Che Guevara Statue In Galway

Jimbob 83

Sure it will be great craic, feck the yanks

newballsplease

Whos the sexy Guevara?!

Son Of A Vidic

Absolutely mad for the money that shower in Galway are, don't they get enough tourists already?

biko

I for one am all of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEj7jnR--Dg

My name is URL

My name is URL wrote: »

The Tea Party-goers in the US are up in arms over it

for this reason alone I'm in favor of the statue :pac:

you like a wannabe dictator because it would be in spite of someone else?

El Siglo

Would there be as many objections if a statue of Batista was put up? He was no angel in pre-communist Cuba. The yanks can't talk either, sure they still have a statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest (big in the KKK).

Yanks should mind their own business and anything that annoys Kevin Myarse is just brilliant.

galwayrush

Why not a statue of me instead? I have an ego and i didn't kill anyone..:D

Freddie59

wendell borton wrote: »

Plans to erect a Che statue in Galway has caused outrage in florida.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/01/che-guevara-statue-galway_n_1313568.html


I say that they should mind their own business and **** off, Che is one of the most influential figures of the 20th century and galway should be proud of it's connection to him.

He was a cnut. Hope it doesn't proceed.

Plazaman

A nice statue of Adolf in Eyre Square would round off the whole thing nicely. We must pander to our German financiers not the Cubans.

czx

RichieC wrote: »

We done the same thing after ww2 with the Nuremberg trials.

So that justifies Che. Do you think the people who committed treason got what was coming to them?

Wibbs

If in another universe Che was still alive and running this country you wouldn't have the opportunity to even comment on this. People should read some of the guff he came out with as far as his notion of "freedom" was concerned. Yes he was an interesting individual with a very interesting story, but just because our own Jim Fitzpatrick warholed up an already cool pic does not make the guy anything approaching some sort of saint. Indeed he could be a right vicious twat at times, above and beyond what would be required in war too.

NakedNNettles

I met someone from Florida once.

KeithAFC

Amazing. A statue of a racist.

Sergeant

Why do they have to place a statue of an extremely divisive historical figure in Galway, based upon the most tenuous of links? It's not just 'right wing Cuban exiles' who don't exactly find it tasteful.

Why not a Galway figure? Walter Macken, William O'Halloran (trade unionist and Galway's first Labour councillor - democratic socialism), Edward Martyn.

fishy fishy

nice if there was a che statue. however I have to laugh at the ones trying to get this done. You only have to look at their views to realise if che was alive today he would probably be their worst enemy.


still, anything to get your name in the paper

FARCE

Mr. CooL ICE

As a cousin of the late Ernesto, I demand a statue be built. If this is not possible, a statue of me will have to do.

prinz

After that we could throw up a statue of Michael Dwyer, that lad killed in Venezuela there a while back. Or is it only left wing nutbags who go around the world trying to force regime change we celebrate here?

Pighead

Sergeant wrote: »

Why do they have to place a statue of an extremely divisive historical figure in Galway, based upon the most tenuous of links? It's not just 'right wing Cuban exiles' who don't exactly find it tasteful.

Why not a Galway figure? Walter Macken, William O'Halloran (trade unionist and Galway's first Labour councillor - democratic socialism), Edward Martyn.

Davy from the Saw Doctors, Grainne Seoige, Flutterinbantam. List is endless.

smash

Florida can f*ck off... he's a national treasure! :rolleyes:

GombeanMan

This guy was a despicable murderous bastard. Why idolize him? He killed a massive number of innocent civilians.

lividduck

GombeanMan wrote: »

This guy was a despicable murderous bastard. Why idolize him? He killed a massive number of innocent civilians.

So what? most statues that are erected are to people who had fought for some belief or other. BTW you have your opinion but many would see Gueverra as a liberator and an inspiration.

GombeanMan

lividduck wrote: »

So what? most statues that are erected are to people who had fought for some belief or other. BTW you have your opinion but many would see Gueverra as a liberator and an inspiration.

Fair enough. Nobody is really "correct" when it comes to opinion on some matters. You are more than entitled to disagree with me. I value that freedom.

Sergeant

lividduck wrote: »

. BTW you have your opinion but many would see Gueverra as a liberator and an inspiration.

How exactly did he liberate the Cuban people? It looks to me like he helped replace a vile dictator who repressed his people, with another who repressed his people.
Just because someone has good intentions doesn't mean the result of their actions isn't a complete and utter disaster.

Crooked Jack

KeithAFC wrote: »

Amazing. A statue of a racist.

The Argentinian who fought for the Cuban people, alongside comrades of all races, forged strong links with white Russians, was proud of his Celtic ancestory and gave up a cushy position in the new Cuban government to help people of all creeds and colours in Bolivia and the Congo? A racist? Do you actually know what that word means or are you just throwing whatever muck you can in the hope that some of it sticks.

Seachmall

lividduck wrote: »

So what? most statues that are erected are to people who had fought for some belief or other. BTW you have your opinion but many would see Gueverra as a liberator and an inspiration.

Statues are typically erected of people who have represented where the statue is being erected or, at the very least, represent ideologies that those who erect the statue feel are important.

This statue does neither.

This whole thing makes Galway look like that poser who wears a Guevara t-shirt because it's cool without actually knowing who Guevara was, what he did or what he believed in.

ejmaztec

Bodhidharma wrote: »

You're ability to see alternate realities intrigues me.

However Che would never have 'run' Cuba as he was third, arguably fourth, in command of the revolution. That plus the fact that he wasn't Cuban, was fanatically supportive of Castro and was only ever interested in revolutionary combat and not governing, as his time as a minister showed.

Some big historical inaccuracies in this thread already. He wasn't 'chief interogator and torturer either' but hey, whatever.

I did say "If". My understanding is that, although he admired Castro, he didn't think Castro was left-wing enough.

KeithAFC

Crooked Jack wrote: »

The Argentinian who fought for the Cuban people, alongside comrades of all races, forged strong links with white Russians, was proud of his Celtic ancestory and gave up a cushy position in the new Cuban government to help people of all creeds and colours in Bolivia and the Congo? A racist? Do you actually know what that word means or are you just throwing whatever muck you can in the hope that some of it sticks.

Hey, it isn't my city who has a statue of him up. Just going by what he is quoted as saying.

Crooked Jack

Seachmall wrote: »

Statues are typically erected of people who have represented where the statue is being erected or, at the very least, represent ideologies that those who erect the statue feel are important.

This statue does neither.

This whole thing makes Galway look like that poser who wears a Guevara t-shirt because it's cool without actually knowing who Guevara was, what he did or what he believed in.

Che Guevara has a direct link to two Galway families. it was also an Irish artist who originally drew the iconic image of him that is seen everywhere (not always in the most appropriate places.)
Regardless of your opinion on him, he is one of the most influential and revered people of the 20th century and his Irish links cannot be denied, they surely cannot be dismissed as "posing," as such a statue is appropriate.

mikom

Seachmall wrote: »

Statues are typically erected of people who have represented where the statue is being erected or, at the very least, represent ideologies that those who erect the statue feel are important.

This statue does neither.

Even leaving aside the links to the Galway families and the Irish artist who created the iconic image.
You are aware that Galway has a student population of about 25,000
most of which will own something with this particular Che Guevara image on.
Even on that basic level there will be a connection.

The name Guevara is of Basque origin.
Guess what Galway is flooded with every summer.


"The first thing to note is that in my son's veins flowed the blood of the Irish rebels"
Who said that?

who the fug

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Che Guevara has a direct link to two Galway families. it was also an Irish artist who originally drew the iconic image of him that is seen everywhere (not always in the most appropriate places.)
.

What, that picture was taken by Alberto Korda