Dunphy describes Ireland as a Kip, a Dump.

Niall0001

FruitLover wrote: »

I don't think I'd ever set foot in the country again if it weren't for Guinness.

& even that is English owned.

Mike 1972

Dunphy is a complete gobshyte.

But even a complete gobshyte cant be wrong about everything.

Son Of A Vidic

My_left_leg wrote: »

Was he correct to describe our little country as a dump?

What do you think OP?.........Any opinion?

And yet again we have another thread started by an OP, who makes no effort to provide us with an opinion on the subject matter. So I think I'll extend the same courtesy.

Dudess

Why would a person not set foot in this country? What would happen to them?

efb

He's a WUM- I'm not lovin' it!

Meow_Meow

Ireland rather is like a dump of one variety- we toiled and used extreme force to bring it into existence only to realise it was shít

Nah, I Ireland, I'm just frustrated that I have to spend another Saturday giving out CVs to Poles who tell me that there are no jobs available. Again.

efb

Meow_Meow wrote: »

Ireland rather is like a dump of one variety- we toiled and used extreme force to bring it into existence only to realise it was shít

Nah, I Ireland, I'm just frustrated that I have to spend another Saturday giving out CVs to Poles who tell me that there are no jobs available. Again.

that seems to be a very small market your aiming at

TheZohanS

SV wrote: »

It is a shíthole.
Would want to have some serious problems to not see that.

I remember a few months ago you said you were emigrating, where did you go to?

screamer

I've had medical treatment in a "THIRD WORLD" country, and it was faster, more efficent, more organised and more capable than treatment I've had in Ireland. In fact, if I had to chose between them, I'd chose the "THIRD WORLD" model. Simple fact is, there are those who like to think Ireland is a grand place to live...... well, maybe for now, but it won't be for much longer. Ireland spent the last 15 years catching up with the rest of the world, we will stall here and spend the next 50 paying for it. We are too small in population to get up and out of this recession, besides, with "neutral" politics and mindsets, we're in the doldrums. And yes, it will be a dump and a kip in the not too very far away future compared to other FIRST WORLD countries, which is where we should be trying to draw comparisons.

amacachi

Dudess wrote: »

Seriously, are the spoilt brats on this thread for real? F'ucking Celtic Tiger cubs. I remember Ireland in the 80s when things were infinitely bleaker and it WAS a bit of a ****-hole. Don't care if I sound like an auld fogey - some kids today really don't know how good they have it. Because they're used to such excess during the "boom".

Oh come on, seriously. The majority of the consistent doommongers and whingers on boards are well out of their teens and some have teenage kids of their own. Most of the complaining I here from people my age and younger is about the doom and gloom from the media and older people rather than their own personal circumstances. It'd be the first thing on my list of reasons to leave for sure.

The Waltzing Consumer

screamer wrote: »

I've had medical treatment in a "THIRD WORLD" country, and it was faster, more efficent, more organised and more capable than treatment I've had in Ireland. In fact, if I had to chose between them, I'd chose the "THIRD WORLD" model. Simple fact is, there are those who like to think Ireland is a grand place to live...... well, maybe for now, but it won't be for much longer. Ireland spent the last 15 years catching up with the rest of the world, we will stall here and spend the next 50 paying for it. We are too small in population to get up and out of this recession, besides, with "neutral" politics and mindsets, we're in the doldrums. And yes, it will be a dump and a kip in the not too very far away future compared to other FIRST WORLD countries, which is where we should be trying to draw comparisons.

Care to give us the name of this third world country?

saa

Irelands a wonderful country, the gaffs just been wreaked... a bit.

Bullseye1

It's not a kip but there a lots of people who treat it like a kip. Just look a the amount of rubbish and litter around every town and village in the country and back roads.

bleg

screamer wrote: »

I've had medical treatment in a "THIRD WORLD" country, and it was faster, more efficent, more organised and more capable than treatment I've had in Ireland. In fact, if I had to chose between them, I'd chose the "THIRD WORLD" model. Simple fact is, there are those who like to think Ireland is a grand place to live...... well, maybe for now, but it won't be for much longer. Ireland spent the last 15 years catching up with the rest of the world, we will stall here and spend the next 50 paying for it. We are too small in population to get up and out of this recession, besides, with "neutral" politics and mindsets, we're in the doldrums. And yes, it will be a dump and a kip in the not too very far away future compared to other FIRST WORLD countries, which is where we should be trying to draw comparisons.

Lovely anecdote, the data suggests otherwise.

http://www.prosperity.com/

SV

TheZohan wrote: »

I remember a few months ago you said you were emigrating, where did you go to?

Amsterdam.


btw, I live incredibly comfortably, nothing to do with being a 'celtic tiger cub'
Just fact is, Ireland is a dump.
Dunphy is dead right.

Spread

I'm sure that none of these Jeremiahs go to bed hungry or don't have a roof over their heads. Quit complaining ........... it doesn't work. Unless you are saddled with debt I canot see how people regard Ireland as a kip. About E180 pw in welfarte payments for a single person! Can anyone explain how you CANNOT live on that. Don't include fags and booze. And if someone cannot put E40 pw by (for a couple of sun holidays) ........ then they need to go to a few classes in Home Economics.
Boredom and the impetuosity of youth is the cause of most of this anger IMO.

PeterIanStaker

Dunphy is a twat who changes his stance on issues weekly if it'll give him the attention that he craves. I hope he drinks himself to death soon. We'll be better off as a country without that twunt. He's part of the Fianna Fail cheerleading media who banjaxed the country, if its a kip or a dump its because of the media/political cabal of which he is a part.

RainbowRose81

MysticalRain wrote: »

Ireland is a grand little country if you happen to have a safe, secure pensionable job, are not in negative equity, or have children with special needs, or on a hospital waiting list with a serious illness. For those that don't however, they may be forgiven for thinking at times that Ireland really does seem like a dump.

I agree Ireland is okay if you have a:

(a) a secure pensionable job
(b) if you don't have a disability/illness and you are in full health
(c) if you don't have children with a disabilities/illness
(d) if you are not from a disadvantage area
(e) if you not a single mother/lone parent from a disadvantaged or rural area where there is no transport or support in anyway other than immediate family
(f) if your not an older/vulnerable person living alone especially in rural Ireland or a marginalised area
(g) not a person with mental health difficulty or have depression especially the young and especially in rural Ireland where they are at risk to suicide

A lot of people cannot see the reality of how things actually are for many people and anyone can be in those situations at anytime, they cannot step inside their shoes and understand because they don't want to know and many don't care.

SV

lol. people get so worked up over what one person says.

direct that kind of energy to something worthwhile and might actually get somewhere.

AudreyHepburn

Ireland is great little country but her people have become irrationally bitter and cynical imo.

Things are tough at the moment I know, but calling our little island a kip and a s...hole is unreasonable.

TheZohanS

SV wrote: »

Amsterdam.


btw, I live incredibly comfortably, nothing to do with being a 'celtic tiger cub'
Just fact is, Ireland is a dump.
Dunphy is dead right.

Good man, hope you have a ball.

Spread

I remember years ago, Dunphy got upset because some comic sketch put a donkey's head on him. He said it was cruel. Is he afraid of the truth or something? How this douchebag commands airtime is a wonder. But the Irish listeners/viewers like this type of moaning ......... hence the rating figures. The Muppets make more sense than him. Ever listen to his fawning interviews of those that he regards as superior? I hope his chip on the shoulder does not infect a newer generation.

Dudess

SV wrote: »

direct that kind of energy to something worthwhile and might actually get somewhere.

Yep, that's exactly what should be said to the whingers who moan non stop that we should be protesting - meaning other people besides themselves of course.

I'd love a rundown as to why Ireland is overall a sh1t-hole. Yes I'm aware of the problems. But how does that make it like e.g. Somalia?

Just seems like teenage whining for the sake of it.

RainbowRose81

screamer wrote: »

I've had medical treatment in a "THIRD WORLD" country, and it was faster, more efficent, more organised and more capable than treatment I've had in Ireland. In fact, if I had to chose between them, I'd chose the "THIRD WORLD" model. Simple fact is, there are those who like to think Ireland is a grand place to live...... well, maybe for now, but it won't be for much longer. Ireland spent the last 15 years catching up with the rest of the world, we will stall here and spend the next 50 paying for it. We are too small in population to get up and out of this recession, besides, with "neutral" politics and mindsets, we're in the doldrums. And yes, it will be a dump and a kip in the not too very far away future compared to other FIRST WORLD countries, which is where we should be trying to draw comparisons.

A person I know was telling me he knows some people from here that go to India because the health care system there is great compared to Ireland. India is an underdeveloped country with 1 billion people, there are hundreds of different problems there but here in the developed country of Ireland they make a business of the basic human right to health and life, they make money out of sick people, this is unethical.

If I was from a low income family or unemployed in a disadvantaged area and I got cancer,I would probably be dead maybe in a year waiting in the q for medical card because I would not be able to afford health insurance, they put a price on someone's life! Is that not saying it all! That is the way how it is and the way how it's going to be and people say Ireland is not a kip, those sad stories say it all.

RainbowRose81

SV wrote: »

lol. people get so worked up over what one person says.

direct that kind of energy to something worthwhile and might actually get somewhere.

If you don't see the way how things are and the way the situation is, you need to get the facts and the reality because if you don't it's hard to weight up and see what is correct action and what is the best move to make for you like is it worth while living here if you have a disability or a child with special needs or is it not, will the pain be less somewhere else or not. You have to be honest with yourself and others because people need to prosper and live happily.

RainbowRose81

Solair wrote: »

I've been travelling around Europe quite a bit recently and I can assure you Ireland is NOT a dump!

Compared to most places I visited, it's very pretty and high quality looking!

Quite a lot of European cities and town have architectural old cores and utterly grim new suburbs consisting of faceless apartment blocks.

Even France is full of crappy looking urban areas that would depress you on a wet day in a way that very few Irish town would!

Also Irish food (not traditional, but I mean cafes, etc) is extremely varied and good! You can nearly starve in France if you dislike microwaved reheated soggy ham and cheese toasted sandwiches eh, croque Monsieur etc etc

Anyway, if you think Ireland is a kip ... Travel ...you'll come back with very different perspectives ...

The only thing I do think is dire here is the weather !!

Yea the architecture may be nice here and so is the food but is that important to human needs?

Spread

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

A person I know was telling me he knows some people from here that go to India because the health care system there is great compared to Ireland. India is an underdeveloped country with 1 billion people, there are hundreds of different problems there but here in the developed country of Ireland they make a business of the basic human right to health and life, they make money out of sick people, this is unethical.

If I was from a low income family or unemployed in a disadvantaged area and I got cancer,I would probably be dead maybe in a year waiting in the q for medical card because I would not be able to afford health insurance, they put a price on someone's life! Is that not saying it all! That is the way how it is and the way how it's going to be and people say Ireland is not a kip, those sad stories say it all.

Probably why people from the sub Continent come to Britain to be treated on the National Health. Sounds like an Mumbaian myth

k.p.h

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

I agree Ireland is okay if you have a:

(a) a secure pensionable job
(b) if you don't have a disability/illness and you are in full health
(c) if you don't have children with a disabilities/illness
(d) if you are not from a disadvantage area
(e) if you not a single mother/lone parent from a disadvantaged or rural area where there is no transport or support in anyway other than immediate family
(f) if your not an older/vulnerable person living alone especially in rural Ireland or a marginalised area
(g) not a person with mental health difficulty or have depression especially the young and especially in rural Ireland where they are at risk to suicide

A lot of people cannot see the reality of how things actually are for many people and anyone can be in those situations at anytime, they cannot step inside their shoes and understand because they don't want to know and many don't care.

I'm starting to notice a bit of a disconnect between what were once similar groups.

During the boom times we all operated in a pretty much comfortable middle class society. But the foundations for a lot of us were built on the premise of the boom times keeping going, good employment and easy borrowing allowed for everyone to have nice cars, nice houses and security etc. etc.

Now that is stripped away we are coming to the realization that it was built on shoddy foundations, but a lot of people did get wealthy and did actually raise themselves above the lower middle class bracket. That section of society is still relatively comfortable and I don't begrudge them that. But the lower bracket have slid a good bit back down the ladder.

With 400,000 unemployed, I still reckon that there is another 1.000,000 people here that have effectively went from comfortable middle class to struggling to avoid outright poverty.

So is the country still a good place to live, for the majority yes..! But for an ever increasing minority it is getting increasingly worrying.

RainbowRose81

Spread wrote: »

Probably why people from the sub Continent come to Britain to be treated on the National Health. Sounds like an Mumbaian myth

Well I know someone who went there, they got sick and were treated very efficiently in government hospital, they didn't have to wait and it's free to all. It is not a myth, it's a fact. Actually, to call the 'health' service here a health service is a myth, it's dysfunctional on so many many levels, here they make a business out of sick/vulnerable and injured people.

amacachi

It's funny how foreign people go to Britain for treatment while British people like to go to Malta and Eastern Europe for treatment. It's as though people are just never happy.