201 Class Locomotives

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Apart from the guage is there much of a difference between the 66 and a 201?

choo choo man

66 has fuel injection,does not have vacuum brakes,slower operating speed to the 201's, ect ect.

flyingsnail

If I remember correctly the 66 has a different gearing setup that allows it to haul more weight but limits speed to 75 mph, there is also an additional sub class 66-6 which is limited to 65 mph but can haul even more. The class 201 is more of a mixed traffic loco, it can haul less but can go 100mph.

Losty Dublin

choo choo man wrote: »

66 has fuel injection,does not have vacuum brakes,slower operating speed to the 201's, ect ect.

All EMD 710's have fuel injectors. The 201's have a mechanical injector unit whereas the newer engines (post 95) such as a class 66 or 67 have an electrical unit fitted.

GBOA

The 66 has a higher fuel capacity. It doesn't have vac brakes or HEP as far as I know.

The 66/9 is the newer low emission version.

TheBandicoot

I think it's also safe to say that the 201 cab with its proper desk layout is much more ergonomic than the horrible painful mess of the 66 cab.

goingnowhere

choo choo man wrote: »

66 has fuel injection,does not have vacuum brakes,slower operating speed to the 201's, ect ect.

66 is also heavier and have radial steering bogies while the 201 has flexicoil and yaw dampers

201 has US style dual driving positions

Vac brakes are pretty well essential for any freight work in Ireland

davidlacey

Class 66 has a gross bhp of 3,300 , 201 lags behind with 3,200

The 66s also have a loud buzzer which sounds while the engine is being started. The 201s don't.

Markcheese

Karsini wrote: »

The 66s also have a loud buzzer which sounds while the engine is being started. The 201s don't.

Captain Chaos

davidlacey wrote: »

Class 66 has a gross bhp of 3,300 , 201 lags behind with 3,200

It's not so much to with over all HP but gearing ratios for and delivering the power for traction. A 201 generates 3,200hp max but 3,000hp gets to the motors, 200hp is lost to other factors. It can get to 100mph give or take but a 66 tops out at 75mph give to take.

Besides a single class 66 can haul more than even 2 201s together. The class 59, again at 3,200hp can haul way more than a 66.

Jamie2k9

209 in Waterford shut down for the weekend.

choo choo man

Losty Dublin wrote: »

All EMD 710's have fuel injectors. The 201's have a mechanical injector unit whereas the newer engines (post 95) such as a class 66 or 67 have an electrical unit fitted.

Correct,
I meant to include the word electronic to above.

Jonathan

Just saw 221 in Connolly Maintenance Sheds attached to a Mk3 generator van in Enterprise livery. Couldn't see if the rest of the Enterprise rake were attached in the shed.

Have the Mk3 structural issues been sorted then?

postitnote

I was passed by a 201 and 3 (I think) EGVs on their way to Belfast yesterday around about 1.30pm close to lisburn. Perhaps they are being trialled again?

Captain Chaos

Amazing that they can run a non TPWS 201 to Belfast when they want to. Same last year when 082 hauled 2 EGVs to York Road.

pointsman

221 worked an 1125 Connolly / York Road transfer with 4 Enterprise Mk3 Gen Vans. 221 then returned light engine to Dublin getting the Connolly crew back in time for tea :-)

Photos of the unusual movement -

http://chrisplayfair.smugmug.com/Travel/2013-Photos/July-2013/30406982_TZ3Bjb#!i=2624724388&k=R2LBpSQ

Jamie2k9

pointsman wrote: »

221 worked an 1125 Connolly / York Road transfer with 4 Enterprise Mk3 Gen Vans. 221 then returned light engine to Dublin getting the Connolly crew back in time for tea :-)

Photos of the unusual movement -

http://chrisplayfair.smugmug.com/Travel/2013-Photos/July-2013/30406982_TZ3Bjb#!i=2624724388&k=R2LBpSQ[/QUOTE]

Notice you took a shot of the new logo on the ICR's, looks good on them, do all coaches per set have it?

pointsman

No that was the only coach out of that set that had them...Although I'm sure Portlaoise will get round to doing the lot soon enough!

davidlacey

227 on the enterprise

n0brain3r

215 and 217 worked an IWT each today

davidlacey

207 on enterprise and 8208 parked beside connolly shed

Jonathan

Guess what's back on Enterprise duty?! :-)

I couldn't see Enterprise as it passed by this morning, but thought it sounded unusually quiet. Got into Connolly and my suspicions were confirmed.

n0brain3r

Generator van?

gordy712

Jonathan wrote: »

Guess what's back on Enterprise duty?! :-)

I couldn't see Enterprise as it passed by this morning, but thought it sounded unusually quiet. Got into Connolly and my suspicions were confirmed.

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The van was put on the 15:00 Enterprise to Dublin on Sunday 28.7.13 ,van number is 89608

link to 2 pics I took on Sunday of the train

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/30451511_WW29sr#!i=2665984563&k=c7pnX2T&lb=1&s=A

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/30451511_WW29sr#!i=2665984574&k=XJT38XG&lb=1&s=A

cython

davidlacey wrote: »

227 on the enterprise

And again today, 227 just pushed an enterprise into Connolly in the last 5 mins

nerve agent

29/07/13

233 was held at York Gate with the empty stock off the 2050 ex Connolly (complete with EGV) whilst 112 left the depot running light to Adelaide. 112 later worked 3 Geismarr wagons to Bangor.

cmore123

The reason NIR added "8" was to identify all rail vehicles as being NOT buses in the overall Translink records at the time. Thus, "Castle" and "80" class railcars also had 8 added. All fine and dandy until the CAF's appeared - now they have "3", "4", and "8" numbers in their lists...

As for the new European system, which we can be glad for, as it will ensure that an IE or NIR train is protected from straying into Moldova or Finland, I understand that heritage locos - e.g. the RPSI's - may also be allocated these numbers but do not have to carry them!

I suppose Downpatrick is exempt. But is it? I wonder. If the whole of Ireland, an island, is not exempt, then Downpatrick arguably shouldn't be either. In fact, it's more likely for an ex IE or NIR vehicle to go there, or in theory at least a Downpatrick vehicle go to the main system, than any of the above going to the UK or mainland Eurpoe!

Captain Chaos

The UIC number system is not European, it's world wide except for the USA.

metrovick001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCa-QpMMglc

201 class & MK3s south of Sallins 14-March-2008