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'Fag' and 'that's so gay' -- do they bother you?

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    #122
    Caiseoipe19
    Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭Caiseoipe19


    old hippy wrote: »
    Bringing in a religion that actively persecutes gay people was malicious and offensive.

    End of.

    Which religion is that now?


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    #123
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Can't all ye fags not just agree to disagree? C'mon this is becoming so gay :P


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    #124
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    ashers222 wrote: »
    I'd like you to show me the post again which persecuted you.

    Scroll back up, then and don't be so lazy


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    #125
    ashers222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭ashers222


    cartell_best wrote: »
    For that particular quote^^^, never a truer word spoken.

    just my little bit: "Throughout life people will make you mad, disrespect you and treat you bad. Let God deal with the things they do, cause hate in your heart will consume you too"
    old hippy wrote: »
    Scroll back up, then and don't be so lazy
    I realise you are angry however your anger is being misdirected. There is nothing malicious about this post. I can't find the part which persecutes any poster here for being gay. The poster was responding to the previous comment about moving past those things they find offensive and moving on with their life. Whether you feel that is the right thing to do or not is your own perogative but in this instance the post merely relates to that. This is a poster empathising with gay people who have been persecuted.


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    #126
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    ashers222 wrote: »
    I realise you are angry however your anger is being misdirected. There is nothing malicious about this post. I can't find the part which persecutes any poster here for being gay. The poster was responding to the previous comment about moving past those things they find offensive and moving on with their life. Whether you feel that is the right thing to do or not is your own perogative but in this instance the post merely relates to that. This is a poster empathising with gay people who have been persecuted.

    By bringing in a fairy tale deity who dominates the Old Testament by hating & smiting sodomites?

    Puhhhlease. :rolleyes:


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    #127
    ashers222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭ashers222


    ok, I give up. I'm sure Allah will know what to do.


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    #128
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    ashers222 wrote: »
    ok, I give up. I'm sure Allah will know what to do.

    You're quite obsessed with mixing threads, ain't ya?

    Can't you see the difficulty with someone telling gay people not to get hassled by homphobia because "god" will deal with it?

    Or are you being wilfully obtuse?


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    #129
    ashers222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭ashers222


    old hippy wrote: »
    You're quite obsessed with mixing threads, ain't ya?

    Can't you see the difficulty with someone telling gay people not to get hassled by homphobia because "god" will deal with it?

    Or are you being wilfully obtuse?
    yeah whatever.


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    #130
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    ashers222 wrote: »
    yeah whatever.

    Can't you see the difficulty with someone telling gay people not to get hassled by homphobia because "god" will deal with it?

    It's a simple question, really.


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    #131
    wonderfulname
    Registered Users Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    1Zred, watch your tone

    old hippy and ashers, take it to PM

    Can we drag this thread back on course please?


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    #132
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    wonderfulname wrote: »
    1Zred, watch your tone

    old hippy and ashers, take it to PM

    Can we drag this thread back on course please?

    Taking the piss, relax


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    #133
    wonderfulname
    Registered Users Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    1ZRed wrote: »

    Taking the piss, relax

    I am aware, no more please. If you want to discuss it further then PM.


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    #134
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    wonderfulname wrote: »
    I am aware, no more please. If you want to discuss it further then PM.
    This a completely serious forum, no bother.


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    #135
    jaffacakesyum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    old hippy wrote: »
    Can't you see the difficulty with someone telling gay people not to get hassled by homphobia because "god" will deal with it?

    It's a simple question, really.

    Ok you REALLY need to lighten up. The poster was not preaching or belitting gay people. One mention of God in here and you're going apesh1t about religion persecuting gays?? You do realise people can be religious or spiritual or whatever the hell they like as well as being gay right?

    Fúcking hell, I'm not even religious. I don't believe in God, but I thought you're outburst was a bit ridiculous.


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    #136
    cartell_best
    Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭cartell_best


    old hippy wrote: »
    Don't patronise us with your god bobbins. People need to be made aware of the offence they cause here and now. Not in some non existent afterlife.:mad:

    I just saw your post.... Patronise? What! Your Username lets you down on so many levels! old hippy? Old usually equals aged (but with wisdom), Hippy normally equates to: relaxed, chilled...open to all?!?!?! I feel sad, sad that people like you use titles that are pure and utter contradictions in terms!!!! but use such to disguise an absolute Hypocrite!!!


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    #137
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Folks quit with the sniping

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #138
    bitburger
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭bitburger


    havent read all of this thread but yeah, im 22,I tend to call things gay,even call my mates fag from time to time, most of which i am infact out to, I just really grew up around it being a generic insult so it doesnt really offend me any.


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    #139
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    bitburger wrote: »
    havent read all of this thread but yeah, im 22,I tend to call things gay,even call my mates fag from time to time, most of which i am infact out to, I just really grew up around it being a generic insult so it doesnt really offend me any.


    Out of curiosity, does the history of gay rights interest you?


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    #140
    bitburger
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭bitburger


    not really if im honest, ive seen the movie milk alright but thats about it.


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    #141
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Though not often, I use it and it doesn't bother me. I find myself using it to slag my mates more than anything and calling them gheyboys


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    #142
    bitburger
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭bitburger


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Though not often, I use it and it doesn't bother me. I find myself using it to slag my mates more than anything and calling them gheyboys

    pretty much sums it up for me.


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    #143
    lahalane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    I pretty much agree with the South Park episode about the kids calling the Bikers fags :/ South Park knows me so well...


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    #144
    bitburger
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭bitburger


    haha, i was tempted to post a clip from it here last night. worst thing is i ride a loud motorbike


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    #145
    TP1969
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭TP1969


    I belong to the school where we don't find offence where none is intended and certainly don't take offence if it is intended.

    Particularly when it comes to name calling, I don't understand why anyone of sound mind and judgement would want to engage with someone who is calling them names anyhow.


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    #146
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    TP1969 wrote: »
    I belong to the school where we don't find offence where none is intended and certainly don't take offence if it is intended.

    Particularly when it comes to name calling, I don't understand why anyone of sound mind and judgement would want to engage with someone who is calling them names anyhow.

    Well, it depends, I guess.

    When someone calls you an offensive name and tries to take a swipe at you, turning the other cheek isn't always an option. It might get bruised.


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    #147
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    bitburger wrote: »
    not really if im honest, ive seen the movie milk alright but thats about it.

    You're young and carefree. That's great, truly. I'd love to be that age again but as one gets older and maybe a bit cynical, you start to question things. Like, why should I put up with this? The name calling, the casual insults all become repetitive and tiring.


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    #148
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    old hippy wrote: »
    You're young and carefree. That's great, truly. I'd love to be that age again but as one gets older and maybe a bit cynical, you start to question things. Like, why should I put up with this? The name calling, the casual insults all become repetitive and tiring.

    are you straight?

    if so, maybe you shouldn't be lecturing gay people about how they should feel, and dismissing their opinions based on age...

    if not, you still shouldn't be dismissing opinions based on age.


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    #149
    TP1969
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭TP1969


    old hippy wrote: »
    Well, it depends, I guess.

    When someone calls you an offensive name and tries to take a swipe at you, turning the other cheek isn't always an option. It might get bruised.

    Sure, if you want to find offence, or take offence, thats your decision. My decision is not to find offence, or take it.


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    #150
    shleedance
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭shleedance


    I say gay, queer and ****** all the time. However, my usage of it isn't intended to offend homosexual or bi people. If you find it offensive when someone uses it in a context that isn't directly meant to insult you, then frankly grow up.

    Words have several meanings depending on their context, and such meanings can change over time. "******" is a clear example of that. It means anything from a particular kind of English meatball to a bundle of sticks. It's only recently that it has been used as a term for homosexuals.

    This is all to do with semiotics, in the aspect on how we perceive words based on our cultural learnings. These words are literally meaningless on their own right, merely pixels on a screen, scribbles on paper or sounds from a mouth/speaker. Other cultures would have completely different meanings and connotations with these words.

    Banning these woulds would be fruitless because more words will simply be invented to replace them. Inventing "PC" terms to replace them will eventually become slurs in their own right, due to the wonders of the euphemism threadmill.


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    #151
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    shleedance wrote: »
    If you find it offensive when someone uses it in a context that isn't directly meant to insult you, then frankly grow up.

    Please acquaint yourself with the forum charter - specifically point 14

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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