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Newspaper Journalists = SCUM OF THE EARTH

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  • #32
    woysworld
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭woysworld


    The Polish ambassador has been on 2 radio stations 2day saying the article was incorrectly translated.

    And it was the only topic on Dave Harvey show on 4FM earlier. Im not surprised this story took up the whole program. That show is "gutter" radio.:mad::mad::mad:


  • #33
    leviathon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭leviathon


    Worst thing is that gobdaw that wrote that article probably knew full well what a storm this would create, and he's probably getting a pat on the back from on high in there because of all the publicity it's given to them today. Hey - all publicity is good publicity right?


  • #34
    woysworld
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭woysworld


    And now the amabassador is on a 3rd program...


  • #35
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    The likes of Dunphy and Brendan O Connor only get popular because you get oafs reading their crap. Same as Littlejohn and a few more of the British ones. In today's day and age, a decent journalist would starve if it wasn't for writing some of same/nixers/TV or radio appearances. Instant TV has caused this.


  • #36
    flyton5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭flyton5


    woysworld wrote: »
    The Polish ambassador has been on 2 radio stations 2day saying the article was incorrectly translated.

    And it was the only topic on Dave Harvey show on 4FM earlier. Im not surprised this story took up the whole program. That show is "gutter" radio.:mad::mad::mad:

    Met him queuing for the dole the other day. Nice chap...


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  • #37
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    flyton5 wrote: »
    Met him queuing for the dole the other day. Nice chap...

    Offer you a swan leg did he?


  • #38
    flyton5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭flyton5


    mikom wrote: »
    Offer you a swan leg did he?


    We didnt get around to that cause he was in a rush. He had 3 jobs to go to...


  • #39
    SHOVELLER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Look at the circulation figures for utter rubbish like the Sunday World and the "Irish" Sunday People. If simple minded people buy this rubbish there will always be room for rubbish journalists.

    The Irish Independent is a glorified tabloid and look how many purchase it every day.


  • #40
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Stereomaniac wrote: »
    Well maybe that is the way of stopping these scum. Don't believe everything you read in newspapers.
    Especially if the hack hasn't done his or her homework on the subject which even then, would strain for credibility
    SHOVELLER wrote: »
    Look at the circulation figures for utter rubbish like the Sunday World and the "Irish" Sunday People. If simple minded people buy this rubbish there will always be room for rubbish journalists.

    The Irish Independent is a glorified tabloid and look how many purchase it every day.
    It's cheaper to read rubbish on the net for free to .


  • #41
    previous user
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    are there any reliable online news websites?


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  • #42
    Jack_Russell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Jack_Russell


    The ally cat wrote: »
    They are scum, they always were scum and they always will be scum. Time to stop buying these rags!

    what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

    it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

    we seriously need to grow up.


  • #43
    V_Moth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    previous user wrote: »
    are there any reliable online news websites?

    Try this one. Works for me.


  • #44
    Laneyh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Laneyh


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Now that the truth has come out that the Polish girl was not the welfare tourist as the media stated she was is it time for us as a society to turn our backs on the media in the country once and for all?

    Considering that if they are not lying on behalf of the Government(s) policy, then they are whipping up hysteria over nothing. Why do people still buy these rags?

    Newspaper journalists are essentially the scum of the earth. I am sorry, but all the ones I have met were. Both broadsheet and tabloid - I never met one whom I would trust to ask the time of day.

    I know that is a broad brush and I guess there might be some healthy individuals drawn to that profession - but from my own personal contact with them over the years that are generally weasely, vile propagandists with proto-psychopathic tendencies and ****-stirring parasites for the most part.

    With the Irish ones - being the most scummy and hysterical on earth. Sorry if I have offended anyone, but as soon as this story broke I knew it wasn't as cut and dry as the gargle and nicotine-encrusted dirtbags of media were making it out to be. Trying to whip up anti-immigrant rabbles. What this Polish girl wrote lots of Irish people do the same. They take time out to restart their lives. Not her fault Ireland has genourous social benefits. Good luck to her. I hope she starts her business and becomes a success.

    Print journalism has been in decline for years now. The Independent is a rag but I foolishly thought it had some journalistic integrity. Unfortunately the Irish press is not the scummiest and most hysterical in the world that dubious imo would go to Britain or Australia
    That said no one is covered in glory here. At best its lazy journalism... how the frick is a story like this national news? and at worst maybe a deliberate rabble rouse. I've read the article , shared it with others and am now discussing it on here. So if they were going with the no publicity us bad publicity they've done pretty well for themselves.
    As to the much maligned Magda (not her real name) some of the knee jerk responses about foreigners and dole scroungers would be funny but for the fact that these are people's firmly held beliefs.


  • #45
    Laneyh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Laneyh


    Jack_Russell wrote: »
    what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

    it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

    we seriously need to grow up.

    It is time for us to question sources and look for evidence to back up things that are proported as news stories and not believe the hogwash we're being fed to distract us from more pressing events.

    Where was the excerpt from the original Polish newspaper ?
    If you submitted that article as an assignment in school or college you'd be lucky to scrape a pass.

    They may as well have robbed a random person's twitter / facebook status and written about that


  • #46
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Jack_Russell wrote: »
    what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

    it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

    we seriously need to grow up.
    But I thought this woman was majorly misrepresented. To object to that isn't an inability to accept that there are some scammers out there - nor is making the point that plenty of people who get labelled as scammers don't deserve it.


  • #47
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Jack_Russell wrote: »
    what is wrong with us as a nation that we cannot tolerate being told the truth?

    it is much easier to dismiss the message, (ie shoot the messenger) than deal with what might be considered unpalatable facts.

    we seriously need to grow up.

    They aren't facts, its not true.


  • #48
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    previous user wrote: »
    are there any reliable online news websites?

    The Daily Mail. :p

    At least their site never crashes and is always updated.


  • #49
    NakedNNettles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭NakedNNettles


    I don't think all journalists are bad, there are some very good ones out there but this journalist who reported this 'Magda' story in Donegal is definately a new low.

    Certainly has some form of grudge against other nationalities living in our country.

    I don't support bullies or racists and I think it's important that if someone attacks a minority community that the public know who this person is. Ireland needs to be seen as a modern and welcoming country, we don't need journalists like this pushing they're own personal agendas.

    If anyone knows, can we find out who this journalist is? Thanks


  • #50
    kraggy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    sensibleken wrote: »
    donegal has no jobs and banks arent lending to start up companies. If she manages to start up her own place and manages to employ one or two other people, taking them off teh register then that is a net gain to all

    That's completely irrelevant.

    Unemployment Benefit/Assisance is financial aid to help you survive while you're looking for work.

    It is not:


    a. supposed to help you raise capital for your business venture
    b. finance your life while you learn your new trade
    c. finance you so you can watch the sun rise

    It is a temporary aid. If everyone took a leaf out of her book the country would be even more in debt due to financing people's dreams.


  • #51
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    On the one hand you think these people are simply doing their jobs and they, like the rest of us, do what they have to earn a living. But sometimes they do things that make you wonder whether they have any morals, any compassion at all.

    For my money they don't get much lower than this lot:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_affair

    I mean hacking a murdered child's phone and giving her parents false hopes and hacking the phones of 9/11 victims....who comes up with these things? And in their right mind condones and oks them?


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  • #52
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    kraggy wrote: »
    That's completely irrelevant.

    Unemployment Benefit/Assisance is financial aid to help you survive while you're looking for work.

    It is not:


    a. supposed to help you raise capital for your business venture
    b. finance your life while you learn your new trade
    c. finance you so you can watch the sun rise

    It is a temporary aid. If everyone took a leaf out of her book the country would be even more in debt due to financing people's dreams.

    maybe you should point the people of donegal in the direction of the work because it seems to be very well hid.

    using her dole money to make her own work is going to be a lot quicker, and cheaper to us, than sitting around waiting for someone else to create the employment oppertunities.


  • #53
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'd take a person using the dole to set up a business for themselves quicker than spending a few years on it while doing courses and looking for work. Either way, they get off it and start earning some dosh for themselves.

    FÀS even have (had?) courses on starting your own business for those on the scratch.


  • #54
    LLU
    Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭LLU


    And to think it took two so called journalists to write it!
    They probably googled the original article from the Polish paper, used Google Translate to translate it, stuck in a few stock phrases and punctuation, gave Senator Jimmy Harte a buzz to get a quote, and then buggered off for the rest of the day.
    Nice gig if you can get it.


  • #55
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    sensibleken wrote: »
    maybe you should point the people of donegal in the direction of the work because it seems to be very well hid.

    using her dole money to make her own work is going to be a lot quicker, and cheaper to us, than sitting around waiting for someone else to create the employment oppertunities.

    While she's not working I think it's the best option. Might as well do something productive.

    But if a job does come along what would she do? Pass it up to take the risk of starting her own business?

    The Dole is there to support you until you find an alternative means of income, not to give you the flexibility of being able to turn down work in favour of chasing your dreams.


  • #56
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Seachmall wrote: »
    While she's not working I think it's the best option. Might as well do something productive.

    But if a job does come along what would she do? Pass it up to take the risk of starting her own business?

    The Dole is there to support you until you find an alternative means of income, not to give you the flexibility of being able to turn down work in favour of chasing your dreams.

    I dont know, depends on how serious she is. Regardless of its official purpose it could still be much better for her to become self employed later, pay more tax, employ some people, than getting a minimum wage job sooner, pay little tax and still have to get some assistance.

    Unemployed people dont take the first job that comes along if it is significantly lower pay than their trade. Some wouldnt agree with it but I think its a good thing. Highly trained IT developers working in centra leads to a brain drain when they much better (as would all of us collectively) if they took a little longer on the dole to find a more suitable role.


  • #57
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    sensibleken wrote: »
    I dont know, depends on how serious she is. Regardless of its official purpose it could still be much better for her to become self employed later, pay more tax, employ some people, than getting a minimum wage job sooner, pay little tax and still have to get some assistance.
    Absolutely but there's nothing preventing her from starting her business with employment elsewhere. I'm sure that's how most people do, or have done, it.

    Also, I don't know the figures but I'm sure that well more than half of all business fail to make it off the ground, particularly in this climate anyway. So it is a massive risk and by remaining on the dole it's ultimately the tax payer financing that risk.

    I don't want to sound like I would rather squash new businesses or innovative people in order to keep them out of the tax payers pocket (I'm currently working for a new start-up so I know there are great benefits to it) but it can all be done while employed rather than on the dole.
    Unemployed people dont take the first job that comes along if it is significantly lower pay than their trade. Some wouldnt agree with it but I think its a good thing. Highly trained IT developers working in centra leads to a brain drain when they much better (as would all of us collectively) if they took a little longer on the dole to find a more suitable role.
    It's lack of fitting careers that cause brain drains, not lack of jobs. A highly trained IT developer on the dole is just as likely to seek employment over seas as one that has a job that they're over-qualified for. And there's nothing to stop them looking for jobs while employed.


  • #58
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Journos are scumbags? When did this shocking news break? the 18th century? :confused:


  • #59
    marcindd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭marcindd


    Irish Independent should at least apologise and ideally offer her a job or something for what they did to her,

    If I'd be her I'd suit the newspaper demanding a solid compensation for moral damages done by them.


  • #60
    p to the e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭p to the e


    marcindd wrote: »
    Irish Independent should at least apologise and ideally offer her a job or something for what they did to her,

    If I'd be her I'd suit the newspaper demanding a solid compensation for moral damages done by them.

    You read The Sun don't you?


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  • #61
    marcindd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭marcindd


    p to the e wrote: »
    You read The Sun don't you?

    nope


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