Crean's lager

the beer revolu

I seriously wonder if what they're doing is legal (assuming that the bottles are brewed outside of Ireland). Can you clearly label something as "Fresh Irish Lager" if it's isn't made in Ireland?

BeerNut

the beer revolu wrote: »

I seriously wonder if what they're doing is legal (assuming that the bottles are brewed outside of Ireland). Can you clearly label something as "Fresh Irish Lager" if it's isn't made in Ireland?

Yep. See "Caffrey's Irish Ale", for instance. The law says that if a product is associated with a particular place to the extent that people might think it's actually from there, then the place of origin must be stated. Unfortunately the law also allows "Brewed in the EU" to count for that purpose, even though it's not actually helpful to the consumer. You can also put "Brewed in Denmark and Ireland" on a can of Carlsberg in the full knowledge that none of the beer that will ever be labelled so will be brewed in Denmark.

And I'm pretty sure none of that even applies to draught beer, so if the "Craft Collection" Shandon Stout and Rebel Red that are popping up on bars everywhere are indeed made in the UK, there's no obligation for us to be told about it anywhere, AFAIK.

drumswan

the beer revolu wrote: »

I seriously wonder if what they're doing is legal (assuming that the bottles are brewed outside of Ireland). Can you clearly label something as "Fresh Irish Lager" if it's isn't made in Ireland?

You can label your beer 'Russian Imperial Stout' when its not made in Russia. Maybe 'Irish Lager' is a brand new style theyve invented

drumswan

BaZmO* wrote: »

Not a problem if they're upfront about it.

It doesnt say 'Brewed in the UK' on any bottle of Fran Well Ive seen.

ciaran76

Has anyone asked them where they brew it?

BeerNut

Chrome.ie wrote: »

Molsen Coors are Producing,Bottling and keging all Franciscian Well products in the UK

Chrome.ie wrote: »

The brewery in Cork is producing draught for the brewpub and a cork pub group. They also do the limited editions

Two slightly different positions there, Chrome.ie. Is it that pubs who had a previous contract with FW are still getting FW beer, but that new customers buying FW-branded beer via Molson Coors are getting UK-brewed beer?

Knifey Spoony

drumswan wrote: »

It doesnt say 'Brewed in the UK' on any bottle of Fran Well Ive seen.

Just as a matter of interest what Fran Well bottles have you seen? Rebel Red hasn't been bottled since before the take over. There were 3 limited edition brews since the take over (Jameson Stout, Citra IPA & Coffee Porter), each just having two thousand bottles, which the Well could easily do in the brew pub. I can't remember any other of their stuff being bottled off the top of my head now.

drumswan

Knifey Spoony wrote: »

Just as a matter of interest what Fran Well bottles have you seen? Rebel Red hasn't been bottled since before the take over. There were 3 limited edition brews since the take over (Jameson Stout, Citra IPA & Coffee Porter), each just having two thousand bottles, which the Well could easily do in the brew pub. I can't remember any other of their stuff being bottled off the top of my head now.

Good point, Ive only seen Alpha Dawg, IPA and Coffee Porter bottles which were all limited additions AFAIR

BeerNut

Here's an official response from Franciscan Well about the contract questions.

Colonel Sanders

Had this on an Aer Lingus flight last Monday

Thought it was absolutely horrible tbh. I simply don't drink lager much anymore (tasteless compared to IPAs & decent stout) but this Reminded me of some of the sh!te I used to drink in college. Won't ever be buying it again

Lucena

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Had this on an Aer Lingus flight last Monday

Thought it was absolutely horrible tbh. I simply don't drink lager much anymore (tasteless compared to IPAs & decent stout) but this Reminded me of some of the sh!te I used to drink in college. Won't ever be buying it again

Not all nostalgic, then?

bladebrew

I was on an Aer Lingus flight recently and saw Tom Creans with Brewed in Ireland underneath it, did anyone find out if it is brewed in Ireland?, there seemed to be a cover up or we were given a politicians answer!

Lucena

The stuff in pubs is brewed in Dingle. However the general consensus from different info given here is that the cans/bottles are brewed in Europe (probably the UK). This is apparently until the brewer builds up capacity to be able to brew everything in Dingle, but he is rather evasive about the foreignness of the non-pub beer.