Spawn Trapping Mumbo Jumbo

SantryRed

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Spawn trapping like a boss so we are! Only one team has stuck around for the whole game. LOOOOOOOOOOL

Getting all the kills

Is that not frowned upon?

Mr. Manager

SantryRed wrote: »

Is that not frowned upon?

Huh?

Leeg17

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Huh?

Spawn trapping I think is what he means.

DOC09UNAM

I don't know if that's an in joke or what but spawn trapping is fairly ****, it's what bad players do to get cheap kills.

x43r0

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I don't know if that's an in joke or what but spawn trapping is fairly ****, it's what bad players do to get cheap kills.

KERSPLAT!

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I don't know if that's an in joke or what but spawn trapping is fairly ****, it's what bad players do to get cheap kills.

No joke, had 5-6 games with the lads, Demo, spawn traps, lots of kills, lots of choppers, lots of fun nuf said

Mr. Manager

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I don't know if that's an in joke or what but spawn trapping is fairly ****, it's what bad players do to get cheap kills.

Surely you mean it's a way for good players to get easy kills? It's the bad players who get spawn trapped in the first place. Duh.

DOC09UNAM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I don't know if that's an in joke or what but spawn trapping is fairly ****, it's what bad players do to get cheap kills.

Surely you mean it's a way for good players to get easy kills? It's the bad players who get spawn trapped in the first place. Duh.

Very original.

has to be trolling so I shall leave it there.

SantryRed

IPAM wrote: »

No joke, had 5-6 games with the lads, Demo, spawn traps, lots of kills, lots of choppers, lots of fun nuf said

Brilliant. Ruin the game for other people. And yous are the ones who moan about people too. Arseholes.

DaveNoCheese

SantryRed wrote: »

Brilliant. Ruin the game for other people. And yous are the ones who moan about people too. Arseholes.

Spawn trapping is in no way a hack, cheat blah blah blah. It's just another tactic in the game!

Can be pretty lousy alright when your on the opposite side, but believe me I've been spawn trapped twice now and as sh!t as it was, we still managed to get out of it.

It's just little bitches that rage quit once spawn trapped, wheres the challenge, the fun even in that?!

KERSPLAT!

SantryRed wrote: »

Brilliant. Ruin the game for other people. And yous are the ones who moan about people too. Arseholes.

I bought the game for me to have fun, not other people.

DOC09UNAM

DaveNoCheese wrote: »

It's just little bitches that rage quit once spawn trapped, wheres the challenge, the fun even in that?!

Lol, you have to be kidding me.

everlast75

Sheesh!

You play Demolition, you plant the bomb and then you cover the numerous ways to reach and defuse the Bomb. It is basic sense.

You cap two flags and do the same thing to protect the flags you control, therefore its also basic sense.

If you don't like being trapped, go play TDM/Mercenary or alternatively, clan up and do something about it.

KERSPLAT!

Exactly everlast, even let the others win a round in Demo, more kills/killstreaks

actually, we even let the other team win a round in Demo, I'm sure when they pull it back to 1-1 they're havin fun!!

Faolchu

have to agree with everlast, I've been on the recieving end of a BRDS spawntrap and though it fckd me off no end getting blown to pieces every few seconds i enjoyed the challlange of trying to get out and LOLd when i took out the helimchopter not once but twince in the same game. granted I belive i went something liek 2-20 in that game coz i was ass raped but i did take out to copters so its all good in my book

and i've been in games of demo in BLOPs where we'd let them take the first round then open a can of woop ass and in a fair few games it was hard to take that game back even with spawn traps, coz some guys are not 12, theres a fair few out there that think about counter air support tactics and always carry a launcher in all classes

justsomebloke

IPAM wrote: »

I bought the game for me to have fun, not other people.

but by that reasoning you then can't complain that other people leave the game when they aren't having fun

yimrsg

justsomebloke wrote: »

but by that reasoning you then can't complain that other people leave the game when they aren't having fun

What about people dashboarding just because they're about to lose or because they're precious win streak is about to come to an end? Spawn trapping isn't forbidden in the Geneva convention so I think this vilification is unnecessary. Using spawntrapping as cover to lay into posters they don't like or agree with is far worse (that's not directed at you Justsomebloke).
Boards.ie's hard and fast rule is don't be a dick, elsewhere on the internet that isn't a requirement.

An increasing number of posters on this forum main involvement amounts to taking potshots at others for choosing a certain gun, a certain map, a certain game mode or a certain console etc. and it's becoming increasingly childish.

An xbox player got a high killstreak recently and posted about it, the begrudgers then chimed in as per usual, despite not being there, said it was due to camping. Rather than assume it was from playing good they automatically they tried to besmirch (thank you William Regal for teaching me that word) and belittle. It's pathetic.

DOC09UNAM

yimrsg wrote: »

justsomebloke wrote: »

but by that reasoning you then can't complain that other people leave the game when they aren't having fun

What about people dashboarding just because they're about to lose or because they're precious win streak is about to come to an end? Spawn trapping isn't forbidden in the Geneva convention so I think this vilification is unnecessary. Using spawntrapping as cover to lay into posters they don't like or agree with is far worse (that's not directed at you Justsomebloke).
Boards.ie's hard and fast rule is don't be a dick, elsewhere on the internet that isn't a requirement.

An increasing number of posters on this forum main involvement amounts to taking potshots at others for choosing a certain gun, a certain map, a certain game mode or a certain console etc. and it's becoming increasingly childish.

An xbox player got a high killstreak recently and posted about it, the begrudgers then chimed in as per usual, despite not being there, said it was due to camping. Rather than assume it was from playing good they automatically they tried to besmirch (thank you William Regal for teaching me that word) and belittle. It's pathetic.

What's pathetic is thinking spawn trapping takes any bit of skill at all.

If he wasn't spawn trapping then 47 killstreak would have been impressive but he was so it's meh.

DOC09UNAM

yimrsg wrote: »

justsomebloke wrote: »

but by that reasoning you then can't complain that other people leave the game when they aren't having fun

What about people dashboarding just because they're about to lose or because they're precious win streak is about to come to an end? Spawn trapping isn't forbidden in the Geneva convention so I think this vilification is unnecessary. Using spawntrapping as cover to lay into posters they don't like or agree with is far worse (that's not directed at you Justsomebloke).
Boards.ie's hard and fast rule is don't be a dick, elsewhere on the internet that isn't a requirement.

An increasing number of posters on this forum main involvement amounts to taking potshots at others for choosing a certain gun, a certain map, a certain game mode or a certain console etc. and it's becoming increasingly childish.

An xbox player got a high killstreak recently and posted about it, the begrudgers then chimed in as per usual, despite not being there, said it was due to camping. Rather than assume it was from playing good they automatically they tried to besmirch (thank you William Regal for teaching me that word) and belittle. It's pathetic.

Post amended, I was wrong in assuming the 47 streak was from spawn trapping

yimrsg

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

What's pathetic is thinking spawn trapping takes any bit of skill at all.

If he wasn't spawn trapping then 47 killstreak would have been impressive but he was so it's meh.

47 kills was done on domination.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=76471364&postcount=536

Does your high horse like sugar cubes?

PerrinV2

yimrsg wrote: »

An xbox player got a high killstreak recently and posted about it, the begrudgers then chimed in as per usual, despite not being there, said it was due to camping.

I said he was hacking not camping

DOC09UNAM

yimrsg wrote: »

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

What's pathetic is thinking spawn trapping takes any bit of skill at all.

If he wasn't spawn trapping then 47 killstreak would have been impressive but he was so it's meh.

47 kills was done on domination.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=76471364&postcount=536

Does your high horse like sugar cubes?

Are you attempting to say spawn trapping isn't possible on domination?

ugglasdav

Spawn trapping takes no skill, do you think at the start of the game the enemy team just sit in there spawn and wait?, as a team you have to push the enemy's back to there spawn and keep them from getting out

yimrsg

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Are you attempting to say spawn trapping isn't possible on domination?

Yup, pretty much impossible, played 80 or so hours in domination in mw3. What's your experience of playing domination? Domination spawns are the most random in any of the CoD series, you'd have to be rainman to predict where an enemy will spawn. Having enemies spawn looking at you or behind you wasn't a common occurrence in cod2, 3 or 4 modern warfare 2 and black ops. It's pretty much everyday in mw3 domination.

PerrinV2 wrote: »

I said he was hacking not camping

Hello Judas! Everyone knows your opinion doesn't count.

The Floyd p

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Are you attempting to say spawn trapping isn't possible on domination?

Would you ever shut the **** up **** stirring? You do enough of it on the Soccer Forum to last a lifetime, and now you come here to whine.

Fair play to Happi for getting a 47 KS! Post your high KS doc of else Shut your god damn trap

Deleting old emails. I missed this somehow. Post like this again and it's an infraction/ban,

DOC09UNAM

The Floyd p wrote: »

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Are you attempting to say spawn trapping isn't possible on domination?

Would you ever shut the **** up **** stirring? You do enough of it on the Soccer Forum to last a lifetime, and now you come here to whine.

Fair play to Happi for getting a 47 KS! Post your high KS doc of else Shut your god damn trap

Proof of **** stirring on the SF please?

You have a history of it yourself you know

Spawn trapping is a cheap way of getting kills, and letting them win a round so you can get more kills is even cheaper

So I shan't be shutting my trap young man but thanks for your valuable input.

Nuri Sahin

Zing.

Right, discuss this here. Key word is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t925JwYXhVA) DISCUSS. Not insult someone or tell someone to shut it for no other reason other than you disagreeing with his opinion, childish that. If something offends you, report it. Too many are incapable of this for whatever reason but there ya go. Thread Open.

GEasy

Spawn trapping in Blops demo is no better than FFA boosting in mw2 imho.

Cossax

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

What's pathetic is thinking spawn trapping takes any bit of skill at all.

If he wasn't spawn trapping then 47 killstreak would have been impressive but he was so it's meh.

Unless you were there, like I was, I think you should refrain from making any observations on how Happi kicked the oppositions' asses.

Magill

We all know spawn trapping is for the noobs who generally suck at the game and usually leave the lobby if they're matched against a party. Common CoD knowledge tis.

Mr. Manager

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

What's pathetic is thinking spawn trapping takes any bit of skill at all.

What's pathetic is begrudging someone for having a better killstreak than you.

With your previous posts you seem to be a bit of a WUM (thanks Everlast for reminding me of this one).

Magill

High killstreaks don't count if you got it by spawn trapping, imo.

Spike2010

TBF anyone who plays Dom and takes 2 flags to win is kinda spawn trapping anyway no? The Xbox lads i've played with beast in Kill Confirmed aswell as Dom, Demo etc. So they don't just "Spawn Trap" Anyway IMO whoever bought the Game can play it as they see fit.

Mr. Manager

Magill wrote: »

High killstreaks don't count if you got it by spawn trapping, imo.

Cossax wrote: »

Unless you were there, like I was, I think you should refrain from making any observations on how Happi kicked the oppositions' asses.

This.

I know you'll say you haven't said it directly but you're certainly suggesting it.

krudler

depends on how you're doing it imo, if you actually protecting flags and bomb sites and not just positioning yourself in a spot you know people will spawn and bombarding them with grenades for kills then its a fair tactic.

I guarantee you not one person who disagrees with spawn trapping has ever seen an enemy player out of their spawn and though "I'll let this guy cap a flag to swing the balance back so I dont feel so bad for spawn trapping these noobs"

mowing over another team is great craic :pac: and if you're on the recieving end then hey, camp for a streak, try get out of the trap and change your tactics, people who just run out of areas they know are well guarded are just being idiotic. like the idiots who file out like lemmings of C flag on Highrise, go UNDER the building you morons stop feeding the guy on the chopper pad kills!

DOC09UNAM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

What's pathetic is thinking spawn trapping takes any bit of skill at all.

What's pathetic is begrudging someone for having a better killstreak than you.

With your previous posts you seem to be a bit of a WUM (thanks Everlast for reminding me of this one).

You'll notice I've edited my post regards the 47 streak.


And lol @ calling me the wum and you posting the trolling pics, jog on mate.

Mr. Manager

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

You'll notice I've edited my post regards the 47 streak.


And lol @ calling me the wum and you posting the trolling pics, jog on mate.

Editing your post in this case means nothing. In your head you still think he spawn trapped/camped to get that. You only amended your post so people would stop pulling you up on something you know nothing about

Jev/N

Quoted from someone on another forum but reflects my views so I said I'd post it here

To be honest, spawn trapping is what separates a group of semi-competent players (and I'm using this very liberally here) from players who drool on their keyboards/controllers/whatever/. If you're playing, say, domination, spawn trapping helps ensure that the opponent is spawning directly in front of you and not all over the place like some retarded free-for-all lobby (assuming some mouth breather doesn't say, "GUYS IMH ELPING LOL" and try and rush the spawn trapped flag, flipping the god damned spawn).

This debate should not confuse spawn-trapping and spawn-camping, the latter is a Demo issue due to game design. Spawns never flip or move in that

Magill

Spike2010 wrote: »

TBF anyone who plays Dom and takes 2 flags to win is kinda spawn trapping anyway no? The Xbox lads i've played with beast in Kill Confirmed aswell as Dom, Demo etc. So they don't just "Spawn Trap" Anyway IMO whoever bought the Game can play it as they see fit.

Personally, i don't care how some1 plays the game.. but this thread is on spawn trapping.. and thats my opinion on people who go out of their way to spawn trap. Not directed at anyone in particular from here. Its just "camping" as a team, end of.

DOC09UNAM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

You'll notice I've edited my post regards the 47 streak.


And lol @ calling me the wum and you posting the trolling pics, jog on mate.

Editing your post in this case means nothing. In your head you still think he spawn trapped/camped to get that. You only amended your post so people would stop pulling you up on something you know nothing about

I don't think he spawn trapped as cossax has claimed otherwise and I believe him,

Don't care if he camped or not, the subject of the title is spawn trapping, which I'm aware he hasn't done and I apologise to him.


However, that doesn't change the fact spawn trapping is a cheap way of getting kills.

yimrsg

Without having a clear definition of what spawn trapping is (and for a majority concensus) this debate is destined to go around in circles before the inevitable mod intervention of a thread mercy kill.

DOC09UNAM

yimrsg wrote: »

Without having a clear definition of what spawn trapping is (and for a majority concensus) this debate is destined to go around in circles before the inevitable mod intervention of a thread mercy kill.

What's your definition of it?

Maybe we're all getting mixed up?

x43r0

How would people feel about this definition?

Controlling 60-80% of the map in the aim of ensuring the enemy team spawns only in the remaining 20-40% thus making it easier to predict enemy location and as a result make it easier to maximize kills and minimize deaths.

OriginalTom

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Surely you mean it's a way for good players to get easy kills? It's the bad players who get spawn trapped in the first place. Duh.

yimrsg

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

What's your definition of it?

Maybe we're all getting mixed up?

I'd base it on average life, so if you spawn and die within 3 or 4 seconds.

I split the blame 3 ways:

1. opposition team for doing it,
2. the games designers for not fixing it and
3. our own team for not countering it.

Played a game last night against an organised team on domination and they didn't spawn trap us (mw3's spawns are too random) but they definitely picked and stayed the most advantagous areas in the map. Simply put they controlled the map better and won .

Once a spawn trap happens it requires little effort and brings in huge rewards. You can replace the underlined part with the blackbird from blackops, the recon drone from mw3, the chopper in cod4, camping, head-glitching etc, oma/dc/noobtube so there are plenty of other things which are overpowered.

TheLynx

I believe spawn trapping is a tactic of the good players, you have to put in time to learn the spawn points of the other team on the map and be good enough to trap them,

I find that spawn trapping is less relevant on mw3 due to the random nature of spawns compared to mw2 where it was predictable

Bad players are the ones that get spawn trapped

ugglasdav

if your playing demo, and your in a full party against a load of randoms, the only thing you can really do is spawn trap, your not going to tell your team mates to back off and let them plant, your also not going to sit back towards the middle of the map and wait for them either

DOC09UNAM

But where is the enjoyment of killing them after four seconds over and over again, I mean I know you can get high KS's, but it's not challenging really, is it?

Magill

TheLynx wrote: »

I believe spawn trapping is a tactic of the good players, you have to put in time to learn the spawn points of the other team on the map and be good enough to trap them,

I find that spawn trapping is less relevant on mw3 due to the random nature of spawns compared to mw2 where it was predictable

Bad players are the ones that get spawn trapped

Not really tho... any party can spawn trap as long as they're not complete donkeys. I certainly wouldn't consider everyone who is capable of spawn trapping a "good" player, most of them are probably pretty bad if they're not grouped up. most of the time you'll end up vs a team of randomers anyway and we all know how good most randomers are !

If you're talking about spawn trapping decent, organised players.. i might agree with your post. But you aren't and I don't.

GEasy

ugglasdav wrote: »

if your playing demo, and your in a full party against a load of randoms, the only thing you can really do is spawn trap, your not going to tell your team mates to back off and let them plant, your also not going to sit back towards the middle of the map and wait for them either

But then you wouldn't get the three rounds for your choppers and dogs!


I don't think it takes any sort of real skill to spawn trap. Once you have a full / partially full party it's pretty easy.
I remember many times coming up against these 'beasts' judging by their stats (4+ KD ratios) in the pre game lobbies before going into a demo match. Needless to say they weren't very good and duly left after we got fast plant off.

I'm honestly a tad surprised about the stance some of the posters here are taking to the whole kill whoring demo debate. I've obviously misjudged a lot of people!

OriginalTom

Spawn trapping is insanely boring in a public environment. If you're playing in a full party against a group of completely random players, you have no excuse to spawn trap to the point where they can't even move out of spawn.

Surely the excitement of being a 'good' player is winning convincingly and quickly, rather than quite literally shooting fish in a barrel?

Also, to then boast about having such a high k/d and killstreak as a result of spawn trapping is just so pathetic. The amount of times I've lone wolfed against full parties trying to spawn trap and just ruined their day is unbelievable.

The problem is that anyone who spawn traps thinks they're semi decent, but as soon as they face another player of a similar or better standard they are immediately on the back foot.

Competitive spawn trapping is different, you're actually playing against players who are communicating and aren't complete drips. Video below is evidence for that, from ECL2, Flame Retardant get H2K in the nasty Havana spawn trap but only after an age of having to force them into it and great gun skill.

View from about 2:20 onwards to see what I mean:

http://youtu.be/qCdM2K2-u-w