Secret Diary of a Dublin Call Girl

neuro-praxis

http://secretdiaryofadublincallgirl.wordpress.com/

This was linked to by JuliusCaesar in the other thread currently running about prostitution ("Would you?"), but I felt it is such compelling reading for Irish women that it deserved a re-post here.

panda100

Her blog piece on the review section is soo spot on! Why can't this get published in a book. 100% more accurate than that nonsense book thats on the shelves at the moment.

Hollypop

I'm watching a similar program on Netflicks. It's fantastic. The uk one.

ted1

Haha, different thing. The blog is of a Dublin girl.

CarMe

Oh wow so far i think it's a brilliant blog but can someone tell me how to read it from the beginning and not from most recent post?

Acacia

I clicked on the link from the other thread and ended up abandoning the thread completely to read this girl's blog. She's a very good writer and what she wrote about has stayed with me for days. Very interesting and sad- it made feel guilty for being rather complacent about this issue.

Stripey Cat

I haven't read every entry on the blog, but from I can gather she wasn't forced in prostitution, was she? Maybe I missed something.

fatmammycat

Stripey Cat wrote: »

I haven't read every entry on the blog, but from I can gather she wasn't forced in prostitution, was she? Maybe I missed something.

So what, she doesn't say she was 'forced', in fact she writes very well of her reason to work as she does.

Fenian Army

How do we know it is legit?

Please don't read anything into the question and take it at face value.

krankykitty

We don't.. But in that case, how do we know when any anonymous account of anything is legit? Including that book out at the moment "Between the Sheets" which the blog talks about. Does it matter? It's another point of view, or experience that I'm sure some sex workers would share.

Babybuff

great read, great writer..inspirational.

BarackPyjama

krankykitty wrote: »

Does it matter?

Yeah, I'd say whether it's fact or fiction does matter quite a lot. It's an interesting read though... but I'm a bit skeptical about its authenticity.

krankykitty

What parts of it do you doubt, just curious?

Even if its a complete work of fiction I'm sure the issues that the blog raises could possibly be what other sex workers experience on a day to day basis? Or at least some of them.

BarackPyjama

krankykitty wrote: »

What parts of it do you doubt, just curious?

Well the fact that she's essentially painting the majority of her customers as sex-crazed, violent and depraved lunatics for one.

I'd imagine that the majority of men who use prostitutes are probably sad and lonely middle-aged individuals who can't get sex elsewhere. Rather than being filthy, depraved and violent sex monsters. I'm open to being wrong about that but I'd assumed that was the case and that's where the majority of the demand for prostitution came from?

krankykitty wrote: »

Even if its a complete work of fiction I'm sure the issues that the blog raises could possibly be what other sex workers experience on a day to day basis? Or at least some of them.

Probably. As I said, it's an interesting read but I do get the whiff of an 'agenda' from it. There seems to be a fair amount of anti-prostitution stuff going around in the media so it wouldn't surprise me - plus her articles only go back as far as January 14th. The timing is pretty coincidental.

Piste

Whether it's authentic or not, this blog is absolutely heartbreaking.

The_Thing

BarackPyjama wrote: »

filthy, depraved and violent sex monsters.....

If you want to see what a filthy, depraved and violent sex monster is then look at Larry Murphy, as far as we know not one of the women he is suspected of killing was a prostitute. There wouldn't be a single woman in Ireland selling sex of her own free will if all the clients were anything like Murphy. If you want a truer picture of a typical client of street workers then look at the profiles of the men arrested in Limerick.

BarackPyjama wrote: »

...but I do get the whiff of an 'agenda' from it.
...her articles only go back as far as January 14th. The timing is pretty coincidental.

I am in no doubt that there is an agenda and that whiff you get is wafting all the way from Ruhama HQ.

And the timing is not accidental at all as the public consultation on prostitution is to begin shortly.

sambuka41

At worst it is a combination of several people's experiences. Personally I find her account more believable than the Between the Sheets.

BarackPyjama

The_Thing wrote: »

I am in no doubt that there is an agenda and that whiff you get is wafting all the way from Ruhama HQ.

And the timing is not accidental at all as the public consultation on prostitution is to begin shortly.

Aye, that was my suspicion alright. The piece is very aggressively written and the pseudo-psychology the author uses to explain her entry into the world of escorting, as well as to admonish her own responsibility and demonise men who use prostitutes, is pretty questionable IMO.

Personally, I'm not all that interested in seeing prostitution legalised. There are arguments for and against I suppose but, by and large, I can't see much good turning Dublin into a new Amsterdam. I just wish that there could be an open and honest debate about the issue, ideally one which involved actual sex workers who do so of their own free will, instead of all of this propaganda, smoke and mirrors.

The_Thing

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Aye, that was my suspicion alright. The piece is very aggressively written and the pseudo-psychology the author uses to explain her entry into the world of escorting, as well as to admonish her own responsibility and demonise men who use prostitutes, is pretty questionable IMO.

Personally, I'm not all that interested in seeing prostitution legalised. There are arguments for and against I suppose but, by and large, I can't see much good turning Dublin into a new Amsterdam. I just wish that there could be an open and honest debate about the issue, ideally one which involved actual sex workers who do so of their own free will, instead of all of this propaganda, smoke and mirrors.

The way I see it is this:

[1] Human trafficking and forced prostitution is already illegal in Ireland.

[2] Pimping is already illegal in Ireland.

[3] Paedophilia \ Underage sex is already illegal in Ireland.

The only thing left is sex for money between consenting adults and Ruhama - having been founded by nuns no less - now want to impose their morals on everyone else whether it be workable or not.

krudler

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Aye, that was my suspicion alright. The piece is very aggressively written and the pseudo-psychology the author uses to explain her entry into the world of escorting, as well as to admonish her own responsibility and demonise men who use prostitutes, is pretty questionable IMO.

Personally, I'm not all that interested in seeing prostitution legalised. There are arguments for and against I suppose but, by and large, I can't see much good turning Dublin into a new Amsterdam. I just wish that there could be an open and honest debate about the issue, ideally one which involved actual sex workers who do so of their own free will, instead of all of this propaganda, smoke and mirrors.

does she give a reason why she became a prositute? havent read the entire blog just a few of the entries

Babybuff

krudler wrote: »

does she give a reason why she became a prositute? havent read the entire blog just a few of the entries

said she had been raped at 16 and after that (with the loss of self esteem) found herself mixed up an older man (30's) who would willingly pay her to perform acts but not actually have sex. She felt it gave her a sense of self worth,that someone was willing to value her albeit in a monetary way.

strandroad

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Well the fact that she's essentially painting the majority of her customers as sex-crazed, violent and depraved lunatics for one.

She must have had hundreds if not thousands of punters, probably the degrading ones are the ones that stay in mind. She seems to be writing quite a lot, she might get round to describing "daddies and uncles" next. Also, even a relatively well-mannered customer may feel degrading for one reason or another (personal hygiene for example, or not sticking to the bargain re: choice of acts).

I don't have the feeling that she is aligned with Ruhama; her conclusions might be similar but in my opinion she is coming from a different place. She seems very sharp and in a way very damaged; I hope she's on the mend.

strandroad

krudler wrote: »

does she give a reason why she became a prositute? havent read the entire blog just a few of the entries

She seems to have been abused by a sort of a paedophile ring when she was a teen; an older man started paying her for some services and renting her out to his associates. She had been raped before and so was vulnerable to this grooming and then abuse. Prostitution was a continuation of this but she was not forced into it, she seems to have amassed a lot of issues as a result of this earlier abuse.

BarackPyjama

krudler wrote: »

does she give a reason why she became a prositute? havent read the entire blog just a few of the entries

Not a credible one. She claims that because she was abused by an older man as a teenager, it was easy for her to transition into prostitution - despite making efforts, and succeeding, to get that man out of her life.

Then she describes a kind of multiple personality disorder to explain why she continued with the profession. Then, by the time she got around to writing her articles, she seems to have found out the truth of the situation - that she, all the while, was a completely innocent victim and that her customers were mostly evil manipulators and abusers of women. These are not the thoughts of a woman who willfully entered into prostitution as a grown adult - and very much the same line that Ruhama are pushing.

Having read her articles a little more, I have definitely come to the conclusion that this isn't authentic. In one comment, she calls the author of 'Between the Sheets' a 'stupid f**king bint'. Pretty incredible. What's even more pathetic than men visiting prostitutes is that someone would be such a fantasist as to make up such a story.

28064212

mhge wrote: »

I don't have the feeling that she is aligned with Ruhama; her conclusions might be similar but in my opinion she is coming from a different place. She seems very sharp and in a way very damaged; I hope she's on the mend.

The very first post on the blog has a "Ruhama" tag

Babybuff

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Not a credible one. She claims that because she was abused by an older man as a teenager, it was easy for her to transition into prostitution - despite making efforts, and succeeding, to get that man out of her life.

Then she describes a kind of multiple personality disorder to explain why she continued with the profession. Then, by the time she got around to writing her articles, she seems to have found out the truth of the situation - that she, all the while, was a completely innocent victim and that her customers were mostly evil manipulators and abusers of women. These are not the thoughts of a woman who willfully entered into prostitution as a grown adult - and very much the same line that Ruhama are pushing.

Having read her articles a little more, I have definitely come to the conclusion that this isn't authentic. In one comment, she calls the author of 'Between the Sheets' a 'stupid f**king bint'. Pretty incredible. What's even more pathetic than men visiting prostitutes is that someone would be such a fantasist as to make up such a story.

actually as someone who has survived abuse I find her words resonate with me. It's not difficult to understand why she went where she did in her head, the fact is that for many women our experience of men is one which only values women in terms of their sexual gratification and in order to feel "worthy" as it were, it's easy to sustain this kind of thinking.

krudler

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Not a credible one. She claims that because she was abused by an older man as a teenager, it was easy for her to transition into prostitution - despite making efforts, and succeeding, to get that man out of her life.

Then she describes a kind of multiple personality disorder to explain why she continued with the profession. Then, by the time she got around to writing her articles, she seems to have found out the truth of the situation - that she, all the while, was a completely innocent victim and that her customers were mostly evil manipulators and abusers of women. These are not the thoughts of a woman who willfully entered into prostitution as a grown adult - and very much the same line that Ruhama are pushing.

Having read her articles a little more, I have definitely come to the conclusion that this isn't authentic. In one comment, she calls the author of 'Between the Sheets' a 'stupid f**king bint'. Pretty incredible. What's even more pathetic than men visiting prostitutes is that someone would be such a fantasist as to make up such a story.

I was gonna say if she wasnt part of some sex trafficking ring or pimped to pay a debt or something then...well why do it for years willingly, sounds like she had a pretty sh1t experience with men previous to that though (if its genuine)

strandroad

28064212 wrote: »

The very first post on the blog has a "Ruhama" tag

And a "pimps" tag. I doubt she's a pimp, or a nun...

strandroad

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Having read her articles a little more, I have definitely come to the conclusion that this isn't authentic. In one comment, she calls the author of 'Between the Sheets' a 'stupid f**king bint'. Pretty incredible. What's even more pathetic than men visiting prostitutes is that someone would be such a fantasist as to make up such a story.

She has a post on why exactly she finds the book not to be believable, by comparing it with her experience. Might explain the remark quite a bit.

BarackPyjama

mhge wrote: »

She has a post on why exactly she finds the book not to be believable, by comparing it with her experience. Might explain the remark quite a bit.

Her claims of victimisation and her new found sense of wholesomeness and empathy are kind of in conflict with the amount of bile that she spouts towards all and sundry. Which was kind of my point.

I don't think this thread is necessarily about debating whether her writing is genuine of the fantastic ramblings of someone who is very much against the legalisation of prostitution so I won't mention it again. Suffice to say - I don't find it at all convincing.

rainbow kirby

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Suffice to say - I don't find it at all convincing.

We get this, you don't need to keep repeating yourself.

Sacred_git

the girl is a prostitute, she is being paid to provide a service,which would also include faking it? clearly she has a problem with this side of things, maybe she should find a new career. I have no sympathy for anyone in this trade unless of course she was/is forced into it, she needs to do a better job, shes being paid to do so.
And as for the inspirational comment/good read, great writer - you need to wake up!

strandroad

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Her claims of victimisation and her new found sense of wholesomeness and empathy are kind of in conflict with the amount of bile that she spouts towards all and sundry. Which was kind of my point.

I agree; but I think that (assuming that she is a real person) she retains a lot of issues and is not at all healed. Yet, hopefully.
Another factor is that in such a victim-perp thinking, to which she is entitled with her biography, she can very well feel empathy towards perceived victims and still rage towards the perps; she sees the author of the book as an impostor perpetrating the image of prostitution as harmless fun and frolicking, therefore on the side of the perps.

Babybuff

Sacred_git wrote: »

the girl is a prostitute, she is being paid to provide a service,which would also include faking it? clearly she has a problem with this side of things, maybe she should find a new career. I have no sympathy for anyone in this trade unless of course she was/is forced into it, she needs to do a better job, shes being paid to do so.
And as for the inspirational comment/good read, great writer - you need to wake up!

Why? do you not like the idea that the reality of prostitution is very different to what you think it actually is?
We're on different sides of the fence here and tbh the last few posts do sound like they are coming from the punters gate. You need to listen up.

The_Thing

mhge wrote: »

She has a post on why exactly she finds the book not to be believable, by comparing it with her experience. Might explain the remark quite a bit.

Penguin's legal team have said that they believe that "Between The Sheets" is factual, the author was even interviewed by Marian Finucane.

BarackPyjama

Babybuff wrote: »

We're on different sides of the fence here and tbh the last few posts do sound like they are coming from the punters gate.

Are you serious? Anyone who calls BS on these articles is being labeled a 'punter' now? Oh deary me.

Ickle Magoo

Folks, lets not get side tracked from the purpose of the OP. Surely we don't have to reiterate - yet again - the purpose of this forum?

Anyone wanting to discuss the topic from any other perspective are free to start a thread in the appropriate forum.

strandroad

The_Thing wrote: »

Penguin's legal team have said that they believe that "Between The Sheets" is factual, the author was even interviewed by Marian Finucane.

I can't claim I've read the whole book, I browsed through my friend's copy, but the way it felt is that if there was any real story in it at all, it got all sugar coated by some chick-lit ghost writers brought in to help. It's not that I don't believe a sex worker can be happy with her job - but the book was of the champagne happy hooker adventures sort.

neuro-praxis

I'm pretty disappointed with some of the responses here. They seem to be coming from those who don't like having their comfortable notions of what prostitution is like for a woman challenged.

Of course nobody has any way of knowing for certain that it is authentic. However the raw emotion is pretty real and rings true.

I work with men who have been labelled monsters, even in this very thread. Men like Larry Murphy. The reality is they aren't monsters. They are men who started with "small" acts of objectification and got deeper and deeper into depravity. And absolutely all of them used prostitutes. And the language that she references in terms of her abuse and objectification, I have heard echoed by these men.

I also have a person close to me who got into an abusive relationship with a man who coerced her into prostitution. He used her as his own personal sex toy and she went with it out of ignorance and non-existent self-esteem. She thought it meant she was desirable. She has been permanently scarred by this experience. So the psychology of what this blogger allegedly did, while it may seem absurd to someone with healthy and functioning relationships, would not be as uncommon as you think. The person who coerced my friend into prostitution, incidentally, was a GP.

This account struck a deep chord with me. If true, this woman is incredibly brave, and it makes perfect sense to me that she has both restored her life, and in doing so, become intensely angry with her abusers, herself and the punters who paid her for sex. It's the right response.

The_Thing

mhge wrote: »

...she sees the author of the book as an impostor perpetrating the image of prostitution as harmless fun and frolicking, therefore on the side of the perps.

But she has also dismissed Brooke Magnanti AKA Belle de Jour, this woman has a Phd and as such would not fit the "typical profile" of a prostitute that the media portrays.

strandroad

The_Thing wrote: »

But she has also dismissed Brooke Magnanti AKA Belle de Jour

Yes but she does not dismiss her as nonexistent. She critisises her for promoting the image of a fulfilled high class hooker being a typical prostitute and then the film industry for further glamourising it.

this woman has a Phd and as such would not fit the "typical profile" of a prostitute that the media portrays.

... or perhaps "as such would not fit the "typical profile" of a prostitute", full stop. Typical prostitutes don't get TV shows though, that's DCG's point.

Sacred_git

im not looking at if from any pounters perspective, personally i find the whole idea of it a big turn off, i have been to amsterdam many times, looking at the "punters" q'ing up to go in, i find it a big turn off to be with a girl who just fcuked a few men the same day, i dont knoe how men pay for this tbh!

gcgirl

Hollypop wrote: »

I'm watching a similar program on Netflicks. It's fantastic. The uk one.

Billie piper

mrsdewinter

I'm with Rainbow - as a woman, I find DCG all too credible. Far more credible than Belle du Jour

strandroad

gcgirl wrote: »

Originally Posted by Hollypop
I'm watching a similar program on Netflicks. It's fantastic. The uk one.

Billie piper

This is precisely the one DCG critisises. I guess this is what people think the whole business is about, thanks to Belle du Jour...

Badhb

neuro-praxis wrote: »

I'm pretty disappointed with some of the responses here. They seem to be coming from those who don't like having their comfortable notions of what prostitution is like for a woman challenged.

Of course nobody has any way of knowing for certain that it is authentic. However the raw emotion is pretty real and rings true.

I work with men who have been labelled monsters, even in this very thread. Men like Larry Murphy. The reality is they aren't monsters. They are men who started with "small" acts of objectification and got deeper and deeper into depravity. And absolutely all of them used prostitutes. And the language that she references in terms of her abuse and objectification, I have heard echoed by these men.

I also have a person close to me who got into an abusive relationship with a man who coerced her into prostitution. He used her as his own personal sex toy and she went with it out of ignorance and non-existent self-esteem. She thought it meant she was desirable. She has been permanently scarred by this experience. So the psychology of what this blogger allegedly did, while it may seem absurd to someone with healthy and functioning relationships, would not be as uncommon as you think. The person who coerced my friend into prostitution, incidentally, was a GP.

This account struck a deep chord with me. If true, this woman is incredibly brave, and it makes perfect sense to me that she has both restored her life, and in doing so, become intensely angry with her abusers, herself and the punters who paid her for sex. It's the right response.

This is excellent, Neuro praxis.
Had a skim through the blog, blew my mind open. I was very pro sex worker agenda, but this has made me think.

While I still firmly believe there should be decriminalisation, and more importantly laws to protect sex workers, and believe me, I am no ruhama fan, I was forced to consider some stuff from this blog.

There is too much of a grey area here with women who are vulnerable; in the areas of self esteem, experience etc, that can enable the route to sex working even outwith the major horrors of coecion, addiction, tafficking and pimping.

I really had not thought about this. Dublincallgirl's blog really puts this into view.

Since this, I am even wondering about the laissez-faire attitude to porn that I used to hold, assuming its the norm and its ok.

Dublincallgirl is well educated, by her own admission, to masters level.
She is not someone to get lampooned by a right wing organisation, in fact when you spend the time reading her posts, it seems that she really is her own woman with no agenda.

That's just my appraisal of her blogs from her, but must say, having been so vehemently pro sex worker in the past, it has made me question where or what some of them are coming from.
Having said that, I still think there should be legislation in place to protect the sex workers and not the punters.

Eileen_Lang

I hated being a prostitute...I was really horribly abused as a child...and I definatly have PTSD too...which all means that I have also met a lot of other women (and girls ) coming from the same places, with their own, particular, individual reaction and yet I have never come across anyone remotely like her...not just in terms of this curious "compulsive prostitution as self harm" pathology but also in the totally self absorbed inverted relish with which she expresses herself.

I ran it past a psychologist I know and she pointed out that she was also well on her way to working in every single deliberate misconception promoted by the more fanatical aspects of the abolitionists to date.

Personally, I approached it with an open mind, but I cannot find anything believable or identifiable with.

If I were to tell you all I know about how traumatic and devastating prostitution can be, it would not be all about "me, Me, ME" it would mostly be about all the other people I saw, go through various kinds of hell, who didn't have money and supportive friends and family so they could walk away and time, and had to just stay, and make the best of it...and how incredibly brave, and funny and uncomplaining they were, and still are, about that...

...and the compassion and understanding they often (not always - they were not saints) could still find for other people, often better off than themselves.

This woman does not seem to be truly aware of the existance of anyone outside herself...

I have suffered far more abuse than her worse nightmares (even as she tells them) I just hope that if I never come across as self pitying and self indulgernt as that.

...and of course it goes almost without saying that not one word she has said is an adequate excuse for demanding legislation to take away the incomes of women already in fare more hardship than she will ever know.

neuro-praxis

Eileen_Lang wrote: »

I hated being a prostitute...I was really horribly abused as a child...and I definatly have PTSD too...which all means that I have also met a lot of other women (and girls ) coming from the same places, with their own, particular, individual reaction and yet I have never come across anyone remotely like her...not just in terms of this curious "compulsive prostitution as self harm" pathology but also in the totally self absorbed inverted relish with which she expresses herself.

I ran it past a psychologist I know and she pointed out that she was also well on her way to working in every single deliberate misconception promoted by the more fanatical aspects of the abolitionists to date.

Personally, I approached it with an open mind, but I cannot find anything believable or identifiable with.

If I were to tell you all I know about how traumatic and devastating prostitution can be, it would not be all about "me, Me, ME" it would mostly be about all the other people I saw, go through various kinds of hell, who didn't have money and supportive friends and family so they could walk away and time, and had to just stay, and make the best of it...and how incredibly brave, and funny and uncomplaining they were, and still are, about that...

...and the compassion and understanding they often (not always - they were not saints) could still find for other people, often better off than themselves.

This woman does not seem to be truly aware of the existance of anyone outside herself...

I have suffered far more abuse than her worse nightmares (even as she tells them) I just hope that if I never come across as self pitying and self indulgernt as that.

...and of course it goes almost without saying that not one word she has said is an adequate excuse for demanding legislation to take away the incomes of women already in fare more hardship than she will ever know.

I have read and re-read this and want to respond with a measure of objectivity. I googled your username to see where else you are posting and I can't quite nail your position.

There does seem to be a lot of contradiction in what you say, on boards and elsewhere. Your bottom line, appears to be, that you consider yourself an authority on the subject (and perhaps quite rightly so) but on the one hand you say you've had it worse than anyone and on the other you say you've had it easier? Some places you say prostitution was the most horrendous thing you have ever been through and simultaneously that you would lay down your life to keep prostitution alive. So I have no idea how to respond to you because I don't understand where you are coming from.

I think you've been quick to pretty viciously attack this person here: if in fact the Dublin Call Girl person is just a complete fake then it won't make any difference. But consider that she is real. She says herself that she didn't fit the bill in terms of the average experience of a prostitute. I for example have no idea if you are telling the truth about your experience, so I take it at face value. This is the internet, after all.

I think if you can't relate to her that's fair enough. How would you respond to the comments on the blog from other women who claim to have been escorts who do relate to her?

midlandsmissus

Barackpyjama I could guestimate that you have been with a prostitute. Your tone sounds very familiar to a man that I had a conversation with that has been with one. We are never going to win an argument with men who have been with prostitutes because it is too much for them to accept that they have contributed to severely emotionally damaging already damaged women. They need to keep up the fantasy that these are happy women who enjoy sex. When deep down they know that's complete fantasy.

Babybuff

I decided to check out one of these review sites after reading this blog. I'm not sure it would be appropriate to link directly to it under the terms here but last night a poster added a message written "in response to people on a popular Irish message board who were jumping on the band-wagon of mindlessly shaming punters and the Irish escorting industry":

What about the slaves in China and elsewhere working 16 hours a day for €2 or less to manufacture clothing, toys, phones etc., where's the outrage about that? It's non-existent, because we all consumes such items and of course it's not anywhere near as bad because they don't have to do the unthinkable and actually touch something so grotesque as an average Irish man . It's extremely easy for Irish females to sit there and shame their male counterparts who buy sex, as they do not have a clue about how male sexuality works; they simply compare it to their own inferior levels of sexual desire and blindly conclude that those males who do it must be woman-abusers and misogynists.

The real issue here is the massive cultural valuation of casual sex that's inherit in modern Irish men. The fact that a huge proportion of us are willing to pay such outrageous amounts of money for a short period of sexual activity clearly shows that the reasoning behind it is psychologically ingrained and not due to physical desire. When men are subjected to living in an overly sexually stimulated culture in which casual sex is considered a compulsory recreational activity, certain consequences such as increased rates of rape and human trafficking for prostitution are unfortunately going to be inevitable; it's an unavoidable result of the libertarian society people are being compelled to want to have yet not willing to accept the consequences of. Our wise male ancestors of this earth realized and understood that in order for civilization to flourish, sex simply cannot be prevalent outside the context of marriage (or love at the very least). When a society experiences a complete breakdown in traditional gender roles largely due to false feminist propaganda, the romantic connection between the sexes is heavily diminished and male sexuality is left unconsolidated; in contemporary society it largely becomes channeled into pornography and other such forms of media and males and females' prevalent mentality towards sex becomes consistent of 'sex is dirty' type programming. Now, I know what I'm saying is way, way too deep for most Irish people who only like to take the superficial aspects of things into consideration, but deep reasoning is key in all complex issues whether you are blinded of the ability to comprehend it or not.

What's the answer to the question of how to deal with the unfortunate prostitution scenario we have in this country? I'd love to say reverting back to the old monogamous system, where love and passion between men and woman in traditional gender roles was a lot more so the norm and people were truly much happier than they are now, but unfortunately we're far too deep into this mess; technology has moved on and irreversible cultural programming has taken place to make this an impossibility. The solution simply comes down to where the liberal current is taking us: full legalization. It's inevitable and only a matter of time and of course how many women we're willing to let be 'exploited and abused' by evil devils in the meantime. (face of self-righteousness)

tldr: men have sexual needs people (and if the law changes women will be raped and traffiked to accommodate them)

nice.

fatmammycat

neuro-praxis wrote: »

I think you've been quick to pretty viciously attack this person here: if in fact the Dublin Call Girl person is just a complete fake then it won't make any difference. But consider that she is real. She says herself that she didn't fit the bill in terms of the average experience of a prostitute. I for example have no idea if you are telling the truth about your experience, so I take it at face value. This is the internet, after all.

I think if you can't relate to her that's fair enough. How would you respond to the comments on the blog from other women who claim to have been escorts who do relate to her?

Some really great points Neuro- Praxis. I also think DCG is authentic, but Scarlett O'Kelly is not.