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*Ahem* slight rant

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    #152
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Some would argue the emergency shelters are actually better than what they had before.
    Only those trying to create an alternative reality to fit their worldview.

    Seriously, Haiti is not better off, though maybe you'd suggest the 230,000 men women and children that died, are?


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    #153
    Oranage2
    Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Anyway guys, im not liking the way this thread is going. Nothing against anyone just i put too much time in it.

    I shall leave this thread and forum for a while to the disappoimoment of some im sure :)


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    #154
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


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    #155
    Sonics2k
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I cant remember you're question but if its why do I believe in God?


    I feel very blessed.

    Like how many people are poor, how many people dont have access to clean water, how many people are in bad health?

    I'm none of those things, I live a good life, it could be better but it could be a hell of a lot worse, and for this reason I'm thankful.

    Why doesnt God make everybody rich and happy so?

    Again I dont know, perhaps God left the running of the world in the hands of man and this is the result.

    Why do natural disasters happen?

    NOt all disasters are bad, also humans arent the only species on earth. When floods happen, some species prosper while others dont, it's the circle of life, and we as humans have to live as one in perfect harmony with nature.

    Also take Haiti, I remember seeing an interview and a woman said that the earthquake was like a blessing, many died but the attention and money poured into it after majorly improved the standard of living there.

    See, it's stuff like this that put's me off the religious.

    Life is good for you, so clearly God loves you and he exists. And all the poor people well, they're just being 'tested' aren't they.

    Bloody well guarantee that if the situations swapped for a while your faith would dwindle to sod all.

    You live in comfort because you were born in the right country, that is all.


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    #156
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    What does the country a person was born in have anything to do with their beliefs.


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    #157
    Sarky
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    Pretty much everything. Do you think you'd be Catholic if you were born and raised in Saudi Arabia?


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    #158
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Galvasean wrote: »
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    Not funny at all


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    #159
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Northclare wrote: »
    What does the country a person was born in have anything to do with their beliefs.

    The belief system which you are indoctrinated to follow is most likely defined by your geographic location. For example, if I were born in Iran, I would most likely have been raised under some branch of Islam.


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    #160
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    I would be into Sufism :)


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    #161
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Northclare wrote: »
    What does the country a person was born in have anything to do with their beliefs.
    Heard of many atheists in Afghanistan?


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    #162
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Northclare wrote: »
    What does the country a person was born in have anything to do with their beliefs.

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    #163
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Northclare wrote: »
    What does the country a person was born in have anything to do with their beliefs.

    Whichever religion rules the roost gets first dibs. For example in Ireland the schools have for a long time been run by the Roman Catholic Church who have made sure that their religion was thought as fact. Until quite recently anyone who questioned said 'facts' got the crap beaten out of them.
    Jump over to Saudi Arabia where Muslims are in charge. Kids are thought that Islam is true from the word go so they grow up to be Muslims.
    Northclare wrote: »
    Not funny at all

    Orange2 seemed to like it.


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    #164
    sephir0th
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    Northclare wrote: »
    What does the country a person was born in have anything to do with their beliefs.

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    #165
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Looks like atheists don't exist on that map thanks for the proof lads :)


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    #166
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Oh dear.


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    #167
    Insect Overlord
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    Northclare wrote: »
    Looks like atheists don't exist on that map thanks for the proof lads :)

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    #168
    iBeast
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    I think all atheists are just grumpy wasters looking for attention.


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    #169
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    iBeast wrote: »
    I think all atheists are just grumpy wasters looking for attention.

    Says the guy who went out of his way to go into an Atheism & Agnosticism forum to say that..

    edit: how about that Stephen Hawking guy huh? What a waster! :rolleyes:


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    #170
    Barr125
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Barr125


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    So what you're saying is that I didnt actually use any of those words.

    What definition of God did you see to say he's 'all loving?'

    And again maybe the God you dont believe in is all those things but the God I believe in I just cant say that is true or untrue.

    Then please, define what you believe ''God'' is in your opinion so everyone here can use the correct terms. You don't think your God is all-loving, what else do think he is/is not. It'll save everyone hassle.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    And lets say God didnt exist? easy right for you, then how can you explain why earth has oxygen, and no other planet around us has? That's if you believe in other planets, maybe no other planet exists but yet you believe there are because somebody told you.

    Some things are because they are, I cant explain it, I dont know why God does these things, maybe there is no God but what harm is it doing you if you I believe in something?

    I literally banged my head against the keyboard at that. One word: Photosynthesis! You know, the thing plants do?! Just because you can't explain something, does not mean it already hasn't been.

    And of course there are other planets! I can give you a fecking telescope and you can see them for yourself, not just because a man in a lab coat told us there was. You may as well have said there's no Moon while you were at it. -.-

    I'm sorry if I'm coming off as crass, but you're just being ignorant yourself, even if by accident. If you're going to make a statement like ''Explain how oxygen on this planet.'' then have some evidence to back it up YOUR explanation, and not just ''my invisible friend did it.''
    You seem particularly overly non-religious, have you got 100% proof of no god or do you blindly believe what some scientist tells you?

    Burden of proof lies with those that make the statement, ergo ''I believe in God'' Again, you are a person that does not understand that Atheism is effectively, the default position of belief and non-belief.

    And as for ''blindly believing what some scientist tells you?'', nearly every single thing that science has provided us, can be tested by independent observers. I believe scientists when they say Gravity exists. I can't see it, touch, taste or smell it, but I CAN test it. I can pick something up and observe gravity working. And if tomorrow, a scientist came with an alternative explanation as to why things fall back to the ground and he had concrete, repeatable experiments that prove his hypothesis, then we would revise the Law of Gravity. Simples.
    Now I know it's 'cool' and 'hip' not to believe in ice cream but deep down I think you believe in ice cream and would really like some ice cream.
    I actually take a large amount of offence from this. I'm an atheist and yet I still have not told my own parents because of what I have heard from other atheists who told their families, and were disowned and do not speak to them. We don't choose to be atheists because it's ''hip'' or ''cool''. We do it because we have some ****ing common sense.

    And no, deep down, I really don't need an imaginary friend who will make all my dreams come true if I wish hard enough.

    So I'll leave you with this statement, I always finds works well: I don't believe in your God, for the same reasons you don't believe in Zeus, Apollo or Ra.

    That's my rant over! :D


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    #171
    Calibos
    Registered Users Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I am reminded of a quote by Bertrand Russell
    The problem with this world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt


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    #172
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Calibos wrote: »
    I am reminded of a quote by Bertrand Russell

    Where did you find that quote? :pac: :pac:


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    #173
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Nice one lads, a map of the world with no atheists.

    Was that an own goal ?


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    #174
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Northclare wrote: »
    Nice one lads, a map of the world with no atheists.

    Was that an own goal ?

    You realise that comment is still stupid? It doesn't improve with repetition.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #175
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Northclare wrote: »
    Nice one lads, a map of the world with no atheists.

    Was that an own goal ?
    Clearly we all live in Antarctica.


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    #176
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Cheer up its only a comment.

    I would never get emotionally attached to comments on forums as its a sign of being over codependence.


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    #177
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    Dades wrote: »
    Northclare wrote: »
    Nice one lads, a map of the world with no atheists.

    Was that an own goal ?
    Clearly we all live in Antarctica.

    LOL Come down and Join us its nice and warm down here :)


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    #178
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Northclare wrote: »
    LOL Come down and Join us its nice and warm down here :)
    Uh, down where now? On the turtle?


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    #179
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    No I'm hanging onto a sunfish I hope it knows where its going.

    I seen a few pass hanging onto Parrotfish alright :)

    They keep repeating themselves ;)


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    #180
    Barr125
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Barr125


    Dades wrote: »
    Uh, down where now? On the turtle?

    No, think he means Hell, considering that's where we're all apparently going. Least it'll be warmer than where we are now.


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    #181
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Northclare wrote: »
    I seen a few pass hanging onto Parrotfish alright :)

    They keep repeating themselves ;)
    I suspect even a fish can distinguish between the Arctic and the Antarctic.


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