Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

tc20 · 02-02-2013 1:56am

^are those rear drop down armrests? never seen that before...

here's a 406 coupe with hide and a bit of ensiti for €800

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4507112

CianRyan · 02-02-2013 2:25am

166man wrote: »

Ah pack it in like, the 2.0 has 30bhp more but is also heavier. The 1.6 is very nippy for its engine size. One of the more powerful 1.6 N/A petrol engines iirc.

Ah come on, man. b16, SR16VE, 4A-GE and the rest of the jap 1.6's are all over that engine.

It's a nice little engine alright, don't get me wrong but with an SR16 N1 putting out 200bhp from factory the little twin spark is seriously down on power. :pac:

dgt · 02-02-2013 2:41am

CianRyan wrote: »

Ah come on, man. b16, SR16VE, 4A-GE and the rest of the jap 1.6's are all over that engine.

It's a nice little engine alright, don't get me wrong but with an SR16 N1 putting out 200bhp from factory the little twin spark is seriously down on power. :pac:

But those are homologation engines (racing engines if I may) designed to compete against each other... Not exactly everyday material. I'm open to corrections

I think we all need to look the other way, as in weedy 1.6's. Fiat's own 1581cc had only 103bhp by comparison to the T.Spark, also 16v and MPI. E46 1.6 had the same power and was woeful to drive.

Or lets go bigger? Peugeot 406 1.8, 114bhp. Renault Laguna 1.8, 118bhp.

My point is compare like with like. Looking a those figures I've posted, does the T.Spark seem so bad? Does it look underpowered compared to its rivals?

Ded_Zebra · 02-02-2013 2:45am

dgt wrote: »

But those are homologation engines (racing engines if I may) designed to compete against each other... Not exactly everyday material. I'm open to corrections

I think we all need to look the other way, as in weedy 1.6's. Fiat's own 1581cc had only 103bhp by comparison to the T.Spark, also 16v and MPI. E46 1.6 had the same power and was woeful to drive.

Or lets go bigger? Peugeot 406 1.8, 114bhp. Renault Laguna 1.8, 118bhp.

My point is compare like with like. Looking a those figures I've posted, does the T.Spark seem so bad? Does it look underpowered compared to its rivals?

I would have to disagree with you there, those jap engines are more than capable of handling everyday use when making that kind of power. The 4A-GE in my car has just over 230,000Km on it without a bother

dgt · 02-02-2013 2:52am

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

I would have to disagree with you there, those jap engines are more than capable of handling everyday use when making that kind of power. The 4A-GE in my car has just over 230,000Km on it without a bother

Best response, from someone who owns one!

I'll stop before I dig myself into another hole so :pac:

CianRyan · 02-02-2013 2:55am

The N1 is the only racing derived engine ( Nismo use the N1 name for race engines, mostly in GT-Rs), the rest, although sporty, are everyday drivers.
The b16 in the EK9 is almost on par with the N1 and is seriously strong. Even the less powerful version in the more everyday EK4 has ~160bhp I think and of course the standard SR16VE is very much a typical 90's Nissan engine. Can't forget Mitzi's MIVEC Lancers and Colts either, very quick cars.

They were all going mad to out do each other alright, they're still far more powerful than what the Europeans were putting out at the time.

JohnBoy26 · 02-02-2013 3:03am

dgt wrote: »

But those are homologation engines (racing engines if I may) designed to compete against each other... Not exactly everyday material. I'm open to corrections

I think your thinking about Imprezas and Evos

The rest mentioned such as the b16 engine were used in everyday family cars and werent built for homologation purposes.

Esel · 02-02-2013 3:04am

tc20 wrote: »

here's a 406 coupe with hide and a bit of ensiti for €800
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4507112

I like that!

dgt wrote: »

...homologation...

And I like that word (especially when pronounced in a mainland European accent).

But I do not like when you post a 406 of any kind. Funny old world, no?

At least say it's a 406 when you post so I don't have to click the link to find out. Pretty please. With hundreds and thousands on top. :pac:

dgt · 02-02-2013 3:07am

Esel wrote: »

I like that!

And I like that word (especially when pronounced in a mainland European accent).

But I do not like when you post a 406 of any kind. Funny old world, no?

At least say it's a 406 when you post so I don't have to click the link to find out. Pretty please. With hundreds and thousands on top. :pac:

I've been very good this year I'll have you know! Only 2 this year

But I'll still keep posting them, if they're good value. Without any warning

RidleyRider · 02-02-2013 3:10am

dgt wrote: »

I've been very good this year I'll have you know! Only 2 this year

But I'll still keep posting them, if they're good value.Without any warning

Maaad Cnut!:pac:

dgt · 02-02-2013 3:11am

dgt wrote: »

Without any warning

Okay.... Just this once, here's one

NCT till June, 500

Tax till May, diesel

Now. Next one will be as normal :pac:

RidleyRider · 02-02-2013 3:15am

To say we weren't expecting that would be an understatement :P

dgt · 02-02-2013 3:26am

RidleyRider wrote: »

To say we weren't expecting that would be an understatement :P

What's next from my sleeve.... :pac:

NCT till Sept, 850

Looks tired.... What rubbish pics! Why a Vectra interior pic?

NCT till Jan 14, 1250

NCT till June, 1850

Tax till Aug

NCT till Aug, 680

Diesel

NCT till Aug, 790

RidleyRider · 02-02-2013 3:31am

Two different phone numbers on the 3-series BMW. Wonder what that's about?

dgt · 02-02-2013 3:35am

RidleyRider wrote: »

Two different phone numbers on the 3-series BMW. Wonder what that's about?

On the Donegal one, I haven't a clue... Possible work phone personal phone but I'm only speculating

JohnBoy26 · 02-02-2013 3:44am

dgt wrote: »

What's next from my sleeve.... :pac:

NCT till Sept, 850

Looks tired.... What rubbish pics! Why a Vectra interior pic?

Id run a mile if the merc had an interior like that:pac:

RidleyRider · 02-02-2013 3:50am

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4450137

Nothin' to do with bangernomics but how ridiculous is this?

Esel · 02-02-2013 4:02am

RidleyRider wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4450137

Nothin' to do with bangernomics but how ridiculous is this?

You want buy car? No call dgt (he like only 406 for strange some reason) - call me!

dgt · 02-02-2013 4:05am

Esel wrote: »

You want buy car? No call dgt (he like only 406 for strange some reason) - call me!

As long as I can keep that image up, then when no one is looking.... :pac::pac::pac:

Esel · 02-02-2013 4:07am

dgt wrote: »

As long as I can keep that image up, then when no one is looking.... :pac::pac::pac:

English we post here.

dgt · 02-02-2013 4:10am

Esel wrote: »

English we post here.

But... But... But....

Esel · 02-02-2013 4:22am

dgt wrote: »

But... But... But....

RidleyRider wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4450137

Nothin' to do with bangernomics but how ridiculous is this?

Read the ad again once plz.

Ze gist is bring engineer you must. €100 you pay (to me, in cash). I check car so you no have try.

Saab Ed · 02-02-2013 9:35am

Sexy, modern or luxury? Nope. Perfect bangernomics though after a big big haggle.....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4505987

Saab Ed · 02-02-2013 9:44am

Possible modern classic in the making!!!!! Although I'd say the pre facelift Mk1 of these is the real modern classic in the future, mark my words.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4299438

Saab Ed · 02-02-2013 9:51am

...... like this one

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4312596

Bound to haggle 2-300 quid off. These Coupes kinda never showed up on my radar before. Even I'll have to admit that they do offer great stylish value.

Saab Ed · 02-02-2013 9:56am

Lovely mileage.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4482456

TestTransmission · 02-02-2013 10:03am

Saab Ed wrote: »

Possible modern classic in the making!!!!! Although I'd say the pre facelift Mk1 of these is the real modern classic in the future, mark my words.

Really?

There's nothing special about them.

Saab Ed · 02-02-2013 10:06am

TestTransmission wrote: »

Really? There's nothing special about them.

I'd say think Capri or the 00's. The interiors might be crap but the styling was so on the money. It hurts me to complement a Korean car so much

dgt · 02-02-2013 10:25am

Esel wrote: »

Read the ad again once plz.

Ze gist is bring engineer you must. €100 you pay (to me, in cash). I check car so you no have try.

Oh the ad! Yes, seems legit....

langdang · 02-02-2013 12:04pm

Esel wrote: »

"3 mths left on NCT" - why TF won't the seller just put it through the test and both (i) hugely increase the chances of a quick sale and (ii) allow them to ask a higher price?

Btw, I'm expecting a reply shortly to say it's sold already!

Point still stands though... I think it's either because people don't know they can do the test 3 months early, or that the car is not insured or taxed or whatever so can't be driven to the centre.

There is only one reason people sell a car with less than 3months nct.
the car has been nct'd, and failed.
Waaay too many cars for sale with just less than 3months for it to be anything else.

Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

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