Carlow Vs Laois Boundaries

Morf

Shinnie0503 wrote: »

Agree on the choice of DIY shops but what you havent mentioned is the 'locally owned shops'. Doyles Topline (Doyle's of the Shamrock) is a locally owned, local staff, very experienced staff and great value for money. In order for Carlow to remain strong, it is important to shop local.

Doyle's is now in Laois though.

almighty1

Morf wrote: »

Doyle's is now in Laois though.

But still in Carlow town which is what he was referring to.

Morf

almighty1 wrote: »

But still in Carlow town which is what he was referring to.

No, you'll find it's squarely in Laois. It's about 800m over the border. Graiguecullen (which it isn't in either) isn't Carlow Town anyway.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Morf wrote: »

No, you'll find it's squarely in Laois. It's about 800m over the border. Graiguecullen (which it isn't in either) isn't Carlow Town anyway.

Preach, Brother Man!

almighty1

Yes I know its in Laois but still in Carlow Town. :rolleyes:
And its not as if you didnt know that he was referring to the town and not the county.

Haha actually their official address on topline website is .......

Topline Doyles, Shamrock Business Park
Graiguecullen, Co Carlow
Phone: 059 - 9131847


http://topline.ie/#carlow

Morf

almighty1 wrote: »

Yes I know its in Laois but still in Carlow Town. :rolleyes:
And its not as if you didnt know that he was referring to the town and not the county.

Haha actually their official address on topline website is .......

Topline Doyles, Shamrock Business Park
Graiguecullen, Co Carlow
Phone: 059 - 9131847


http://topline.ie/#carlow

Quite a long way into Laois is covered by Carlow post office. Last time I checked Ballickmoyler was a Carlow address.

It's not Carlow Town. It's in a different county and they are covered by Laois County Council not Carlow UDC.

I'm not sure what your obsession with claiming that areas that aren't Carlow Town and haven't ever been.

What is your definition of 'Carlow Town'? Where exactly do you think 'Carlow Town' ends going that direction?

almighty1

No obsession on my part anyway Morf, in fact you should look at your original response below. Shinne made the points to "shop local" and cited Doyles as a local shop. Even though its in a different County its both local and (in his opinion) important for Carlow to remain strong (given its proximity to Carlow).

However your response was ....... I dont really understand the point in your response either. So the obsession seems to be on your side buddy.

Shinnie0503 wrote: »

Agree on the choice of DIY shops but what you havent mentioned is the 'locally owned shops'. Doyles Topline (Doyle's of the Shamrock) is a locally owned, local staff, very experienced staff and great value for money. In order for Carlow to remain strong, it is important to shop local.

Morf wrote: »

Doyle's is now in Laois though.

Totally off topic - just had a look at Google Maps and it shows a large triangle of Graigue being in Carlow. Didnt know that, is this correct?

Thundercats Ho

Yes the 'Triangle' has been part of Co Carlow for well over a hundred years now. From the sawmills, to the numbers on one side, and to the astro turf pitches / declan byrnes on the other side.

tommycahir

Given the debate over in the Pennys development thread around the town vs county boundaries I am moving some of those posts to this thread to clean things up a bit.

Nothingbetter2d

when will the carlovian republican army rise up and conquer the laois bits of carlow town?

wheres me jumpa

LAOIS, LAOIS, LAOIS, LAOIS, LAOIS, LAOIS.

almighty1

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

when will the carlovian republican army rise up and conquer the laois bits of carlow town?

Id say it more likely that the Graigue army will rise up and demand to become part of Carlovia :P

car

New mothers who live in the likes of Rochford Manor and Crossneen Manor, have to travel all the way down to Portlaoise to get their newborn babies BCG, where if they lived a bit further down the road such as Cloyagh, they can go into Dympna's do get their children vacinated.

dexter647

car wrote: »

New mothers who live in the likes of Rochford Manor and Crossneen Manor, have to travel all the way down to Portlaoise to get their newborn babies BCG, where if they lived a bit further down the road such as Cloyagh, they can go into Dympna's do get their children vacinated.

:eek::eek:... If that's true the Carlovian army really need to get there sh1t together pronto:D

car

Its true, know it for a fact, Ring the Health Center in Graiguecullen and they will confirm it Phone: (059)9143651

New mothers that dont even have cars are expected to get public transport down with their newborn babies to get this injection, I think its ridiculous as people from these estates on the Carlow/Laois border could walk into Dympna's

maccored

i live in crossneen and we have to deal with portlaoise when it comes to eye tests etc for the kids. when we lived on killeshin road (not too far up the road either, just outside mount clare court), I had to go to portlaoise for rent allowance. some say the dividing line between laois and carlow is the river, but the actual boundry is more complicated than that.

dexter647

car wrote: »

Its true, know it for a fact, Ring the Health Center in Graiguecullen and they will confirm it Phone: (059)9143651

New mothers that dont even have cars are expected to get public transport down with their newborn babies to get this injection, I think its ridiculous as people from these estates on the Carlow/Laois border could walk into Dympna's

That there just sums up everything that is wrong with this land of ours...Genuinely shocked car but tbh nothing surprises me anymore in this country... How as a nation we just sit back and put up with stupid red tape bureaucracy like this is beyond me:mad:

byhookorbycrook

On the other hand, children in need of OT services get seen promptly if they live across the river in Laois, will wait years in Carlow.

almighty1

Surely the seperation of services like that must be in the minority. Like people on the dole surely dont have to go to Portloaise?

maccored

the carlow/laois border is a mess ... ever try to go out canvassing in Graigue? Theres parts where one house is in laois and next door in carlow.

slimjimmc

maccored wrote: »

the carlow/laois border is a mess ... ever try to go out canvassing in Graigue? Theres parts where one house is in laois and next door in carlow.

There are plenty of similar situations across the country, even cases where boundaries divide the same house. drogheda

Morf

slimjimmc wrote: »

There are plenty of similar situations across the country, even cases where boundaries divide the same house. drogheda

See one of the houses in Father Byrne Park.

byhookorbycrook

I heard of a divided house where two areas were claiming a child for community games or similar,one side "won" as the line went outside the bedroom door, where the child spent more time than in other rooms!!

ShayK1

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

I heard of a divided house where two areas were claiming a child for community games or similar,one side "won" as the line went outside the bedroom door, where the child spent more time than in other rooms!!

LoL
Sorry, but that's hilarious!

byhookorbycrook

ShayK1 wrote: »

LoL
Sorry, but that's hilarious!

Some of those local type competitions are dog eat dog!!!!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

would he have though?
like he'd be spending around 8+ hours a night in his bedroom
what.. six-eight hours in school a day? and then hed probably be over at friends, or out playing so he might only be spending 4-5 hours a day in the other rooms of the house where every night is a good 8 hours in bed

maccored

theres a definite split and it really needs to be sorted out. My son attends his diabetic clinic in carlow/kilkenny (who class him as living in Carlow), but has to get his eye tests done in portlaoise (as they reckon he lives in Laois).

votecounts

A friend of mine has just become unemployed and he lives in the killeshin road, graiguecullen, will he have to sign on in carlow or port laoise.
Thanks in advance.

Thundercats Ho

Depends on what part of the road he's on. Right at the church is Carlow, further up as your'e going to spar is in Laois.

ShayK1

votecounts wrote: »

A friend of mine has just become unemployed and he lives in the killeshin road, graiguecullen, will he have to sign on in carlow or port laoise.
Thanks in advance.

Carlow Social Welfare go out as far as Crettyard.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/ContactUs/Pages/swlo_carlow.aspx

Portlaoise would cover Stradbally, Abbleyleix and that sort of area.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/ContactUs/Pages/swbo_portlaiose.aspx

If you have any doubts, ring them.

Your Social Welfare Office is determined by Catchment Area rather than county borders.

Hope that helps.

AlanS181824

I always laugh at this debate.
Back the time of the voting my address read at the bottom.
Co Laois
Co Carlow
I live in Carlow even though some people in my estate say they live in Laois and thats fine by me! :pac:

Morf

This is the border with part going towards the Kilkenny Rd missing.

All sorts of areas outside this triangle have Carlow addresses, Ballickmoyler and the like are covered by Carlow town post office.

maccored

where we are is a slice of Laois which pops down between two bits of carlow. the postal address is Co Laois Via Carlow

slimjimmc

A caller with a fairly strong Dublin-region accent phoned in to Ray Darcy Show on Today FM a few weeks back and introduced herself as living in Co Carlow. When Ray asked her where in Co.Carlow she said "Crettyard" :rolleyes: The studio conversation then switched to guessing which counties border Carlow, no one in the studio got it right.

road_high

slimjimmc wrote: »

A caller with a fairly strong Dublin-region accent phoned in to Ray Darcy Show on Today FM a few weeks back and introduced herself as living in Co Carlow. When Ray asked her where in Co.Carlow she said "Crettyard" :rolleyes: The studio conversation then switched to guessing which counties border Carlow, no one in the studio got it right.

Could never figure out which county Crettyard is really in..part is in Kilkenny/Laois. Then Carlow is just the postal address?

Morf

road_high wrote: »

Could never figure out which county Crettyard is really in..part is in Kilkenny/Laois. Then Carlow is just the postal address?

It's just the areas covered by Carlow Post office rather than Port Laoise or other.

Just easier to have it directed to Carlow for sorting for delivery than Co. Laois where it would go to a different local sorting office and have to be transferred to Carlow afterwards.

BarryD

Morf wrote: »

Doyle's is now in Laois though.

We live in Carlow but our address is Wexford etc. Not always great from the point of view of public services to be living on or near county borders. Had a 'row' with Bus Eireann a few years ago, they declined to change the school bus route as it would have meant leaving one county and crossing through part of another etc., despite the fact that it would have shortened the route and facilitated more students. You could think of many other similar things as well, somehow if you're out on the periphery the local authorities don't seem to be as bothered.

But re Doyles of the Shamrock, we were just commenting this morning that I used often to call in for bits and pieces when they were in the town. Since they moved out, I have a vague memory of being there once.

gaiscioch

Hilarious thread. Found it while googling where that Jamie "never mind those architects" Moran builder guy on Room to Improve last week was from. Graiguecullen, it seems. So, naturally I googled where Graiguecullen is. It's apparently in Carlow, Co. Laois according to the Google map. No Wikipedia page for the mere place Graiguecullen, but this being Ireland there is for Graiguecullen GAA. It got funnier: "The club originally competed in the Carlow championships before being expelled in 1926 following an incident in the County Final against Milford in Rathoe. In 1927, they were invited to join the Laois Championship and they have remained there ever since."

Ok, I'll bite: what exactly happened in the 1926 "incident"?

brianblaze

gaiscioch wrote: »

Ok, I'll bite: what exactly happened in the 1926 "incident"?

We don't speak of... the incident...

StupidLikeAFox

gaiscioch wrote: »

Hilarious thread. Found it while googling where that Jamie "never mind those architects" Moran builder guy on Room to Improve last week was from. Graiguecullen, it seems. So, naturally I googled where Graiguecullen is. It's apparently in Carlow, Co. Laois according to the Google map. No Wikipedia page for the mere place Graiguecullen, but this being Ireland there is for Graiguecullen GAA. It got funnier: "The club originally competed in the Carlow championships before being expelled in 1926 following an incident in the County Final against Milford in Rathoe. In 1927, they were invited to join the Laois Championship and they have remained there ever since."

Ok, I'll bite: what exactly happened in the 1926 "incident"?

"In the football championship Graiguecullen returned to Laois after almost a quarter of a century, following a tempestuous county final against Bagenalstown/Milford in 1926. The game at Rathoe, Tullow was unfinished and Graiguecullen were suspended. An appeal was lodged with the Leinster Council and the Chairman Bob O'Keeffe ruled that the club could stand suspended for two years or return to Laois. Carlow's loss, Laois's gain."

From here http://www.laoisgaa.ie/contentPage/43273/brady_takes_chair1920-1929