P2 Grip

mike12

Just wondering how everyone is finding the grip a couple of months on.
Myself i find on short and medium range putts i'm putting great the longer putts i'm finding it a bit more difficult but that's something i found with the 2ball before.
Mike

acejeff

mike - I find that I'm holing out better from 2-4 feet. Perhaps it's just a bit of confidence (as my short putting was not great last year) however I think some of it to do with the fact that the grip helps to keep the hands quiet which is important holing those short ones

TheDoc

Doesnt look anything new really, there has been plenty of FAT grips and BIG grips for putters claiming this and that.

Firm believer that if your stroke isnt good with the putter, doesn't matter if your a laser guided system on the club head, your not going to put well.

Gimmick for me and wouldn't be slightly interested.

Granted I havnt read the detail spec, but there was grips around bout 6 year ago that were big enough so your two thumbs could fit side by side on it to try promote this better stroke. So this doesnt actually look anything new unless there is something to do with shaft alingment

acejeff

TheDoc wrote: »

So this doesnt actually look anything new unless there is something to do with shaft alingment

Shaft alignment within the grip is the main design component of this, The shaft angles back towards the back of the grip at the top - this promotes slightly higher hands at address a bit more upright and a cupping of the wrists. He came about the idea through watching Steve Stricker's motion and this grip basically promotes a lot of the characteristics of Stricker's upright set up, wrist position and minimising face rotation through the stroke

kagni

acejeff wrote: »

Shaft alignment within the grip is the main design component of this, The shaft angles back towards the back of the grip at the top - this promotes slightly higher hands at address a bit more upright and a cupping of the wrists. He came about the idea through watching Steve Stricker's motion and this grip basically promotes a lot of the characteristics of Stricker's upright set up, wrist position and minimising face rotation through the stroke

Wouldn't you get the same effect by getting your putter bent to be more upright?

acejeff

kagni wrote: »

Wouldn't you get the same effect by getting your putter bent to be more upright?

Not really - because of the way the shaft is positioned at the back of the grip, the fat part of the grip (forward of where the shaft is positioned) it forces the hands into a more upright position relative to the shaft (if that makes sense!!!!!)

bustercherry

acejeff wrote: »

Not really - because of the way the shaft is positioned at the back of the grip, the fat part of the grip (forward of where the shaft is positioned) it forces the hands into a more upright position relative to the shaft (if that makes sense!!!!!)

Yes you would and it's the same principle as far as I can see.

There is a maximum angle the putter shaft can have (Can't be arsed looking up the rules). By simply moving shaft to the back part of the grip, grip shape etc... it's increase the grip angle without modifying the shaft angle and the by product is the hands move into a more upright position. You can bend the shaft into a more upright position but the putter then becomes non conforming.

It really is a simple idea

kagni

So if you bent the shaft more upright at a point at the bottom of the grip you would get the same result (bending the shaft at that point would be illegal though).
I suppose that is not exactly the same as bending the whole putter more upright.

SnowDrifts

Perhaps people who have not tried the grip should reserve their opinions until they have used it.

I got the grip on mine. Since then, I'm getting more putts inside 10ft. Thats my experience.

Hacker111

exactly, try it out and then throw stones;)

I have been using it for a while now and I won't be changing back... I like more upright position of hands ( I think Stricker looks similar)....

mike12

Hacker111 wrote: »

exactly, try it out and then throw stones;)

I have been using it for a while now and I won't be changing back... I like more upright position of hands ( I think Stricker looks similar)....

Have to agree unless u have tried it don't knock it, espically with putting it is the 1 area of the game where a small improvment will save u shots. You can drive it longer and straighter and save no shots same with Irons and chipping but if u can sink 1,2,3 extra putts per round then it 1,2,3 less strokes or extra points.
So for 30 quid if it saves 1 shot per round it is worth it.
Mike

Sandwlch

Hacker111 wrote: »

exactly, try it out and then throw stones;)

Couldnt agree with you. Unfortunately none of us have the time or money to try out everything to check out the claims it makes. You must make some judgement before you commit your cash and try, and this one to me just looks like anther gimmic of the month that will come and go. In five years time, the likelyhood is that people will wonder 'P2 grip, gosh, remember them?'.

kagni

This forum would be fairly quiet i people only commented on equipment that they have owned. €35 quid for a grip is crazy IMO.

alxmorgan

Just bought one and it is truly amazing.
I haven't even put it on the putter yet and have had my two best putting rounds in a long time
It's like as if the old grip is rising to the competition

TheDoc

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Perhaps people who have not tried the grip should reserve their opinions until they have used it.

I got the grip on mine. Since then, I'm getting more putts inside 10ft. Thats my experience.

Pro had one in the shop last week while I was out practising.

Took it out on the putting green and used it for my practice routine.

Not to be one of those " I'll say no to be different" but it didn't blow me away.

Yes it was comfy, but I didn't experience any drastic improvement, I didn't feel that it somehow made putting easier, hence me dropping more putts.

Gave it about 30 minutes use and at the end it was a big meh, would probably not bother if it was €10, nevermind €35.

Pro asked me what I thought when I came back in and told him I wasn't impressed and didnt see the benefit to which he replied " and that's why I havnt sold one yet"

I can't imagine its for people who are crap at putting if pros are using it, but I just dont get it

SnowDrifts

Yeah well I guess it works for some and doesn't for others. A friend off scratch had it on his and took it off a week later.

With putting, you never know what is making you putt well/bad. All I know is that before I changed grip, I was missing ridiculous putts way too often. Perhaps I just had a good day straight after changing to the P2 and since then, it's been a purely psychological advantage.

But now, when I'm standing over the 5ft putt, my confidence is way higher than it was before and I have it my head that it is in the back of the hole.

saintastic

I put the P2 on back in February. I played 18 holes the day before an interclub match and was very wristy on my putts, missing them barely on the left and also on the right from 5/6ft. I bit the bullet and went for the P2 having read about it on here.

The next day, I had 2 putts down hill, left to right to win/halve a hole from around 6-8ft and I got them both. The rest of my putting was good and no bad misses. The jury was still out for me as I was wary of the placebo effect.

But, three months later, I am putting really well at the moment. I am missing a fair few greens these days but my average putts per round for my last four rounds is just under 28 and my putts per GIR is always less than 2. My putting from 3ft-12ft has improved dramatically. If I'm not making them, I'm going very close.

I am very happy with the P2 and my view on it was that it cost €30 to get and if I didn't like it, it cost €20 to get a standard grip so it was a €50 experiment if it didn't work out.

I am not associated with the product or anyone involved.

Seves Three Iron

Podge Harribo has taken the P2 grip off his putter, apparently. That didn't last long!

Sandwlch

Seves Three Iron wrote: »

Podge Harribo has taken the P2 grip off his putter, apparently. That didn't last long!

Flavour of the month, flavour of the month.

Seves Three Iron

I hear some talk he may be thinking of wrapping his new grip in a poultice of rum and sugar, to keep the demons away.

TheDoc

Seves Three Iron wrote: »

Podge Harribo has taken the P2 grip off his putter, apparently. That didn't last long!

His putting was pretty dirt there in the last two events I've seen him in

koheim

Got the P2 grip fitted last week, and tested it in the medal yesterday. Worked very well for me, only one 3 put and was really solid and comfortable on the greens all day.
The biggest advantage is how easy it is to line up, and hit on line. I got a better feel for my putting and hope to shave some strokes off my rounds going forward.

Now, I have to work on my chipping..:)

Peterdalkey

I wonder how those who got one earleir this year are getting on now with the P2 grip.;

cheers

Peter

spacecoyote

My Dad still has one fitted to his putter, I don't know how much he would put down to the grip, but from my observations (playing a game with him every other week) he is more solid over putts inside 7 feet than I've ever seen him before.

Hacker111

Peterdalkey wrote: »

I wonder how those who got one earleir this year are getting on now with the P2 grip.;

cheers

Peter

I have had mine on all year, very pleased. Putting better than ever... not sure how much the grip helped..but if assisted 1% thats enough for me......

mike12

Peterdalkey wrote: »

I wonder how those who got one earleir this year are getting on now with the P2 grip.;

cheers

Peter

Put one on and used it for 3/4 months i have to say on short putts it is great and if you are a bit wristy it is great, i found on long putts i was having a problem judging distances but that may just have been me. I have kept the putter as i would go back to it in a shot if i was having problems from inside 8 feet.
Mike

Peterdalkey

Interesting statistic, PGA Tour players make just over one in every four putts when putting from 10 to 15 feet (2011 Tour average: 28.5%).

More stats from PGA Tour site
A player's chance of one-putting drops 20 percent when moving from 3 feet back to 5 feet.
Just under 8 feet: At the 7-foot, 10-inch mark, it's 50/50 whether players will one or two putt.
11 feet: Players have a 1 in 3 chance of one-putting from 11 feet (34 percent).
14 feet: Players have a 3 in 4 chance of two-putt or better from 14 feet (75 percent).
25 feet: Players have a 1 in 10 chance of one-putting from 25 feet (10 percent).
33 feet: The point at which a player is expected to two-putt. This is interesting because while there is an 88 percent chance of a two-putt from this distance, it is the point at which a player is equally likely to one-putt or three-putt (6 percent each way)
40 Feet: Players have a 1 in 10 chance of three-putting from 40 feet (10 percent).
73 Feet: Players have a 1 in 3 chance of three-putting from 73 feet (33 percent).



Obvious amateur handicap statistic are going to be worse.. but missing the one back or the shortie is what does the real damage. If I could be sure of the majority inside 5/6 feet with the P2, it would be 30 quid well spent!!

GoLow59

I've used mine since earlier this year, and am still very happy. Overall, I feel I've holed more putts and my scores were consistently lower than last year. Of course, I've had a few off days in general with the whole game but I'm happy. Short putts are the biggest difference, feeling confident over them was something that I thought might go away after some time using it......but still waiting! :-)

Long putts were more accurate, and once I figured out that my pace was a little off at the start because I couldn't rely on my wrists for that extra little bit of power on the way through it improved. So i just focused on the length of my backstroke and accelerating on the way through.

I've gone from 11 to 8 handicap so i'm happy with my experience and money well spent.

Seves Three Iron

Just bought a P2 grip from their website. 34.95 all in. Looking forward to using it. Sounds the job. Gonna put it on my second putter which is currently broken in two. The reason it's broken in two explains why I'm going to give the P2 a go.

Peterdalkey

Got one fitted today in McGuirks for E30 and played 12 holes, unfortunately our putting greens were closed for spraying and thus went out cold with it. Got a few nice short sliders, but it is far too early to tell, will spend some practice time to get the pace and feel of it, it is quite noticeably different and thus feel a bit odd.

Cheers

Peter