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Bass Reeves

declanflynn wrote: »

used to fatten bulls during the winter, going to try and stay away from big meal bills in the future, do you think buying the BB as a calf and killing u30 months averaging a bit above 400kg would be a profitable system

I am staying away from einter finishing as well. Not sure I want to be buying calves at 300+ a pop. At the end of the day the Friesian calf may leave within 250 euro of him anyway

degetme

Duke92 wrote: »

When your making money sell move on replace
Just keeping them because you have grass is bull
We have a fair idea what the price will be in August it usually drops 40 cent in this period anyway

I reckon they’ll be worth €1080 in august
If there fairly good your talking 360 kg dead
Let’s just you get a good price €3 a kg flat

Dose that make any sense
Maybe you like the look of them around the place

Haven't bought an animal in 12 years and staying that way. They'll be going before August. Some will grade 0= 0- and the worst p+. What do I do with grass and silage everywhere

DukeCaboom

degetme wrote: »

He was a small framed bullock

He is in the top 1% of litres of milk per cow delivered to the co op. Thats why they are narrow.

Duke92

degetme wrote: »

Haven't bought an animal in 12 years and staying that way. They'll be going before August. Some will grade 0= 0- and the worst p+. What do I do with grass and silage everywhere

Sell them for €1020
Buy small ones for €500 and go again

If you wait till august you’ll probably get 1060 less haulage and commission and probably cost €700 to replace
Only €360 profit

degetme

Duke92 wrote: »

When your making money sell move on replace
Just keeping them because you have grass is bull
We have a fair idea what the price will be in August it usually drops 40 cent in this period anyway

I reckon they’ll be worth €1080 in august
If there fairly good your talking 360 kg dead
Let’s just you get a good price €3 a kg flat

Dose that make any sense
Maybe you like the look of them around the place

Got a phone call back with 1050 so I'm going to leave off a few

Anto_Meath

Looking at the prices on line for Carnaross today people must be expecting beef to be a good price in the back end. If I had beef cattle near fit at the minute I would be tempted to show them in the mart. I did hear on the grape vine one of the factory agents giving out about the on line marts in that you can't see who is bidding. Same lad would be stareing you out of it anytime you are bidding against him..

Duke92

degetme wrote: »

Got a phone call back with 1050 so I'm going to leave off a few

Let them all off

din090782

Im looking to buy in a few cattle at the moment. Does anybody know roughly how much British freisen yearling bullocks are making ag the moment? 300-350kgs. Also how much are the more holstein type making? Same age.

kk.man

Anto_Meath wrote: »

Looking at the prices on line for Carnaross today people must be expecting beef to be a good price in the back end. If I had beef cattle near fit at the minute I would be tempted to show them in the mart. I did hear on the grape vine one of the factory agents giving out about the on line marts in that you can't see who is bidding. Same lad would be stareing you out of it anytime you are bidding against him..

The best thing ever... An absolute pleasure going to the mart nowadays. If ya get the cattle at the price you get them.. If you don't no hard feelings. I been to 3 Marts that were tendering.. The only good to come out of this crises. Not many dealers buying either.

kk.man

din090782 wrote: »

Im looking to buy in a few cattle at the moment. Does anybody know roughly how much British freisen yearling bullocks are making ag the moment? 300-350kgs. Also how much are the more holstein type making? Same age.

1.63 outside price.. Good ones.

kk.man

Anto_Meath wrote: »

Looking at the prices on line for Carnaross today people must be expecting beef to be a good price in the back end. If I had beef cattle near fit at the minute I would be tempted to show them in the mart. I did hear on the grape vine one of the factory agents giving out about the on line marts in that you can't see who is bidding. Same lad would be stareing you out of it anytime you are bidding against him..

Yes stores haven't fallen that much.

jfh

kk.man wrote: »

Yes stores haven't fallen that much.

I sold 2 stores in the Mart 5th 550 kgs €1300& 1 on the 7th march same weight for 1280, there comrades are out on grass for the last month now. I hope to offload soon as very highly stocked and leave the finishing to those that know more. I'd be expecting the same money, I do realise there's not much in it for the guy who's going to finish but that's what I'll be asking anyway..

e123MF

I'm looking for some advice, I have 5 charolais bullocks that are ready for the factory but I am unsure to let them go now or hope factory prices rise in the coming weeks. Two of them are 29 months and weighing 790 kg and the other 750 kg. The other 3 are only 23 months and weigh between 710 kg-730 kg. That was their live weights 3 weeks ago so hopefully they've put on a bit more weight since. Anyone think I should wait out another few weeks or does anyone project factory prices to decrease further? Not QA

e123MF

Jjameson wrote: »

Where do you normally go with them?

Liffey Meats

Duke92

jfh wrote: »

I sold 2 stores in the Mart 5th 550 kgs €1300& 1 on the 7th march same weight for 1280, there comrades are out on grass for the last month now. I hope to offload soon as very highly stocked and leave the finishing to those that know more. I'd be expecting the same money, I do realise there's not much in it for the guy who's going to finish but that's what I'll be asking anyway..

You won’t be selling them so

DukeCaboom

Jjameson wrote: »

He’s selling to farmers Duke.. never underestimate the lack of logic combined with grass and money in the bank

Ha ha thats one of only 3 things i learned in kildalton!!

Duke92

Jjameson wrote: »

He’s selling to farmers Duke.. never underestimate the lack of logic combined with grass and money in the bank

Yes still they are back especially more forward cattle

memorystick

Any quotes please.

Grueller

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Ha ha thats one of only 3 things i learned in kildalton!!

What were the other 2?

jntsnk

Anto_Meath wrote: »

Looking at the prices on line for Carnaross today people must be expecting beef to be a good price in the back end. If I had beef cattle near fit at the minute I would be tempted to show them in the mart. I did hear on the grape vine one of the factory agents giving out about the on line marts in that you can't see who is bidding. Same lad would be stareing you out of it anytime you are bidding against him..

Some auctioneers got too friendly with dealers!

DukeCaboom

Grueller wrote: »

What were the other 2?

How to store a burdizzo and never buy cattle from a dealer.

whelan2

Supermacs reopening has to be good news

jntsnk

whelan2 wrote: »

Supermacs reopening has to be good news

Hopefully other burger joints in UK & Europe will open with restrictions. Germany relaxing restrictions. Its a case of minimising contact and going on with your day. Might stop the price dropping more. Doubt there will be an increase .

DBK1

memorystick wrote: »

Any quotes please.

I killed continental heifers in the midlands today. €3.40 base price. Seems to be the same countrywide. The agents are talking about it possibly dropping to €3.30 in the next few days but are saying that every day for a few weeks now. It’s probably just a tactic to make you feel grateful to be getting €3.40.

Fireside Solicitor

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/letter-to-the-editor-on-the-18-cattle-that-went-this-week-we-were-down-e4500/

Bass Reeves

Fireside Solicitor wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/letter-to-the-editor-on-the-18-cattle-that-went-this-week-we-were-down-e4500/

TBH I am beginning to wonder what lads at winter finishing are at. Throwing thousands of euro worth of ration into cattle all in the name of efficienty and throughput. Lads putting cattle into a shed to finish without a contract are playing russian roulette.

leoch

Ur right bass but can anyone explain how these contracts work and how many cattle u would need to be finishing to get a contract my guess would be alot of 100s or maybe 1000s ......another question is most factory agents tell u tjat they don't want bulls but then the big feed lot's keep nothing but bulls....

Bass Reeves

leoch wrote: »

Ur right bass but can anyone explain how these contracts work and how many cattle u would need to be finishing to get a contract my guess would be alot of 100s or maybe 1000s ......another question is most factory agents tell u tjat they don't want bulls but then the big feed lot's keep nothing but bulls....

It down to as simple as this processors will not give winter contracts as long as finishers are willing to take the risk . I think it was in the autumn of 2004 that with slaughter premium going after Christmas that Foyle meats promised a base of a pound/lb or 2.8/kg minimum after Christmas. At the time the beef price was sub 90p/lb or below 2.5/kg. All producers matched it within 2-3 weeks. 10-15 years ago chicken producers were going broke. They looked for contracts. Processors stated it could not happen. Producers closed down sheds as it was not paying and within a year producers put the present system in place where the producer is paid a fixed cost/bird to cover his costs.

In reality it should not matter whether you are sending in 10, a hundred or a thousand. Well over 50% of cattle going for slaughter are finished by lads killing less than 20-30 cattle/year. Lads have to just stop gambling.

mf240

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It down to as simple as this processors will not give winter contracts as long as finishers are willing to take the risk . I think it was in the autumn of 2004 that with slaughter premium going after Christmas that Foyle meats promised a base of a pound/lb or 2.8/kg minimum after Christmas. At the time the beef price was sub 90p/lb or below 2.5/kg. All producers matched it within 2-3 weeks. 10-15 years ago chicken producers were going broke. They looked for contracts. Processors stated it could not happen. Producers closed down sheds as it was not paying and within a year producers put the present system in place where the producer is paid a fixed cost/bird to cover his costs.

In reality it should not matter whether you are sending in 10, a hundred or a thousand. Well over 50% of cattle going for slaughter are finished by lads killing less than 20-30 cattle/year. Lads have to just stop gambling.

While they are supported by off farm income and bfp they will continue to gamble.

Anto_Meath

mf240 wrote: »

While they are supported by off farm income and bfp they will continue to gamble.

It like the lad going in Paddy Power, I will win the next bet and that will make up for the losses......