UFC 142

jayteecork

Agreed with the Johnson takedowns being stood up.

It was too weird. Call me a conspiracy theorist all you want but I wouldn't be surprised if the order to kill Johnson's ground and pound game came all the way from the top.

cowzerp

jayteecork wrote: »

Agreed with the Johnson takedowns being stood up.

It was too weird. Call me a conspiracy theorist all you want but I wouldn't be surprised if the order to kill Johnson's ground and pound game came all the way from the top.

The stand ups where quick, Johnson should have copped that after the 1st time-all he had to do was be busy, in fairness he was not busy at all when in guard.

2 things would have been at play either way.
1 the missing weight so bad he was always going to have a hard time from officials even if it's subconscious

2. The local fans where very vocal and this can affect refs decision making.

MrStuffins

And perhaps Mergiotta was of the opinion that, with Johnson being is such a state the night before, that he'd be looking for 15 mins of lying in the guard. So he made sure it didn't happen.

pauldoo

when i watched it i fast forwarded the interviews, didnt know he was disqualified till i seen it on mmajunkie, just rewatched it, joe rogan is out of order, yamasaki seen blows to the back the head and warned him and there were more, he didnt get to see it 15 times in slow mo like rogan, the officials should remiain out of the spotlight and out of interviews, it will end up like football with refs getting influenced by people. I like rogan but he should not have done that, very unfair on yamasaki

Stephen_King

MrStuffins wrote: »

And perhaps Mergiotta was of the opinion that, with Johnson being is such a state the night before, that he'd be looking for 15 mins of lying in the guard. So he made sure it didn't happen.

I would have thought the same thing, but he broke up the clinches against the cage early as well.
Also it seems that Silva has been paid his win bonus despite being disqualified-completely undermines the refereeing...

jayteecork

W Accum Aldo v Mendes : To Win Fight Aldo, Joe 4/11 Won
Belfort v Johnson : To Win Fight Belfort, Vitor 5/7 Won
Palhares v Massenzio : To Win Fight Palhares, Rousimar 1/5 Won
Gonzaga v Oliveira : To Win Fight Gonzaga, Gabriel 10/13 Won
Tavares v Stout : To Win Fight Stout, Sam 11/10 Lost NOOOOOOOOOOO

Turbo_diesel

Agree with the points on Rogan last night he was a joke. Questioning Yamazaki on live TV straight after the fight like that was way out of line. The soccer kick comments are also a bloody joke!
See when Rogan asked Belfort was Johnson disrespectful by missing weight he said yes & that he had cut 25lbs in 4days for the weigh-in!!

pauldoo

was a great card in the end! i invited a few friends over to watch it, trying to get them into ufc so it worked out well, its the third card they've been over for, seen about 20 fights and i think 2 have gone the distance.

Aldo was class, and his celebration
Vitor was good but looked like he was gassing, rumble defo gassed

JacksonHeightsOwn

Turbo_diesel wrote: »

Agree with the points on Rogan last night he was a joke. Questioning Yamazaki on live TV straight after the fight like that was way out of line. The soccer kick comments are also a bloody joke!
See when Rogan asked Belfort was Johnson disrespectful by missing weight he said yes & that he had cut 25lbs in 4days for the weigh-in!!

im no expert, but im going to hazard a guess that some ufc fighters are cutting too much weight.

its only a matter of time until somebody gets hurt

jayteecork

Rogan seems like he's losing the plot.

Last time he was claiming Lesnar won the UFC belt in the toughest manner possible.

Turbo_diesel

chrisbonnie wrote: »

im no expert, but im going to hazard a guess that some ufc fighters are cutting too much weight.

its only a matter of time until somebody gets hurt

Barry Mcguigan says in his book that when fighters cut extreme amounts of weight through dehydration etc close to a weigh-in that it leaves them more prone to a knockout. Apparently there is alot less fluid around the brain & this is not replaced straight away even after ryhydration. He thinks this is one of the reasons the Nigerian fighter Young Ali died after he went into a coma after he knocked him out in their bout.
Johnson looks like he should be fighting at light heavy weight. What the hell did he cut when he fought Dan Hardy?

Minstrel27

jayteecork wrote: »

Rogan seems like he's losing the plot.

Last time he was claiming Lesnar won the UFC belt in the toughest manner possible.

No doubt he is under orders about what to say. Some of what he says is complete horse ****.

pauldoo

Bad time for rogan acting the maggot with the possablity of ken flo goin full time into media and and ufc signing john annik

cowzerp

pauldoo wrote: »

the possablity of ken flo goin full time into media and and ufc signing

ken flo is really good in the role, I really would love to see him take over from rogan, and bas ruttens from goldie

jayteecork

Lovely addition to Terry Etim's wiki page.
(screen grabbed in case it's edited)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1236/wwwhd.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Etim

jayteecork

cowzerp wrote: »

ken flo is really good in the role, I really would love to see him take over from rogan, and bas ruttens from goldie

Thought Bonnar was good in the WEC days.

I think it's time both Goldie and Rogan left the booth.

The Strikeforce play announcer is far better than Goldberg imo.

Professey Chin

We need The Voice!!!

Hococop

great card overall,

while the Johnson belfort fight might have been stood up quick i didn't have a problem with it i though the last 2 times they were separated Johnson wasn't doing much.

As for rogan i didnt see any problem with interviewing Mario. from what i have seen online i believe more people are trying to side with mario just because joe interviewed him. i remember when mir fought lesnar first time and lesner got deducted one point for shots to the back of the head i rarely saw anyone defend steves decision to take a point away and said it was a stupid call, i believe its because of joe interviewing him people are trying to defend marios decision

also when belfort fought akiama i remember belfort landing more dangerous and obvious shots to the back of the head than silva did yet mario seemed to give belfot the decision (and im a belfort fan)

Hococop

Turbo_diesel wrote: »

See when Rogan asked Belfort was Johnson disrespectful by missing weight he said yes & that he had cut 25lbs in 4days for the weigh-in!!

i remember seeing that interview i believe belfot said it first (that it was not professional for Johnson to come in overweight) joe only followed up on what belfort said about johnsons weight cut

jayteecork

chrisbonnie wrote: »

Back on topic, Aldo will have to fight Edgar now, be it at 145 or 155, both men have basically cleaned up their divisions, so a unification is the best option for mma in general

The Korean Zombie deserves a shot off Aldo.
Could be a good one too, can't see Aldo losing but it could go all 5 rounds.

Hococop

jayteecork wrote: »

Thought Bonnar was good in the WEC days.

I think it's time both Goldie and Rogan left the booth.

The Strikeforce play announcer is far better than Goldberg imo.

Mir i also thought is a pretty good commentator for the future

Mellor

chrisbonnie wrote: »

Back on topic, Aldo will have to fight Edgar now, be it at 145 or 155, both men have basically cleaned up their divisions, so a unification is the best option for mma in general

aside from the 155 division being stacked, you can't have a unification of two weights. One would have to release their title.

Mellor

Stephen_King wrote: »

I would have thought the same thing, but he broke up the clinches against the cage early as well.
Also it seems that Silva has been paid his win bonus despite being disqualified-completely undermines the refereeing...

That's completely standard when somebody is given a harsh decision, DQs or a split going the wrong way, when one fighter was clearly in front.

We can argue all day about ear muffs and Mohawks but at the end of the day it's very easy to find a similar finish that was not a DQ.

jayteecork

Hococop wrote: »

Mir i also thought is a pretty good commentator for the future

dunno he's a small bit of a toolbag imo.

rabbitinlights

Turbo_diesel wrote: »

Barry Mcguigan says in his book that when fighters cut extreme amounts of weight through dehydration etc close to a weigh-in that it leaves them more prone to a knockout. Apparently there is alot less fluid around the brain & this is not replaced straight away even after ryhydration. He thinks this is one of the reasons the Nigerian fighter Young Ali died after he went into a coma after he knocked him out in their bout.
Johnson looks like he should be fighting at light heavy weight. What the hell did he cut when he fought Dan Hardy?

This is a great read about cutting weight in MMA

MrStuffins

cowzerp wrote: »

ken flo is really good in the role, I really would love to see him take over from rogan, and bas ruttens from goldie

Michael Schiavello in for Goldie

Bas Rutten in for Joe Rogan

it would be incredible!

Hococop

jayteecork wrote: »

dunno he's a small bit of a toolbag imo.

im a fan of mir and agree he talks some **** when he is getting ready for a fight but i still think he is a good commentator

MrStuffins

I liked Mir on the WEC broadcasts but he's a tad annoying and he gets the fighters' names wrong sometimes. I remember him constantly saying "Carlos Conduct" :rolleyes:

Rogan is an excellent colour commentator by the way. But he's been getting very big for his boots the last couple of events.

Be like Nutella

Rogan IS the UFC.... enough of that lark... and Goldie is GOD !

That was a fcukin amazing UFC...crowd was mental...like riot mental crazy

Palhares is a scary hulkimut warrior freakshow...that heel hook was rotten stuff
Barboza's Spinning hook kick / wheel kick / spinning kick whatever ya wana call it was only bleedin sweeeeet.... awww the days when I could do one like that in the mirror of my taekwondo class : ) like some kind of mental balarina

Belfort was just brilliant... that AJ dude looked mad in the head...absolutely no game plan...came out swingin donkey kicks like Belfort has raped his sister....delighted for Phenom

Aldo was just Aldo...completely out classing in every way his opponent makin him look like a bum....great crowd dive though....didn't know what the hell he was doing

jayteecork

Be like Nutella wrote: »

Aldo was just Aldo...completely out classing in every way his opponent makin him look like a bum....great crowd dive though....didn't know what the hell he was doing

A "crowd dive"?