Refugee Centre for Bettystown? - Mod note Post#70

Chubi

Hi All,

Has anyone heard anything about some ôr all of the refugee centre moving from Mosney to The Bettystown Court Hotel??

May be an off the wall rumour but there has been 24 hour security there for the last while so it looks like something is going on?

Thanks,
Chubi

bitethebullet

This should be moved to the Meath Forum and yeah I heard it too. Lots of folk talking about it.

sallyk28

Just heard it myself and there was ment to be some meeting on last night about stopping it... anybody I am mentioning it to has never heard this but seems to be true... surely we can do something about this??

rogieop

sallyk28 wrote: »

Just heard it myself and there was ment to be some meeting on last night about stopping it... anybody I am mentioning it to has never heard this but seems to be true... surely we can do something about this??

indeed we can!

Re-open mosney and get the big yellow wheel spinning again!

indiewindy

Has Bettystown moved to Louth?

LH2011

Chubi wrote: »

Hi All,

Has anyone heard anything about some ôr all of the refugee centre moving from Mosney to The Bettystown Court Hotel??

May be an off the wall rumour but there has been 24 hour security there for the last while so it looks like something is going on?

Thanks,
Chubi

ah sure it will add a bit of Character to the place

and Bettystown is in Meath BTW....

Mr_Hat

sallyk28 wrote: »

e... surely we can do something about this??

Maybe you can form a angry mob and chase them out with sticks.

What exactly is your issue with refugees?

Fingers Mcginty

'tis a load of me bollix...same type of rumour was circulated a few years ago about a load of Asylumers taking up lodgings in the Village Hotel.
In sayin that there are security signs around the kip. Hopefully there'll be a demolishing crew arriving sometime soon, That poxy kip of a hotel has been an eyesore since day 1. Horrible looking hole of a place. :mad:

Quality

So who started the rumours?

Can't see it happening personally that hotel is in bits inside.
It's damp and musty, would take weeks to clean up and get ready for any inhabitants


Next thing it will be larry Murphy moving into the hotel

tweety76

It is all rumor.
The security has been in place in the hotel for months, it must be something to do with insurance.
The lease is not up for a couple of months. But Bernnan's who had the lease are not renewing.
Personally I think it was a good facility for the area and gives a nice buzz to the town especially in the summer months. I hope it is reopened.

AFAIK to change its use from hotel to different resedential purpose requires planning permission and there is none currently being sought for the hotel.

Jammygit123

It has been confirmed by the builders in the Bettystown court hotel at the minute ,that they are there to modify it as all at Mosney will be moving to it.
This is a total disgrace that residents in the area are not being notified about a refugee centre being set up in their village.

10green bottles

It's more shocking:eek: that Bettystown has moved to Louth without anybody notifying the good people off the 'Wee' that this has happened.

Away off now to your own forum and take your whine with you:pac:

Lord TSC

I don't get the "Bettystown is in Meath" posts. If you've got a problem, then don't click the topic again or mark it and move on.

Meanwhile, while I live in Louth, I also live pretty close to Bettystown and would have missed this had it gone to the Meath board, so I'm interested to read whats happening...

10green bottles

^^^^^Relax bro and loosen your bra,we jest,we jest :pac:

Biggins

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

...Meanwhile, while I live in Louth, I also live pretty close to Bettystown and would have missed this had it gone to the Meath board, so I'm interested to read whats happening...

Same here - if only for the fact that a relative used to work for 15+ years in Mosney (retired in December) and kept me informed of some of the shannigans that went on up there.
There is a lot of fiction about the place - but there is also a lot of truth (and stuff unknown too) about Mosney also.

MugMugs

Biggins wrote: »

There is a lot of fiction about the place - but there is also a lot of truth (and stuff unknown too) about Mosney also.

...............................like ?

Jelly2

Other places in Ireland have had refugee centres, so why all the fuss about Bettystown? It's not the end of the world for it.

zef

No matter what race, nationality, colour or county of origin , we are all people and need somewhere to live.
If people bitch about asylum seekers / 'dole heads' etc, and 'all they're getting', why don't they try swapping places with them for a little while and see how *sweet* their lives really are.

nc6000

So, is this just another rumour or is it actually happening?

Biggins

nc6000 wrote: »

So, is this just another rumour or is it actually happening?

Probably just rumour, then again, they shifted a good lot according to some Balbriggian residents, up that area too.
Whatever happens, if it happens, it will be done quietly as possible - and indeed, they have to live somewhere more normal if they are to better integrate with Irish society.

Quality

Biggins, I dont see how living in a hotel is normal?

Jelly2

It would be asylum seekers who would be moved anyway, wouldn't it? Not refugees.

Biggins

Quality wrote: »

Biggins, I dont see how living in a hotel is normal?

Debatable!
The current Michael Noonan (for personal reasons concerning his wife - RIP) lived out of a hotel this last few years.
I'm sure many do.
...Besides its more living in a normal situation than just living in an enclosed camp out in the country?

Quality

Biggins wrote: »

Debatable!
The current Michael Noonan (for personal reasons concerning his wife - RIP) lived out of a hotel this last few years.
I'm sure many do.
...Besides its more living in a normal situation than just living in an enclosed camp out in the country?

Well I think this country has had enough problems sticking its unemployed, poor and vunerable into high rise buildings.

I am sure Mr Noonan's stay was comfortable in the hotel of his choice.

Whereas a number of familys living in a hotel does not make sense, where are they suppossed to wash their clothes? In their bath tubs?
Hang the clothes out the windows?

I am sure this has to be a rumour, there is no way that this stupid idea could be for real

Biggins

Quality wrote: »

Well I think this country has had enough problems sticking its unemployed, poor and vunerable into high rise buildings.

Well I suspect it hasn't stopped them before?

Quality wrote: »

...there is no way that this stupid idea could be for real

This is Ireland - our previous governments has been many times stupid!

MugMugs

MugMugs wrote: »

Biggins wrote: »

There is a lot of fiction about the place - but there is also a lot of truth (and stuff unknown too) about Mosney also.

...............................like ?

Are you going to ignore the question on your cryptic statement?

Fingers Mcginty

Saw a load of young kids climbing the scaffolding of the ghostly estate behind the Bettystown Court hotel the other day. Gonna be a bad accident there...maybe that's what the security's for?

Biggins

MugMugs wrote: »

Are you going to ignore the question on your cryptic statement?

I will just say that there a a number of very decent people staying on the camp - and not use the forum to just 'bash' those that are staying there or any section of them that are ethnically different.

Jammygit123

tweety76 wrote: »

It is all rumor.
The security has been in place in the hotel for months, it must be something to do with insurance.
The lease is not up for a couple of months. But Bernnan's who had the lease are not renewing.
Personally I think it was a good facility for the area and gives a nice buzz to the town especially in the summer months. I hope it is reopened.

AFAIK to change its use from hotel to different resedential purpose requires planning permission and there is none currently being sought for the hotel.[/Quote


I have spoken to some property surveyors and they have advised me that they would not require planning permission for change of residential purposes and the people of the area do not have to be notified of what is happening at the hotel. the use would only be temporary, however temporary can be many many years.
Basically we have no say in the matter.

whatde

Chubi wrote: »

Hi All,

Has anyone heard anything about some ôr all of the refugee centre moving from Mosney to The Bettystown Court Hotel??

May be an off the wall rumour but there has been 24 hour security there for the last while so it looks like something is going on?

Thanks,
Chubi

spoke to a friend who lives in the apartments next to the hotel. the refugees are moving in this monday/tuesday. what can we do to stop this i live in bettystown. i didnt move out here and pay a whopper of a mortgage for this to be set up our door steps.i AM VERY CONCERNED

whatde

Biggins wrote: »

Probably just rumour, then again, they shifted a good lot according to some Balbriggian residents, up that area too.
Whatever happens, if it happens, it will be done quietly as possible - and indeed, they have to live somewhere more normal if they are to better integrate with Irish society.

WHAT ARE YOU ON MAN

whatde

Jelly2 wrote: »

Other places in Ireland have had refugee centres, so why all the fuss about Bettystown? It's not the end of the world for it.

WHERE DO YOU LIVE????
IS THERE A REFUGEE CAMP ON YOUR DOOR STEP??
MOSNEY IS THE BIGGEST REFUGEE CENTER IN EUROPE
IT IS HOLDING AROUND 700+ REFUGEES. THAT'S MORE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ANY ESTATE IN BETTYSTOWN.SO WAKE UP HIPPY MAN. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS FOR ALL BETTYSTOWN/JULIANSTOWN/LAYTOWN/MORNINGTON RESIDENCES.LAST YEAR THE NIGERIANS WERE ON LAYTOWN BEACH AND CAUSED MURDER WITH THE LOCALS(AND THEY WEREN'T REFUGEES)I AM VERY VERY CONCERNED FOR THE WELFARE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS :mad::mad:

whatde

:mad:

zef wrote: »

No matter what race, nationality, colour or county of origin , we are all people and need somewhere to live.
If people bitch about asylum seekers / 'dole heads' etc, and 'all they're getting', why don't they try swapping places with them for a little while and see how *sweet* their lives really are.

Oddjob

whatde wrote: »

WHERE DO YOU LIVE????
IS THERE A REFUGEE CAMP ON YOUR DOOR STEP??
MOSNEY IS THE BIGGEST REFUGEE CENTER IN EUROPE
IT IS HOLDING AROUND 700+ REFUGEES. THAT'S MORE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ANY ESTATE IN BETTYSTOWN.SO WAKE UP HIPPY MAN. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS FOR ALL BETTYSTOWN/JULIANSTOWN/LAYTOWN/MORNINGTON RESIDENCES.LAST YEAR THE NIGERIANS WERE ON LAYTOWN BEACH AND CAUSED MURDER WITH THE LOCALS(AND THEY WEREN'T REFUGEES)I AM VERY VERY CONCERNED FOR THE WELFARE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS :mad::mad:

That's you banned, these forums are not fond of anything that might be slightly contentious, throw in asylum seekers and you're gone.

whatde

spoke to a friend who lives in the apartments next to the hotel. the refugees are moving in this monday/tuesday into the bettystown court hotel. i didnt move out here and pay a whopper of a mortgage for this to be set up our door steps.i AM VERY CONCERNED
WHAT CAN WE DO ?

whatde

Oddjob wrote: »

That's you banned, these forums are not fond of anything that might be slightly contentious, throw in asylum seekers and you're gone.

"THROW IN ASYLUM SEEKERS" SOUNDS CONTENTIOUS TO ME

Jammygit123

whatde wrote: »

spoke to a friend who lives in the apartments next to the hotel. the refugees are moving in this monday/tuesday into the bettystown court hotel. i didnt move out here and pay a whopper of a mortgage for this to be set up our door steps.i AM VERY CONCERNED
WHAT CAN WE DO ?

I emailed our local council representative Sirena Campbell who could not answer yes or no to the decision to move the residents of Mosney to the Bettystown Court Hotel. She has advised me that she has requested an answer from the minister.
I am very surprised to hear that even local councillors have not been made aware of the situation.
I will update you with her response when I get it.

This is an utter disgrace that local residents were not consulted on this decision. Whoever gave the green light on this should come to a public meeting with the local residents wereto explain the rationale behind the move.

Oddjob

Jammygit123 wrote: »

I emailed our local council representative Sirena Campbell who could not answer yes or no to the decision to move the residents of Mosney to the Bettystown Court Hotel. She has advised me that she has requested an answer from the minister.
I am very surprised to hear that even local councillors have not been made aware of the situation.
I will update you with her response when I get it.

This is an utter disgrace that local residents were not consulted on this decision. Whoever gave the green light on this should come to a public meeting with the local residents wereto explain the rationale behind the move.

The local residents weren't consulted? Why would they be consulted, they're hardly going to agree.

PseudoFamous

Oddjob wrote: »

The local residents weren't consulted? Why would they be consulted, they're hardly going to agree.

Exactly. No one wants 700 asylum seekers and whatever social problems they may cause on their doorstep. Which is why we need to process them either out of the country or into society faster.

zef

Whatde- I am female, for your information.
The 'old' ireland is gone, and i for one am not sorry. It's good to have a multi-cultural mix in society, pity there are so many xenophobes like you around.
Bottom line, we are all people, we all have the same needs and desires for our families. To be fed, warm, and safe. Why would you want to deny that to a fellow human being who has never wronged you?

Biggins

whatde wrote: »

WHAT ARE YOU ON MAN

Its not "Caps Lock" - thats for sure!

nc6000

This must just be a hoax. I went past there a few times over the weekend and there wasn't much activity around the place.

whatde

nc6000 wrote: »

This must just be a hoax. I went past there a few times over the weekend and there wasn't much activity around the place.

Tats why they are being moved in on a week day so majority of people who be around the weekend wont see them as they are probably in out of the rain or at work.im going down that way in about an hour i will pot then with any update.

whatde

whatde wrote: »

:mad:

how about you swap with them or even better give the hotel to the homeless men and women of ireland who have been evicted out of thier homes because they couldnt keep up mortgage repayments. and on the top floor make room for the battered wives of ireland. we have our own serious problems. by the way i like bob marley too I am not racist,

whatde

Oddjob wrote: »

The local residents weren't consulted? Why would they be consulted, they're hardly going to agree.

SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE WE COME ! IF THE PEOPLE DONT WANT SOMETHING IN THEIR AREA , WELL, IS IT NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT OUR BASIC RIGHT AS CITIZENS OF OUR GREAT NATION THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO VOTE ON LOCAL ISSUES SUCH AS THIS?

whatde

zef wrote: »

Whatde- I am female, for your information.
The 'old' ireland is gone, and i for one am not sorry. It's good to have a multi-cultural mix in society, pity there are so many xenophobes like you around.
Bottom line, we are all people, we all have the same needs and desires for our families. To be fed, warm, and safe. Why would you want to deny that to a fellow human being who has never wronged you?

MULTI CULTURAL MIX??
I AM LIKE A STRANGER IN MY OWN TOWN!
THERE ARE TOO MANY NON NATIONS LIVING IN IRELAND.
SINCE WHEN DOES A TAKE OVER OF NON NATIONALS IN CERTAIN AREAS INVOLVE A MIX?I WAS THE ONLY IRISH PERSON AT MY PETROL STATION THE OTHER DAY IN A Q OF SIX . AND THIS IS THE CASE EVERYWHERE NOW.
WE AR5E A SMALL NATION AND ARE UNABLE TO SUSTAIN THE INFLUX
XENOPHOBE? VICE VERSA

nc6000

Can you give the caps a rest please?

zef

"by the way i like bob marley too I am not racist, "
"I WAS THE ONLY IRISH PERSON AT MY PETROL STATION THE OTHER DAY IN A Q OF SIX . AND THIS IS THE CASE EVERYWHERE NOW.

It's good you like Bob Marley, fair play! You are obviously not a racist then, my mistake.
I'd be careful at them petrol stations tho, maybe bring a few Irish friends along to even out the numbers next time.

Nibs05

Please leave racism out, keep them opinions to yourselfs.

Back to the topic, I have lived in bettystown for over 20 years and I got to know a lot of people in the area, there are a lot of rumours going around the area at the moment, these are only rumours but it is the understanding that this property and the hole site incuding tesco is under Nama ownership. The government want to use the hotel and finish the apartments for refuge status. It is only a rumour but driving past every day there is no sign of any activity in the building, I really think this is a rumour and I'll believe it when I see people moving in.

TheTaker

Last Sunday week there were protests outside the hotel. This seems to be more than rumour and simply waiting to believe it "when you see people moving in" will be too late. I too live in Bettystown a number of years and paid over the odds for my house and am extremely frustrated and annoyed that our government could try sneek this past us. Of course we woudn't agree to have our community influxed with refugees but damn we are entitled to know what is happening in our area. I also know a lot of people who own apartments beside the hotel and have already put up with a lot of distress with Pat Neville builders.

I urge all Bettystown occupants to contact the local coucillors and demand an answer to this. I have done same and will update when I get a response, either way.

Nibs05

TheTaker wrote: »

Last Sunday week there were protests outside the hotel. This seems to be more than rumour and simply waiting to believe it "when you see people moving in" will be too late. I too live in Bettystown a number of years and paid over the odds for my house and am extremely frustrated and annoyed that our government could try sneek this past us. Of course we woudn't agree to have our community influxed with refugees but damn we are entitled to know what is happening in our area. I also know a lot of people who own apartments beside the hotel and have already put up with a lot of distress with Pat Neville builders.

I urge all Bettystown occupants to contact the local coucillors and demand an answer to this. I have done same and will update when I get a response, either way.

I've tried to contact local councillors aswell but with no success, I don't really know what to make of situation. I'm going to try and set up a meeting ASAP for local and invite the politicians.