The US will be a considerable force for the next century I reckon.

micropig

They already got athlone I believe;)



A great bunch of lads:D

Cicero

Who wants the world? it's feiced....now the moon...with all that cheese...that's a different story....

Hande hoche!

Cicero wrote: »

Who wants the world? it's feiced....now the moon...with all that cheese...that's a different story....

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/03/02/a-smashing-finale-chinas-lunar-probe-crashes-into-the-moon/

Toby Take a Bow

Domo230 wrote: »

there a great bunch of lads.

Post number SEVEN before this came up? I'm disappointed, AH.

Oh, second mention post number 13.

micropig

Cicero wrote: »

Who wants the world? it's feiced....now the moon...with all that cheese...that's a different story....

Hande hoche! wrote: »

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/03/02/a-smashing-finale-chinas-lunar-probe-crashes-into-the-moon/

They're lying to you...it's not cheese at all https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxRA5OUs9BmRwe51M-SIWVuMT5-YWH6D8y38e0KT_lHjhVuuqY

We’re off to Button Moon, we follow Mr Spoon, Button Moooon, Button Mooo-ooon’


The chinese? A great bunch of lads :P

Paulie Gualtieri

no , but if they tried the world would be wiped out.

heres the scenario...

hey guy I weally want to take over world , lets set off the nukes to destwroy amerwica ... and any opposition.....

20 nuclear subs in return blow the sh1t out of China..

Then Chinese subs .....etc

then were all gone for evers.

The End

cml387

The Chinese, a gleat bunch of rads.

Nodin

bb1234567 wrote: »

Well they definitely have a large enough population to do so.

They're the ones behind the plot to have us all turn gay. Soon we'll be extinct and only the chinese will be left. Then they'll come out of the tunnells under our houses and take over.

AG2R

They already are, the takeaways are secret spy shops....

micropig

cml387 wrote: »

The Chinese, a great bunch of rads.

Let me just add
If they took over the world, I would be sad
To see them prosper though, I would be glad
Once they don't try and take my pad
I would report them to my dad

rads, adds, glads & sads,

The chinese are a great bunch of lads:D

Hande hoche!

micropig wrote: »

They're lying to you...it's not cheese at all https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxRA5OUs9BmRwe51M-SIWVuMT5-YWH6D8y38e0KT_lHjhVuuqY

We’re off to Button Moon, we follow Mr Spoon, Button Moooon, Button Mooo-ooon’


The chinese? A great bunch of lads :P

That makes more sense. I was wondering why a country with such high levels of lactose intolerance wanted so much cheese.

micropig

Hande hoche! wrote: »

That makes more sense. I was wondering why a country with such high levels of lactose intolerance wanted so much cheese.

Here is the actual log from the mission:cool:



Summary Report
We've been to Button Moon, we've followed Mr. Spoon,
Button Moon, Button Moon. We've been to Button Moon,
Button Moon x 4, Be back soon! Button Moon


Three Little Pigs" 8 December 1980
Mrs. Spoon gives Mr. Spoon a present. It's a spaceship, so now he can fly to Button Moon.

2 "The Witch's Toast" 15 December 1980
Mr. Spoon flies from Junk Planet, through Blanket Sky to shining Button Moon. There he meets Captain Large and the Bottle Army. Through his telescope he spies a witch's magic.

3 "Billy Goat's Gruff" 22 December 1980
Mr. Spoon flies from his home on Junk Planet to Button Moon.

4 "Sid and Baby" 29 December 1980
Mr. Spoon lives with his family on Junk Planet. He has seen Button Moon shining in Blanket Sky and travels there in his spaceship.

5 "The Three Wishes" 1 January 1981
Mr. Spoon goes to see Captain Large and his army. He also meets Bertie and Gertie, who have three wishes.

6 "Storks" 12 January 1981
Mr. Spoon sees the stars playing a game. He also sees two strange birds and a camel who help to bring happiness to a sad princess.

7 "Tin-Who-Tea-What" 12 January 1981
When Tina gets a bump on her head, she cannot remember who she is. Maybe Mr. Spoon can help. But soon, things go wrong.

8 "Scruffy and the Bone" 26 January 1981
Mr. Spoon helps a pair of scissors which have accidentally cut a thread holding Button Moon in Blanket Sky. Through his telescope he sees two unusual dancers and Scruffy and Basil, two dogs whch play hunt the bone.

9 "The Grasshopper and the Ants" 2 February 1981
Mr. Spoon sees a lazy grasshopper and some busy ants preparing for the winter.
10 "The Magic Wand" 9 February 1981
Mr. Spoon finds a magic wand whilst travelling to Button Moon. Meanwhile, Mrs. Spoon plans a picnic for Egbert.

11 "The Hare and the Tortoise" 16 February 1981
Mr. Spoon, who lives with his family on Junk Planet, takes his daughter, Tina Teaspoon, to Button Moon. They find some talking umbrellas there and through a telescope see a hare and a tortoise having a race.

12 "The Fox and the Hen" 23 February 1981
Mr. Spoon travels to Button Moon where he finds a wardrobe and helps to make a sad dress happy.

13 "House For Sale" 2 March 1981
Mr. Spoon and his family watch a performance of the Paper Circus. Then through their telescope they see Scruffy the dog, whose best friend is moving away.

the chinese a great bunch of lads:P

John Doe1

Sure they are all 5ft:rolleyes:

I could take them all

micropig

John Doe1 wrote: »

Sure they are all 5ft:rolleyes:

I could take them all

Keep your hurl at the ready, you might be called upon when the time comes:D

KeithAFC

Would like to them try. My petrol bomb awaits.

micropig

KeithAFC wrote: »

Would like to them try. My petrol bomb awaits.

I've set up an observation post in the mountains;)

mike65

Sure if they all jumped in unison they could rule a flooded world.

Hande hoche!

mike65 wrote: »

Sure if they all jumped in unison they could rule a flooded world.

Thankfully some countries are considerably high above sea level, like Tibet. Oh wait.

micropig

mike65 wrote: »

Sure if they all jumped in unison they could rule a flooded world.

It'll never happen according to this

China is a poor country, and lacks sufficient chairs. Moreover, many of the chairs that are available are of nonuniform height, meaning that even if all the Chinese jumped off at the same time, they'd hit the ground at different times, throwing off the results.

Finally, they point out that discipline among the Chinese people has become lax since the Cultural Revolution, and that many of the participants in the project would likely be distracted when they were supposed to be jumping


Down grade to amber alert!!

Mr Trade In

Nah, they would just build a big wall around it to keep out the space mongolians.

micropig

Mr Trade In wrote: »

Nah, they would just build a big wall around it to keep out the space mongolians.

They already have


Since the Great Wall was discontinuous, Mongol invaders had no trouble breaching the wall by going around it, so the wall proved unsuccessful and was eventually abandoned

44leto

No they would be bounced into the stoneage, but no-one would beat them, it is definitely a war that would not be over by Christmas.

It wont happen though.

wendell borton

Crelm toothpaste is the only defence!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGv2wqJJmbc

charlemont

I hope China follows its own path and does not get caught up in the west's financial system otherwise bust will surely follow and if a billion people start getting pissed off and fighting amongst each other then it will cause severe instability around the globe.

Sindri

I like Jackie Chan.

rossie1977

not a chance, they are no match for the americans in the sea or in the air for one, they don't even have one nuclear powered carrier yet operational

James T Kirk

Hande hoche! wrote: »

... the Indians would match them.

Too busy answering customer complaints.

Ellis Dee

rossie1977 wrote: »

not a chance, they are no match for the americans in the sea or in the air for one, they don't even have one nuclear powered carrier yet operational

You are talking about NOW. Look ahead, 20, 50, 100 years. What's a century to an ancient culture like China? Besides, for all we know the Chinese may be working as we speak on a missile or some other weapon that could, in an instant, render nuclear-powered carriers just as obsolete as carrier-based air power made battleships - which had been the cat's pyjamas in naval warfare up to then - became when the Pearl Harbor attack took place.:)

Anyway, some Chinese have told me they're not really into swallowing up other countries. "You only feel hungry again an hour or so later," one of them said to me.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Wibbs

Ellis Dee wrote: »

You are talking about NOW. Look ahead, 20, 50, 100 years. What's a century to an ancient culture like China? Besides, for all we know the Chinese may be working as we speak on a missile or some other weapon that could, in an instant, render nuclear-powered carriers just as obsolete as carrier-based air power made battleships - which had been the cat's pyjamas in naval warfare up to then - became when the Pearl Harbor attack took place.:)

Well I'd argue the point about battleships...IN any case it's highly unlikely the Chinese are working on such a weapon, though they may well be working on an IT based weapon that would screw with other weapon systems and economies. The Russians and the Israelis are rumoured to be and they're well ahead it seems.

Yes the Chinese are an ancient culture, with some serious innovations and sublime works of beauty in their history. However they're also the culture that damn near invented the word stagnation in between those periods of innovation. They have a two thousand year history of bursts of growth/innovation followed by looooong periods of stagnation, centralisation and rigid social structures. This is a culture whose long list of invention would shame any other culture, yet when the western nations made more contact in the 19th century they found a culture that was to all intents and purposes medieval.

Their biggest problem and one that seems to be left out of most commentators observations is a demographic one. Demographics get you every time*. This amazing economic growth of theirs has run in tandem with a big upswing in the population and availability of young workers. That spring is running out as we speak. By 2020 their stock of same will have halved. BY 2040 it will be worse again if they don't start getting jiggy now.:) Half of all primary schools in China closed in the last 5 years because there weren't enough new pupils. There are similar downward trends in university applications. Oh and this is countrywide, so the usual answer of "oh well they've a huge population in the countryside to make up the numbers" doesn't work. This will fcuk them badly. The ones left will see their value and their price will go up which will only add to it.

While China is growing its rate of growth has slowed(naturally. This always happens) and they may well have a very rocky road ahead. I remember the time when the "japanese are taking over the world!!" and... oh yea... People dig the headlines, but don't dig beneath them. I find it particularly interesting that Irish people buy into this Chinese miracle at face value. Especially given our own bubble. Then again try telling people 5 years ago this wasn't sustainable. I and others did, on this forum too IIRC and were derided.

I watched a programme on the BBC there last week about a Chinese village in the sticks that was transformed into a small city in a decade. Dunno if ye saw it, but it was interesting and had a few parallels with here in the boom. They built this city(on rock and roll..) and all looked shiny and new and all that. New shops and businesses all over the place. Then you looked at what these shops were actually selling. Building supplies. Tile shops, bathroom shops, sofa and furnishing shops etc. Businesses were noticably aimed at the same market. Landlords, property developers, builders. This new city had just one factory actually producing stuff. Not terribly sustainable. Sound familiar? 6 years ago you couldn't move in Dublin without falling into some new tile emporium or other selling italian marble columns to style blind suburbanites in their semi dees. Other than the gag inducing tackiness of it all the daftness was clear to be seen. That kinda thing is to be seen all over China. We ended up building ghost estates, they look to be building ghost cities. Yes they're different and those differences are large, however patterns tend to repeat in nature, so don't fall into the all too common mindset of "this time it's different, you know" and don't always believe the hype.





*demographics was a big driver in our own "boom". Watch Ireland have another upswing in 15-20 years on the back of another demographic wave.

Sindri

In fairness Wibbs you could've said the same about America.

I do agree though about the demographics. America can still expect population growth.

biko

They are already taking over the world. Without China everything stops.

micropig

China has a problem -- its population does not match its resources and gross domestic product. China's more than 1.3 billion people don't have the resources to adequately care for themselves [source: University Nebraska at Omaha]. This has led China to begin exporting its people, in a sense, by setting up shop in other parts of the world. Look no further than Africa, where China has rapidly developed its presence during the last decade, in countries like Nigeria and Angola, among others. During that time, more than 750,000 Chinese have moved to Africa [source: Malone]. Some experts contend that the plan is to increase this number to the hundreds of millions, helping to put a dent into China's natural resource problem by tapping into Africa's resources, while thinning the herd in the home country [source: Malone]. Air and sea routes are increasing between China and African nations as massive deals are made for commodities, trade, labor and military cooperation. Chinese private schools, embassies and cultural centers are popping up in places like Rwanda, Nairobi and Angola. Angola even has its own "Chinatown" district.

In return, countries in Africa get a willing trade partner and assistance and weaponry for its military factions. Africa also receives the supposed benefit of jobs and infrastructure building. While trade has increased from 5 million Yuan to 6 billion in the last 10 years, many contend that Africa is getting the short end of the stick, importing cheap Chinese toys and goods, while exporting valuable commodities like oil and timber. It's estimated that 70 percent of African timber ends up in Chinese ports, a figure that hints at massive deforestation [source: Malone]. There are also assertions that Chinese mining operations in Africa are staffed with African laborers earning less than one Yuan per day, which is about 14 cents [source: Malone]. The weapons sent to Africa often supply arms that help to fuel the continent's many civil wars. And in some parts of Africa, Chinese-only communities have gates, and blacks are not allowed to enter.

Similarly, China has reached out to Latin America as well, bypassing the United States as Brazil's No. 1 trading partner, and coming in second to the United States in Argentina, Costa Rica, Chile, Peru and Venezuela. With this kind of reach, and a population at well over a billion people, it's no wonder that a large percentage of the global financial news focuses on China.

Son Of A Vidic

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Nope just like in take aways, the Indians would match them.

Not really, just compare the last Commonwealth Games to the Olympic Games and you'll see why.

Tonyandthewhale

micropig wrote: »

China has a problem -- its population does not match its resources and gross domestic product. China's more than 1.3 billion people don't have the resources to adequately care for themselves...

We've already had that article in this thread.

Biggins

From the Sunday Times:

CHINESE spies hacked into computers belonging to BAE Systems, Britain’s biggest defence company, to steal details about the design, performance and electronic systems of the West’s latest fighter jet, senior security figures have disclosed.

The Chinese have exploited vulnerabilities in BAE’s computer defences to steal vast amounts of data on the 239.25€ billion F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), a multinational project to create a plane that will give the West air supremacy for years to come, according to the sources. The attack has prompted fears that the jet’s radar capabilities could have been compromised.

Apparently (stated in the long article) they'd cracked the servers as much as five years ago and have been collecting data ever since!
(BIG embarrassment for the British government)

Can they take over the world?
Possible - it looks like they are certainly trying by various new methods.
Who needs guns and weapons when you have spying and financial methods instead!

micropig

Biggins wrote: »

Can they take over the world?
Possible - it looks like they are certainly trying by various new methods.
Who needs guns and weapons when you have spying and financial methods instead!

Well I'm going to keep my eye out in case they put a large order in for chairs;)

Biggins

micropig wrote: »

Well I'm going to keep my eye out in case they put a large order in for chairs

Electric ones?

micropig

Biggins wrote: »

Electric ones?

Biggins, they'll get by you easy enough if your not aware of all their strategies:D

Here's the brief

Wibbs

Sindri wrote: »

In fairness Wibbs you could've said the same about America.

Not really S. Americas agricultural and industrial growth in the 19th century kept pace pretty closely with it's population growth. And it kept growing both internally and with all the immigrant populations feeding it. America was/is a very different model as an example of an emergent economy power.

stupidusername

Nope... If they tried it would sooner or later come down to atomic warfare and then there would be pretty much no world left worth taking over.