Newspaper Journalists = SCUM OF THE EARTH

ClovenHoof

Now that the truth has come out that the Polish girl was not the welfare tourist as the media stated she was is it time for us as a society to turn our backs on the media in the country once and for all?

Considering that if they are not lying on behalf of the Government(s) policy, then they are whipping up hysteria over nothing. Why do people still buy these rags?

Newspaper journalists are essentially the scum of the earth. I am sorry, but all the ones I have met were. Both broadsheet and tabloid - I never met one whom I would trust to ask the time of day.

I know that is a broad brush and I guess there might be some healthy individuals drawn to that profession - but from my own personal contact with them over the years that are generally weasely, vile propagandists with proto-psychopathic tendencies and ****-stirring parasites for the most part.

With the Irish ones - being the most scummy and hysterical on earth. Sorry if I have offended anyone, but as soon as this story broke I knew it wasn't as cut and dry as the gargle and nicotine-encrusted dirtbags of media were making it out to be. Trying to whip up anti-immigrant rabbles. What this Polish girl wrote lots of Irish people do the same. They take time out to restart their lives. Not her fault Ireland has genourous social benefits. Good luck to her. I hope she starts her business and becomes a success.

mike65

Steady on, where is the proof she was misrepresented?

Yakult

Standards, they don't have them.

gcgirl

mike65 wrote: »

Steady on, where is the proof she was misrepresented?

The original article

ClovenHoof

mike65 wrote: »

Steady on, where is the proof she was misrepresented?

Here is a comment on the Polish Waitress story, which is now being hastily removed from newspaper sites.

Hello, I think the authors of this paper should get a better translator.

** In the original article it says that Donegal is the most beautiful place for some and the biggest s**thole for others. A slight difference that makes huge change to how article reads.

** In the article it says that Magda used to sleep till noon but now everyday she goes to the beach to see the sunset as it energises her for the day ahead.

** She was working and paying taxes before she quit her job, so it is somewhat wrong to accuse her of welfare tourism.

** She is thinking about opening a massage parlour, she learned Hawaiian massage on courses provided by the government

** On the third page the author asked her if she had problem with living from the dole. Her answer was : "Yes, I have a problem with that. I treat it more like a help to change my life and start my own business".

There are more and more discrepancies that completely twist the meaning of article and put Magda and others in the bad light.

Anyway I am off to work, so I can pay my taxes for her and others who are on the dole.

Dawid Nowak

mike65

broadsheet.ie has the skinny.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/02/01/ouch-2/

Ice87

She sounds like the perfect wife to be honest.


Where can I find this Magda you speak of?

Pacifist Pigeon

Yes, not just a few journalists, but every single one of them ... :pac:

Nodin

Ice87 wrote: »

She sounds like the perfect wife to be honest.


Where can I find this Magda you speak of?

You'd like to think she does actually exist.......coming out the exotic Donegal surf a light shade of blue with nipples that would take yer eye out.......

Seachmall

I have an issue with this comment she makes,

"Yes, I have a problem with that. I treat it more like a help to change my life and start my own business".

Now, I'm probably being pedantic here, but her first call of priority should be finding a job, not trying to start a business. Starting a business takes a lot of time and a lot of money and invariably has a lot of risk. She appears to be willfully sitting on the dole as she learns her skills and gathers investment to start her own business.

I think the intent is good but the Dole should not allow for you to delay opportunities of employment as you chase your goals.

Like I said, I'm probably being pedantic, but it does raise my eyebrow. I'm not fully opposed to what she's doing but I think she should be looking for a job right now, not for a business venture.

starbelgrade

"You're through to the Liveline..."

DrumSteve

Hold up. what about kevin myers?

Nodin

DrumSteve wrote: »

Hold up. what about kevin myers?

Thats Colonel Myarse to you.

The ally cat

They are scum, they always were scum and they always will be scum. Time to stop buying these rags!

sensibleken

Seachmall wrote: »

I have an issue with this comment she makes,



Now, I'm probably being pedantic here, but her first call of priority should be finding a job, not trying to start a business. Starting a business takes a lot of time and a lot of money and invariably has a lot of risk. She appears to be willfully sitting on the dole as she learns her skills and gathers investment to start her own business.

I think the intent is good but the Dole should not allow for you to delay opportunities of employment as you chase your goals.

Like I said, I'm probably being pedantic, but it does raise my eyebrow. I'm not fully opposed to what she's doing but I think she should be looking for a job right now, not for a business venture.

donegal has no jobs and banks arent lending to start up companies. If she manages to start up her own place and manages to employ one or two other people, taking them off teh register then that is a net gain to all

chin_grin

The ally cat wrote: »

They are scum, they always were scum and they always will be scum. Time to stop buying these rags!

Phew! Thought that was going in a completely different direction.

Stereomaniac

Well maybe that is the way of stopping these scum. Don't believe everything you read in newspapers.

wilkie2006

Although I agree that there are a lot of scummy rags out there, they're writing for a particular readership. Unfortunately a lot of idiots want validation for their own knuckle-dragging racist views.

wilkie2006

gcgirl

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2011/0408/1224294223407_1.jpg?ts=1327849732

chin_grin

gcgirl wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2011/0408/1224294223407_1.jpg?ts=1327849732

take everything

The ally cat wrote: »

They are scum, they always were scum and they always will be scum. Time to stop buying these rags!

Great subheadline material there.

mikom

Newspapers........ yesterdays lies today.

The vast majority of stuff printed in them these days are just opinion pieces or government press releases.

Gee Bag

ClovenHoof wrote: »

Now that the truth has come out that the Polish girl was not the welfare tourist as the media stated she was is it time for us as a society to turn our backs on the media in the country once and for all?

Yes, we should all hide in our wardrobes with buckets over our heads in case we hear more evil media lies.

Down with this kind of thing.

gcgirl

chin_grin wrote: »

gcgirl wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2011/0408/1224294223407_1.jpg?ts=1327849732

You see the big guy beside dame Enda well that's Gavin o Reilly CEO of INM who run the indo

Dudess

People expressing anger at uninformed sweeping statements about immigrants... by making uninformed sweeping statements about journalists.

Duckworth_Luas

Nodin wrote: »

Thats Colonel Myarse to you.

Rear-Admiral Myarse surely!

John Doe1

Donegal for the donegalish:mad:

davet82

no newspaper will ever give you the real news when vested interests that come from their advertisement revenue muddy the waters...

JupiterKid

Well, if my own dealings with a couple of journalists are anything to go by, then the OP's opinion isn't a million miles off. Integrity, honesty and journalism are not always good bedfellows.

The bad journalists out there give the "profession" a very bad reputation.

AnonoBoy

John Doe1 wrote: »

Donegal for the donegalish:mad:

Kenny Donegalish?

woysworld

The Polish ambassador has been on 2 radio stations 2day saying the article was incorrectly translated.

And it was the only topic on Dave Harvey show on 4FM earlier. Im not surprised this story took up the whole program. That show is "gutter" radio.:mad::mad::mad:

leviathon

Worst thing is that gobdaw that wrote that article probably knew full well what a storm this would create, and he's probably getting a pat on the back from on high in there because of all the publicity it's given to them today. Hey - all publicity is good publicity right?

woysworld

And now the amabassador is on a 3rd program...

Spread

The likes of Dunphy and Brendan O Connor only get popular because you get oafs reading their crap. Same as Littlejohn and a few more of the British ones. In today's day and age, a decent journalist would starve if it wasn't for writing some of same/nixers/TV or radio appearances. Instant TV has caused this.

flyton5

woysworld wrote: »

The Polish ambassador has been on 2 radio stations 2day saying the article was incorrectly translated.

And it was the only topic on Dave Harvey show on 4FM earlier. Im not surprised this story took up the whole program. That show is "gutter" radio.:mad::mad::mad:

Met him queuing for the dole the other day. Nice chap...

mikom

flyton5 wrote: »

Met him queuing for the dole the other day. Nice chap...

Offer you a swan leg did he?

flyton5

mikom wrote: »

Offer you a swan leg did he?

We didnt get around to that cause he was in a rush. He had 3 jobs to go to...

SHOVELLER

Look at the circulation figures for utter rubbish like the Sunday World and the "Irish" Sunday People. If simple minded people buy this rubbish there will always be room for rubbish journalists.

The Irish Independent is a glorified tabloid and look how many purchase it every day.

Latchy

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Well maybe that is the way of stopping these scum. Don't believe everything you read in newspapers.

Especially if the hack hasn't done his or her homework on the subject which even then, would strain for credibility

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Look at the circulation figures for utter rubbish like the Sunday World and the "Irish" Sunday People. If simple minded people buy this rubbish there will always be room for rubbish journalists.

The Irish Independent is a glorified tabloid and look how many purchase it every day.

It's cheaper to read rubbish on the net for free to .

previous user

are there any reliable online news websites?

Jack_Russell

The ally cat wrote: »

They are scum, they always were scum and they always will be scum. Time to stop buying these rags!

what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

we seriously need to grow up.

V_Moth

previous user wrote: »

are there any reliable online news websites?

Try this one. Works for me.

Laneyh

ClovenHoof wrote: »

Now that the truth has come out that the Polish girl was not the welfare tourist as the media stated she was is it time for us as a society to turn our backs on the media in the country once and for all?

Considering that if they are not lying on behalf of the Government(s) policy, then they are whipping up hysteria over nothing. Why do people still buy these rags?

Newspaper journalists are essentially the scum of the earth. I am sorry, but all the ones I have met were. Both broadsheet and tabloid - I never met one whom I would trust to ask the time of day.

I know that is a broad brush and I guess there might be some healthy individuals drawn to that profession - but from my own personal contact with them over the years that are generally weasely, vile propagandists with proto-psychopathic tendencies and ****-stirring parasites for the most part.

With the Irish ones - being the most scummy and hysterical on earth. Sorry if I have offended anyone, but as soon as this story broke I knew it wasn't as cut and dry as the gargle and nicotine-encrusted dirtbags of media were making it out to be. Trying to whip up anti-immigrant rabbles. What this Polish girl wrote lots of Irish people do the same. They take time out to restart their lives. Not her fault Ireland has genourous social benefits. Good luck to her. I hope she starts her business and becomes a success.

Print journalism has been in decline for years now. The Independent is a rag but I foolishly thought it had some journalistic integrity. Unfortunately the Irish press is not the scummiest and most hysterical in the world that dubious imo would go to Britain or Australia
That said no one is covered in glory here. At best its lazy journalism... how the frick is a story like this national news? and at worst maybe a deliberate rabble rouse. I've read the article , shared it with others and am now discussing it on here. So if they were going with the no publicity us bad publicity they've done pretty well for themselves.
As to the much maligned Magda (not her real name) some of the knee jerk responses about foreigners and dole scroungers would be funny but for the fact that these are people's firmly held beliefs.

Laneyh

Jack_Russell wrote: »

what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

we seriously need to grow up.

It is time for us to question sources and look for evidence to back up things that are proported as news stories and not believe the hogwash we're being fed to distract us from more pressing events.

Where was the excerpt from the original Polish newspaper ?
If you submitted that article as an assignment in school or college you'd be lucky to scrape a pass.

They may as well have robbed a random person's twitter / facebook status and written about that

Dudess

Jack_Russell wrote: »

what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

we seriously need to grow up.

But I thought this woman was majorly misrepresented. To object to that isn't an inability to accept that there are some scammers out there - nor is making the point that plenty of people who get labelled as scammers don't deserve it.

Nodin

Jack_Russell wrote: »

what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

we seriously need to grow up.

They aren't facts, its not true.

Run_to_da_hills

previous user wrote: »

are there any reliable online news websites?

The Daily Mail.

At least their site never crashes and is always updated.

NakedNNettles

I don't think all journalists are bad, there are some very good ones out there but this journalist who reported this 'Magda' story in Donegal is definately a new low.

Certainly has some form of grudge against other nationalities living in our country.

I don't support bullies or racists and I think it's important that if someone attacks a minority community that the public know who this person is. Ireland needs to be seen as a modern and welcoming country, we don't need journalists like this pushing they're own personal agendas.

If anyone knows, can we find out who this journalist is? Thanks

kraggy

sensibleken wrote: »

donegal has no jobs and banks arent lending to start up companies. If she manages to start up her own place and manages to employ one or two other people, taking them off teh register then that is a net gain to all

That's completely irrelevant.

Unemployment Benefit/Assisance is financial aid to help you survive while you're looking for work.

It is not:


a. supposed to help you raise capital for your business venture
b. finance your life while you learn your new trade
c. finance you so you can watch the sun rise

It is a temporary aid. If everyone took a leaf out of her book the country would be even more in debt due to financing people's dreams.

AudreyHepburn

On the one hand you think these people are simply doing their jobs and they, like the rest of us, do what they have to earn a living. But sometimes they do things that make you wonder whether they have any morals, any compassion at all.

For my money they don't get much lower than this lot:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_affair

I mean hacking a murdered child's phone and giving her parents false hopes and hacking the phones of 9/11 victims....who comes up with these things? And in their right mind condones and oks them?