Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

dgt

Saab Ed wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4455981

Now an ad for security cameras!

RidleyRider wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4455840

For 250e you couldn't go too far wrong! Paint looks fresh on her. NCT it and pass it on for a tidy profit!

Lying up for years? Budget for wishbones, track rods, drop links, easily the price of the car. Maybe an exhaust if the tailbox is flaky. The rear arms are a pig to change

But tidy looking indeed

Kintarō Hattori

RidleyRider wrote: »

So something upto 1.4 or so?

She's become quite the little enthusiast and wants something with more poke, so up as far as 1.6. I'll get in trouble for it but would look at cars up to 2L as well, if it was worth it. Autos are out as, as shocking as it may be, the little K11 has really given her a liking for shifting gears.

The main requirements for her are something reliable/economical/not overly large, while I'd like a little luxury/safety.

RidleyRider

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

She's become quite the little enthusiast and wants something with more poke, so up as far as 1.6. I'll get in trouble for it but would look at cars up to 2L as well, if it was worth it. Autos are out as, as shocking as it may be, the little K11 has really given her a liking for shifting gears.

The main requirements for her are something reliable/economical/not overly large, while I'd like a little luxury/safety.

Whats the driving like? Motorway? City?

dgt

NCT till Sept, 800

Taxed till April, DW8

langdang

RidleyRider wrote: »

A 2 litre petrol Kia estate practical? Maybe if it was a diesel..

I've had more than one practical 2l petrol estate?? They.weren't as fugly as the kia tho.

Esel

deadlast wrote: »

. - I'm in Dublin regularly.

How much are you prepared to spend? - Less than 1500

How much are you prepared to lose after 8 months? - Very little, ideally bag a bargain I can sell around the same price

Petrol or diesel, or either? - Doesn't matter

Max engine size? (motor tax considerations....). - less than 2.4, but small engine would be grand.

How important (or not) is auto? - Not important at all but I like it.

Why do you want an estate? (family size, or load carrying etc). - Dog and need to keep rear seats clean for passengers

Would you consider an MPV? - Not really, too young!

The bold bits don't really match.

If you buy a banger over 2.0 (and probably even over 1.5), your sell-on audience shrinks very rapidly.

One of the main planks of bangernomics is that you do not expect anything more than scrap value when you are finished with it. If you do better than that, it's a bonus.

There are plenty of manual good bangernomics estates out there costing well under 1K. A lesser number of good autos. Autos are harder to sell on though (although as I said, selling on is a bonus anyway).

So, you can probably buy a better auto estate for less than an equivalent manual one, and the pain of walking away will be a bit less. Fuel costs will be slightly higher, as you know.

My advice would be to look for something with enough NCT for you (with a bit to spare if possible), and enough or almost enough tax too. Subtract the value of the tax, and the value to you of not having to do an NCT, and there you have the 'actual' cost of the car to you over the usage period.

Off-topic a bit:

The c.c. tax rates are mad, especially in the non-linear increments that are there e.g. 999 c.c. versus 1099 c.c. There are plenty of other hiccups on the graph...

c.c.             Year     6 mth    3 mth    Arrears (Per Month)

0000 - 1000      199      110      56      16.58
1001 - 1100      299      165      84      24.92
1101 - 1200      330      183      93      27.50
1201 - 1300      358      198     101      29.83
1301 - 1400      385      213     108      32.08
1401 - 1500      413      229     116      34.42
1501 - 1600      514      285     145      42.83
1601 - 1700      544      301     153      45.33
1701 - 1800      636      352     179      53.00
1801 - 1900      673      373     190      56.08
1901 - 2000      710      394     200      59.17
2001 - 2100      906      502     255      75.50
2101 - 2200      951      527     268      79.25
2201 - 2300      994      551     280      82.83
2301 - 2400     1034      573     292      86.17
2401 - 2500     1080      599     305      90.00
2501 - 2600     1294      718     365     107.83
2601 - 2700     1345      746     379     112.08
2701 - 2800     1391      772     392     115.92
2801 - 2900     1443      800     407     120.25
2901 - 3000     1494      829     422     124.50
3001 - 15000    1809     1003     511     150.75

Soarer

Noticed that about the tax yesterday.

My yoke is between 1600 and 11700, so she's taxed as a 1.7. But for me to buy a 1.8 and move into the 1700 to 1800 bracket, it'll cost me an extra €26 per quarter. But it's only €11 to go from 1.8 to 1.9, and only another tenner to move into the next bracket again!

Mental.

Kintarō Hattori

RidleyRider wrote: »

Whats the driving like? Motorway? City?

Motorway (I think I'll start a new thread as I don't want to drag this off topic).

166man

Now here's a nice little thing...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4457280



New NCT, Tax until April, all assorted belts etc done including water pump. Looks like a well minded little runner.

Buy it and run it for 9 months doing small mileage and run it through the NCT again see if it passes. If it does with small work, sell it on for more or less what you paid or just keep it for another year.

Ultimate bangernomics IMO and it's not a sh1tbox car either...:)

unkel

Fab little cars the sportings. Their road holding / chassis is up there with much more expensive hot hatches a full class up

dgt

NCT till June, 550

A rough looking puppy...

Soarer

166man wrote: »

Now here's a nice little thing...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4457280



New NCT, Tax until April, all assorted belts etc done including water pump. Looks like a well minded little runner.

Buy it and run it for 9 months doing small mileage and run it through the NCT again see if it passes. If it does with small work, sell it on for more or less what you paid or just keep it for another year.

Ultimate bangernomics IMO and it's not a sh1tbox car either...:)

unkel wrote: »

Fab little cars the sportings. Their road holding / chassis is up there with much more expensive hot hatches a full class up

Is 112k miles not a lot of mileage for a little 1.3?

advertsfox

Soarer wrote: »

Is 112k miles not a lot of mileage for a little 1.3?

13 years old so it averaged c. 8500 a year - I've done 7000 in the last 4 months

langdang

Soarer wrote: »

Is 112k miles not a lot of mileage for a little 1.3?

Compared to say, an underpowered 1.4 in something as heavy as a Golf or a Focus?

166man

advertsfox wrote: »

13 years old so it averaged c. 8500 a year - I've done 7000 in the last 4 months

I also have 7000 miles done in my Alfa the last four months and that hasn't completely collapsed so this Fiat with it's history and recent work should be fine!:D

dgt

Soarer wrote: »

Is 112k miles not a lot of mileage for a little 1.3?

They're a cracking little engine, the 16v FIRE.

112k miles is nothing to them once properly maintained. Coolant changes and monitoring of the cooling system ensure that the HG is kept happy

Needless to say, we have a good few of those engines here with higher miles than that on them

Irishder

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4461366


Too good to be true

For Forks Sake

Irishder wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4461366


Too good to be true

#No tax, no test, needs coils- and that's all thats mentioned. I'd suspect it could well be a money pit.

JohnBoy26

A bullet proof Accord http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3713200

166man

And another cool little old skool yoke here..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4457469



Bargain classic if it checks out. I like it.

Bigus

Irishder wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4461366


Too good to be true

Well worth a punt , it's only a 2 litre

JohnBoy26

166man wrote: »

And another cool little old skool yoke here..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4457469



Bargain classic if it checks out. I like it.

If only it was manual. Id definitely be going to see it if it was. It looks a like a lovely clean motor.

Top Dog

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If only it was manual. Id definitely be going to see it if it was. It looks a like a lovely clean motor.

If it was a manual it'd probably be priced closer to 2k

dgt

NCT till May, 1375

Everyone wants diesel.... :pac:


NCT till Sept, 2000

RJ where are you


NCT till Jan 14, 1150

Diesel

Jimdagym

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4314197

Can't post pic (on iPad).
Anyway, this probably doesn't belong here BUT...
2004 gs300 €2950
Tax 12/12
Nct 06/14

The tax paid would bring it into bangernomics budget. I'd jump at this if I had the cash

colm_mcm

Jimdagym wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4314197

Can't post pic (on iPad).
Anyway, this probably doesn't belong here BUT...
2004 gs300 €2950
Tax 12/12
Nct 06/14

The tax paid would bring it into bangernomics budget. I'd jump at this if I had the cash

Get the imageshack app

JohnBoy26

Top Dog wrote: »

If it was a manual it'd probably be priced closer to 2k

I know and it would probably be worth every penny too.

Esel

Jimdagym wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4314197

Can't post pic (on iPad).
Anyway, this probably doesn't belong here BUT...
2004 gs300 €2950
Tax 12/12
Nct 06/14

The tax paid would bring it into bangernomics budget. I'd jump at this if I had the cash

I think you misread the tax...

Jimdagym

Esel wrote: »

I think you misread the tax...

Ha! Completely.
Still a good deal, but not for this thread.

Sorr-E!

biko

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/4459392
NCT until Jan 2014
Auto box.
€1150, not bad.