When is it acceptable/unacceptable to hire a woman/man for their looks?

AskMyChocolate

If anyone has seen the show "Stacked" with Pamela Anderson, they will know that the premise of the show, and the script, couldn't work unless she is an absolute little belter. Similarly, with Brad Pitt in Thelma and Louise.

I worked in my brother's bar in London and we needed a new barperson. He interviewed a few people with good experience and good references, who, in a meritocracy, should have got the job.

Instead, he gave the job to an absolute little peeler with no experience. Why? Because, lonely gents are more likely to stay longer if there is some eye-candy serving them.

Now don't get me wrong, a good-looking girl with a personality is the grail, (over a much better-looking girl who is stand-offish) , but, when is it acceptable to hire someone for their looks/youth?

Choco

44leto

I think it is never acceptable, but I know it goes on.

I was buying a car in the last month and one observation I made, in all the show rooms the receptionists seem to be very attractive women.

LH Pathe

But sure we'll always fall for agreeable looks. first, if not foremost.

Man that jim lahey..

44leto

Also when I enquire about gym membership, its always misses tight gym slip that comes out to give the pitch.

Shanotheslayer

Tbh, I think looks are important to a degree depending on the shop, for example:

Car Sales man/woman competing against other Car Sales man/woman

Both have exact same experience.
Same qualifications
Same schools
Same type of personality

So it's a tough choice.

Then you notice their facial features. Who will attract more customers? Who will want to go and talk to 'that Car Sales man/woman'

Looks do come into it.

AstridBean

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

If anyone has seen the show "Stacked" with Pamela Anderson

Ah yes, a quality show. :pac:

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

I worked in my brother's bar in London and we needed a new barperson. He interviewed a few people with good experience and good references, who, in a meritocracy, should have got the job.

Instead, he gave the job to an absolute little peeler with no experience. Why? Because, lonely gents are more likely to stay longer if there is some eye-candy serving them.

Now don't get me wrong, a good-looking girl with a personality is the grail, (over a much better-looking girl who is stand-offish) , but, when is it acceptable to hire someone for their looks/youth?

Choco

In the above example, hiring someone good-looking is totally fine (as long as they're not COMPLETELY incompetent) because, like you say, it can boost business. Nice to have eye candy while having a few sups as the pub is an escapist sort of place.

massdebater

It's been going on in the modelling industry for years. Who cares anyway? Unless you're a munter















Like me

Joey the lips

i suppose i would not hire jordan for her personality or singing voice...

Richard Hillman

Good looking staff improve moral around the workplace and entices competitiveness between staff to be the best at what they do.

FatherLen

the girls driving the red bull minis all have to be damp!

Aoifey!

It shouldn't be done, and in a perfect world it wouldn't.

But in reality, sex sells, so good looks will get you far.

flutterflye

Joey the lips wrote: »

i suppose i would not hire jordan for her personality or singing voice...

Would you really hire her for her looks though either??
She's gross imo.

Dudess

Depends on the job. For some jobs, image is important, it helps sell.

Kylo Ren

Strippers.

Stained Class

It's the way of the world.

Of course men will go to a pub where there's attractive barstaff, that are single & they think they'll get off with.

Good God, who want's to be served by some retard who can pull the best pint in the world?:rolleyes:

Class Law!

1 You're fortune is in your face.

2 Your attitude determines your altitude.

End of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chuck Stone

I've never had that type of problem but then again I work in bell-tower security.

kryogen

It is vitally important to me that the pub I choose to spend my hard earned cash in has something nice for me to look at while I do it

Preferably female


EDIT
And that bit of philosophical wisdom is my 8000 post, boo ya!

Fago!

A new Personel Manager just started in my work. It is because she's charming? No she's a cunt. Is it because of her valuable experience and work ethic? No everyone hates her because she's a cunt and is making things worse for us and will probably be fired soon because she's an unreasonable bitch. Is it because she has lovely blonde hair, luscious lips, a huge rack and a goddamn fine looking arse that giggles when she walks? Yes. She. Is. A. CRACKING chick. Tbh I can get over the fact she's a sap because she is gorgeous!

It happens OP.

Dublinstiofán

kryogen wrote: »

It is vitally important to me that the pub I choose to spend my hard earned cash in has something nice for me to look at while I do it

Preferably female


EDIT
And that bit of philosophical wisdom is my 8000 post, boo ya!

This is exactly why most pubs have gorgeous moran's working on the floor serving drinks (aka chatting to each other, doing no work
and giving anyone a dirty look who doesn't grace their palm with a euro or two)

I'd prefer to have an average or moderately good looking bird who can remember more than three drinks at a time and who brings
me my pint with a bit of head one it, not flat!

mickrock

In supermarkets I prefer the most attractive checkout girls handling my goods.

Fago!

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

I'd prefer to have an average or moderately good looking bird who can remember more than three drinks at a time and who brings
me my pint with a bit of head one it, not flat!

Someone's picky!

massdebater

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

This is exactly why most pubs have gorgeous moran's working on the floor serving drinks (aka chatting to each other, doing no work
and giving anyone a dirty look who doesn't grace their palm with a euro or two)

I'd prefer to have an average or moderately good looking bird who can
remember more than three drinks at a time and who brings
me my pint with a bit of
give me head one it, not flat!

FYP

Arianna_26

I don't think it's ever acceptable but I think employers do it because they think (and perhaps they are have a point) that if they have attractive and friendly staff customers will be more likely to frequent the place.

Peeler? - never heard that one before.

Kim_Il_Jong

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

people with good experience and good references, who, in a meritocracy, should have got the job.

It still is a meritocracy. People just act like looks aren't a criteria on par with education/experience, being born beautiful (not that id know directly) is equivalent to getting a free masters degree in many situations.

anyway ..... that airline, the middle eastern one, can't think of the name... they seem pretty up front about using women with natural talent as hostesses as they (airline) consider themselves as a distinguished quality airline.
Shareholders would probably be happy with this policy...so i'd guess they'd consider it one of the times when firmness of ass and symmetry of face is a requirement.

oppenheimer1

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

If anyone has seen the show "Stacked" with Pamela Anderson, they will know that the premise of the show, and the script, couldn't work unless she is an absolute little belter. Similarly, with Brad Pitt in Thelma and Louise.

I worked in my brother's bar in London and we needed a new barperson. He interviewed a few people with good experience and good references, who, in a meritocracy, should have got the job.

Instead, he gave the job to an absolute little peeler with no experience. Why? Because, lonely gents are more likely to stay longer if there is some eye-candy serving them.


Choco

You, sir, are a wordsmith.

Kim_Il_Jong

mickrock wrote: »

In supermarkets I prefer the most attractive checkout girls handling my goods.

I bet if they did a study on which checkout girls are most busy with male customers they could establish some kind of average pervert percentage, number thing.

mackg

mickrock wrote: »

In supermarkets I prefer the most attractive checkout girls handling my goods.

I prefer whoever doesn't try and strike up a conversation with everyone and just serves them as fast as they can so I can get the fcuk out of the supermarket.

krudler

to be fair Brown Thomas make a point of hiring Oompa Loompas to work on the makeup counters, so its nice a big company has equality like that.

AskMyChocolate

LH Pathe wrote: »

But sure we'll always fall for agreeable looks. first, if not foremost.

Man that jim lahey..

I thanked your post because you mentioned Jim Lahey, and for no other reason. Jaysus, I hope I have enough credit left on my download to watch an episode. Randy, those cheeseburgers are gonna kill you. *wobbles*:)

AskMyChocolate

44leto wrote: »

Also when I enquire about gym membership, its always misses tight gym slip that comes out to give the pitch.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're a bloke in his thirties who feels he's let himself go a little bit, rather than a woman in her thirties who's just had a kid.

*Enter Juan with a full head of hair and a torso that is quite frankly ridiculous to the point of being intimidating*:pac:

\God I should have been a bird.

mackg

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're a bloke in his thirties who feels he's let himself go a little bit, rather than a woman in her thirties who's just had a kid.

*Enter Juan with a full head of hair and a torso that is quite frankly ridiculous to the point of being intimidating*:pac:

\God I should have been a bird.

It's not too late!

http://www.soyouwanna.com/soyouwanna-sex-change-1344.html

AskMyChocolate

flutterflye wrote: »

Would you really hire her for her looks though either??
She's gross imo.

She is now. In her younger days she was an extremely good-looking girl IMO. Natural tits and beautiful eyes. Just my opinion though.

sandmanporto

We all love a hot colleague but to be honest it's too distracting.

AskMyChocolate

Stained Class wrote: »

It's the way of the world.

Of course men will go to a pub where there's attractive barstaff, that are single & they think they'll get off with.

Good God, who want's to be served by some retard who can pull the best pint in the world?:rolleyes:

Class Law!

1 You're fortune is in your face.

2 Your attitude determines your altitude.

End of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No No No! It's because they can chat up a ludicrously attractive member of the opposite sex and not feel in any way rejected. They can laugh about it for the very reason that it's not serious.

And Btw, being able to pull a decent pint does not automatically make one a retard.

You just got lucky.:mad:

BeerWolf

... Modeling ?

Johnny Foreigner

Kim_Il_Jong wrote: »

It still is a meritocracy. People just act like looks aren't a criteria on par with education/experience, being born beautiful (not that id know directly) is equivalent to getting a free masters degree in many situations.

anyway ..... that airline, the middle eastern one, can't think of the name... they seem pretty up front about using women with natural talent as hostesses as they (airline) consider themselves as a distinguished quality airline.
Shareholders would probably be happy with this policy...so i'd guess they'd consider it one of the times when firmness of ass and symmetry of face is a requirement.

Emirates.

Johnny Foreigner

mickrock wrote: »

In supermarkets I prefer the most attractive checkout girls handling my goods.

+1

Johnny Foreigner

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

If anyone has seen the show "Stacked" with Pamela Anderson, they will know that the premise of the show, and the script, couldn't work unless she is an absolute little belter. Similarly, with Brad Pitt in Thelma and Louise.

I worked in my brother's bar in London and we needed a new barperson. He interviewed a few people with good experience and good references, who, in a meritocracy, should have got the job.

Instead, he gave the job to an absolute little peeler with no experience. Why? Because, lonely gents are more likely to stay longer if there is some eye-candy serving them.

Now don't get me wrong, a good-looking girl with a personality is the grail, (over a much better-looking girl who is stand-offish) , but, when is it acceptable to hire someone for their looks/youth?

Choco

That's the first time I have heard a good looking girl called a Peeler.
I thought a Peeler was a Policeman (or Policewoman).

mackg

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

That's the first time I have heard a good looking girl called a Peeler.
I thought a Peeler was a Policeman (or Policewoman).

which poses an interesting question, would males be less likely to resist arrest if the arresting officer was a hot female?

AskMyChocolate

mickrock wrote: »

In supermarkets I prefer the most attractive checkout girls handling my goods.

Have you ever been in the barber's and there are two absolute little peelers, one middle-aged woman (who was obviously a little peeler in her youth, and the only reason you keep going back there, because by the laws of averages,she'll have to do your hair once), and a fat lad.

Who do you get when it's your turn to get your hair cropped?

Take a wild fcuking guess.

There is no God.:mad:

AskMyChocolate

Kim_Il_Jong wrote: »

It still is a meritocracy. People just act like looks aren't a criteria on par with education/experience, being born beautiful (not that id know directly) is equivalent to getting a free masters degree in many situations.

anyway ..... that airline, the middle eastern one, can't think of the name... they seem pretty up front about using women with natural talent as hostesses as they (airline) consider themselves as a distinguished quality airline.
Shareholders would probably be happy with this policy...so i'd guess they'd consider it one of the times when firmness of ass and symmetry of face is a requirement.

Would that not be a crapitalocracy/mediaocracy? Not saying it's wrong, it's just something that I find abhorrent.

Nothing to do with the fact that I'm ugly btw. I love firmness of ass.

Cool username btw chief, I see the good in you father.:pac:

blatantrereg

For models, actresses, singers, dancers, sex industry workers etc - it goes with the territory.

For any other roles it's as disgraceful as it is commonplace - with women anyway. There are two sides to it also. Plenty of women fawn and flirt to look for preferential treatment. Plenty of men let a tiny bit of power go to their heads (both of them).

Looks are a factor but there's more to it. Plenty of women are stunning but are respectable enough that they'd never start this kind of dynamic; wouldn't tolerate it if a man tried to start it with them. On the other hand, some women are mediocre-looking or below average but are shameless and fawning enough to manage preferential treatment from susceptible males.

AskMyChocolate

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

You, sir, are a wordsmith.

I'm renowned for my wordsmithery. You'd want to see me whittle.:pac:

AskMyChocolate

krudler wrote: »

to be fair Brown Thomas make a point of hiring Oompa Loompas to work on the makeup counters, so its nice a big company has equality like that.

In fairness, I went into BT a couple of years ago, looking for a bottle of perfume for my mam; I asked the "young pretty things" had they any Arpege? They looked at me like I had two heads. The "Oompa Loompa" as you call it, came over, and explained to me that they didn't stock it anymore.

She then asked me, who it was for? Before I had a chance to answer, she asked," Is it for your mother/grandmother/auntie, a classy elderly lady?"

She knew her trade backwards.

She knew it wasn't for my girlfriend, and that I wasn't going to be buying anything if they didn't have it, but she still directed me to the couple of shops who she thought might still stock it. A real classy lady, "OOmpa Loompa" or not.

Choco

astonaidan

My take on this is youll always find it easier to get work if your more attractive, Yesterday my sister and I went to this charity interview and we had to this sales pitch at the end I personally made a mess of my sale but didnt really give a **** cause I have a job i was there for keeping her company, She rocked hers, The thing is Im considered goodlooking and shes alot better looks wise than me, So while I was waiting to see who got it I was trying to guess whod get a call back there was 10 people in our group and 5 were getting called back so i figured that theyd pick the best ones, i had picked 3 lads and 2 girls one being my sister, Their was 2 girls who were worse than me but were realitvly good looking but i ruled them out cause they werent good at sales. To shorten the story, I got called back and so did the 4 girls even though the 3 lads were far better than me or the 2 girls

AskMyChocolate

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

That's the first time I have heard a good looking girl called a Peeler.
I thought a Peeler was a Policeman (or Policewoman).

"Cabbie. 221b Baker Street! Mr. Sherlock Holmes!"

"And hurry, it's an emergency"

"Right Guv"

\wraps muffler round his neck and whips up the horses

Captain McDuck

Happens all the time in the service industry and so it should... who wants to be served by a fat minger?? Male or female??

Proper order.

desertcircus

Singapore Airlines also just happen to have preposterously attractive stewardesses. On an economic level, bias in favour of pretty people is understandable, but that doesn't make it okay. Hiring only white people because your clientele is a bit racist might make financial sense, but it's still morally wrong, so what makes looks different?

kryogen

mackg wrote: »

which poses an interesting question, would males be less likely to resist arrest if the arresting officer was a hot female?

Yes, we have a female Garda here in Waterford who I would happily break the law to get her handcuffs on me, and if there was a guaranteed way to be sure she was the arresting officer and was going to personally handcuff me and push herself up against me. I would

I may need help however

abouttobebanned

Don't think sky sports news would enjoy the same number of viewers if mike and Molly were hosting it.

watna

I got called for an interview for a job as a stripper once. I applied for a job as a PA to the chief executive of a company and got called for an interview. It turned out it was a company that owned brothels and strip clubs so I rang them back and said I was no longer available for work.

The next day I got a call from a woman saying she had my CV and would I come in for an interview, when I asked again where she was calling from it turns out it was a strip club where the women dressed as mermaids and swim around in tanks. They obviously just passed any female CVs from the parent copmany on to them. I was just really surprised that people put CVs in for a job as a stripper and I was getting a call for an interview with no idea what I looked like! I would have thought that was one job where it really does matter what people look like. I guess they wanted to know my qualifications first :pac: