The Last of Us

Zero-Cool

Naughty Dog have come out and said the MP side has taken nothing from the SP. Guess a lot of people got worried about it with the pre order announcement.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/383073/last-of-us-multiplayer-has-never-taken-away-resources-from-the-sp-game/

"We don't approach MP in any of our games as tacked on," he said. "And we also always have separate teams working on the different components so that we can maintain full focus on making SP and MP up to our standards.
"And we have faith that our MP will stand on it's own. If we felt like it would be tacked on, we wouldn't have added it. We want all our game experiences to be of the highest quality and that's what we work extremely hard to deliver."
According to Meyer, multiplayer has been in development for a "quite some time", and the single-player component "hasn't been skimped out on in any way".
"MP has never taken away resources from the SP game in any of our games, always separate teams, separate resources," he said.
"The folks working on the single player campaign always have the resources and support to complete that portion of the game to the vision they planned for."

Otacon

sheehy83 wrote: »

Naughty Dog have come out and said the MP side has taken nothing from the SP. Guess a lot of people got worried about it with the pre order announcement.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/383073/last-of-us-multiplayer-has-never-taken-away-resources-from-the-sp-game/

Based on how MP was implemented in Uncharted 2 and 3, I'm not worried about an impact on the SP campaign. I just can't see how it will work in The Last of Us.

At least in Uncharted, there were plenty of guns and a run-and-gun game-play style. I can't see how that could be implemented with the survivalist type of game-play that has been displayed so far.

MitchKoobski

Multiplayer never did Uncharted 2 or 3 any harm. If anything it added to the lifespan of the game and value for money.

Zero-Cool

It would be very cool to have 3 teams - Mutant Yokes, Thugs, Joel & Ellie. As the goodies, you have to get to a certain safe zone. As the baddies, you have to stop them and as the mutants you just goe ape sh1t on everyone. Would be complex to mix stealth with action but if they could blend left 4 dead with assassins creed mulitplayer, that would be class.

They can't just make an Uncharted MP type anyway, it would be way too generic for this game.

cloud493

I have faith in naughty dog it'll be good multiplayer

Big Knox

Yeah I don't think it will be Uncharted style straight up Deathmatch. I think it will have some twist to it and I look forward to it. Big fan of ND and have alot of faith in this!!

cloud493

So, an early access to the demo for the last of us will be given to those who buy god of war ascension.
And, the special edition for Europe has been annnounced, which is

Hogzy

So glad I bought a PS3 and not an xBox. Naughty Dog I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!

mystic86

100 days to go!!

Sephiroth_dude

Any of ye getting the collectors edition?

cloud493

Yeah definitely. That looks amazing

mystic86

cloud493 wrote: »

Yeah definitely. That looks amazing

an extra 35 euro for a canvas wrap, mini artbook, mini comic, poster, controller skin, lbp costume, dynamic theme, digital version of the soundtrack, 2 avatars, and some online multiplayer dlc....

good few items but I don't think I can justify it, nothing that I really really want.

mystic86

get Ellie edition here for 66.50 euro including delivery, use code SVOOJAN13 when ordering.

http://www.game.co.uk/en/the-last-of-us-game-exclusive-ellie-edition-206761?pageSize=20&searchTerm=the%20last%20of%20us


Considering getting this but I really don't want to have to wait, I want it day 1, hour 1!

Sephiroth_dude

Its 84 euro on gamestop...........whatttttttttttttttt!

cloud493

Gamestop being twats shock horror :rolleyes:
Think I might put up a pre order on it next time I'm up north.

Mc Love

Gamespot re/preview: http://www.gamespot.com/the-last-of-us/previews/the-fungus-among-us-facing-the-infected-of-the-last-of-us-6403325/

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/04/the-last-of-us-the-sights-and-sounds

Zero-Cool

Mc Love wrote: »

Gamespot re/preview: http://www.gamespot.com/the-last-of-us/previews/the-fungus-among-us-facing-the-infected-of-the-last-of-us-6403325/

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/04/the-last-of-us-the-sights-and-sounds

Sounds brilliant!! Sounds like I Am Alive on a bigger budget. This is gonna be class. Crafting system sounds good as well. Roll on May.

Mc Love

While watching those videos of the gameplay - started feeling nervous, i'm going to be a wreck playing them!

Zero-Cool

New gamplay vid showing combat against the infected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6jIK_cHF5c

mystic86

I must have read through two dozen preview articles that came out for this game today and these ones were my favourite:


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-04-the-last-of-us-preview

http://www.psu.com/a018183/Hands-on-with-The-Last-of-Us--the-past-present-and-future-of-survival-horror?page=1

http://www.1up.com/previews/haute-tension-showcases-sound-fury

http://www.destructoid.com/hands-on-the-last-of-us-scared-me-sh-tless-243926.phtml

jones

This game looks awesome!! i cant wait to see what Naughty dog do with the PS4

Otacon

The Last of Us delayed to June 14 worldwide

The Last of Us is now scheduled to drop on June 14 around the world, delayed from its initial launch date of May 7. Developer Naughty Dog says it needs a few more weeks to polish the game, in a statement on the PlayStation Blog:

"As we entered the final phase of development for The Last of Us, we came to realise just how massive Joel and Ellie's journey is. But instead of cutting corners or compromising our vision, we came to the tough decision that the game deserved a few extra weeks to ensure every detail of The Last of Us was up to Naughty Dog's internal high standards.

tok9

As I said in the GTA thread before regarding a delay, this is welcome news. Polish it up instead of releasing a buggy, unfinished game.

CastorTroy

They're delaying the release so they can release Wii U and 360 ports at the same time.

Zero-Cool

New Dev series released. 1st episode is about the infected. That clicking noise is gonna be like the radio in silent hill one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ICRQYIoORg

sink

Looks awesome. Seriously freaky looking and sounding.

aperture_nuig

The echo location idea is brilliant.

mystic86

mystic86 wrote: »

100 days to go!!

OK, take 2 - 100 days to go!!!!

Kirby

I've been anticipating and looking forward to this game for over a year and it's still four months out. Thats rare these days.

I hope it meets it's expectations.

grizzly

Interesting write up in the Guardian;

The Last of Us game preview: 'David Attenborough meets the Coen brothers'
In the first of two features on Naughty Dog's tale of post- civilisation survival, its makers reveal their aims and influences

If you pass the key inspirations for The Last of Us through a reductive Hollywood pitch filter the delightfully unlikely formulation would be something along the lines of "David Attenborough meets the Coen brothers – at the end of the world".

It sounds like the finest Roger Corman movie the world will never see, but these really are the ingredients for Naughty Dog's new tale of post-civilisation survival. The Last of Us shows a world torn apart by pandemic, and so far the headlines have been stolen by the visually arresting infection itself, a zombifying plague inspired by the fascinating (and alarmingly non-fictional) cordyceps fungus as featured in an episode of the BBC's Planet Earth. The fungus alters the behaviour of insects and ultimately transforms their bodies into statuesque spore clusters; the game's jumping-off point is "what if the fungus spread to humans?" – a question it then answers in the shape of frenzied half-men and the collapse of world government.

So that's the end of the world and David Attenborough covered (hear his voice describing with soothing detachment the mechanism of our destruction here). But where do the Coen brothers enter the picture? At the head of The Last of Us are two men, game director Bruce Straley and creative director Neil Druckmann. The two worked together on Naughty Dog's blockbusting, Indiana Jones-riffing triumph Uncharted 2, and found they had a shared taste in cinema and literature. This included the Coen brothers, whose 2009 film, the stripped southern noir No Country For Old Men, Straley remembers the pair watching together. "We walked out of the theatre kind of eyes wide open and mouth agape," he says, describing how deeply the film's ability to sustain tension impressed them. "What did we just see? What was that?" And then, most importantly, "What if you could make a game like that?"


Judging by the short section of the game that Naughty Dog has revealed so far, it seems that they can. The game's hero is Joel, a lean, stalking southerner not unlike No Country's Josh Brolin. Twenty years after the outbreak Joel is a smuggler, sharing again with Brolin's character a decency that doesn't necessarily equate to boy scout honesty. He runs supplies past check points, in and out of the quarantine zones that are the final holdouts against a world filled with desperate scavengers and the infected. The job that sets the game's story in motion, and forms the relationship that will define that story, is to smuggle not a thing but a person – a 14-year-old girl called Ellie.

In the section I play Ellie and Joel move through a toppled office building on the outskirts of Boston. The environment screams unease – not just the torn concrete city, road twisted and listing, but the resounding lack of music and the enveloping sound of rainfall on the broken streets. If Straley and Druckmann want pervasive tension, they have it – each step in this environment feels like a trespass, each slowly decaying room is entered reluctantly, and each noise that echoes through the ruined building – a shunted cabinet, a tossed bottle – feels like an alarm piercing a reverent hush.

In a way, that's exactly what each one is. The role of sound in The Last of Us is unusually prominent. Straley describes how environmental noise was purposefully "stripped back" to bare essentials in line with the rest of the game's mechanics, so that each noise or careful deployment of the mournful score by seasoned soundtrack melancholic Gustavo Santaolalla has the maximum impact (the Argentine guitarist has provided music for films as uplifting as 21 Grams and Babel – he fits right in). But sound is also woven into the design of the infected themselves. There are three stages to the disease, leading to three distinct classes of enemy as the fungus germinates in the brain, grows through the eyes, and eventually consumes its victim. The third and final class is called the Clicker – head erupted in aggressive fungal growth, these blind, twitching drones get their name from their use of echolocation to hunt you through the darkness. It's not just that the game's atmospherics make excessive noise feel dangerous – the AI is designed so that it really is.


Of course engaging the infected is inevitable, but there's a great deal of flexibility in how you might do it. Joel uses items scavenged on his journey – blades, rags, bottles – to craft shivs, molotov cocktails, bandages and other items that can be used to shape combat. Materials are scarce so choices are necessary, meaning you're constantly taking stock of your supplies and playing out ever-shifting plans of attack for unseen, unknown enemies: "Take two out quietly with the shiv, burn the third, and save the precious shotgun shell for an emergency …"

It's a practical sensibility that has a lot in common with the grounded, improvised gunfights of No Country for Old Men, cat-and-mouse engagements of resourcefulness and reaction punctuated by moments of easy lethality. In fact what The Last of Us takes above all from the Coens is a disposition towards violence, which it treats as unglamorously brutal and sudden, a world away from the incidental genocide of Uncharted, with a clumsiness and spontaneity that gives every movement horrendous weight. When the infected descend upon Joel it's just a second before his throat is torn out and the screen abruptly fades to black. Each of Joel's own kills – a brick swung into a temple, a shiv jammed into a gurgling neck, a thunderous gunshot in the dark – feels loud and sickeningly final.

Straley explains that "simple designer tricks" are partly responsible for creating this effect. "Like – how long does it take to enter and exit my packpack? How quickly can I craft? How quickly can I fire a gun? What is the recoil rate on a revolver versus a 9mm?" But he also goes back to the game's audio. "The sound of the metal when you reload, the sound of a bullet locking in … I'm not even a gun guy, but when it reverberates inside a basement with your flashlight on when there's infected after you, and you hear that click, and you get a shot off – there's a clarity and focus to what's happening at that moment."


The journey through the building ends with a final fight against a group of the infected in what looks like a deserted underground station, the foundations having collapses into each other years before. The room is square with plenty of cover in the form of benches and low walls. I skulk opportunistically through the shadows, alternating between extreme stealth – Joel has a "listen mode" which highlights nearby enemy movement through walls – and desperate urgency once I see an infected singled out from the crowd. A loose toss of a molotov cocktail brings more attention than I'm ready for and I find I can run, hide, loop back and try again. The combat is designed to move from creeping to shooting to escaping smoothly, and that's how it feels, until I break a length of wood with a nail through it over a fungal head and move out into the open air.

And – breathe. The Last of Us, it's safe to say, does a fine line in tension. But it also has much larger ambitions. The infected might be physically striking and darkly intriguing, but they are a means to an end. Naughty Dog, as Straley and Druckmann stress more than once, is a studio interested in storytelling and characters, and finding ways to tell the story through gameplay, rather than alongside it in cutscenes. As the screenwriter's mantra goes, 'story is conflict' and conflict is what the infected provide. Straley calls cordyceps "a plausible scientific explanation that could create a manifestation of horror that applies pressure on the characters, that gets them to make interesting decisions". Moment to moment The Last of Us is clearly effective, but a true test of its success will be whether the relationship between Joel and Ellie works over the course of the game – whether it can make the player feel the pressures of this world, an emotional closeness to a virtual companion and above all else, as Straley says, "like we felt when we walked out of No Country For Old Men."

Read part two of this feature on The Last of Us on Friday, when we'll be taking a closer look at the game's storytelling, from the evolution of the script to the design philosophies behind its integration of story and gameplay

cloud493

The demo of us comes with god of war ascension, can't wait to get stuck in.

WolfForager

cloud493 wrote: »

The demo of us comes with god of war ascension, can't wait to get stuck in.

Demo doesn't go live for a few months.

Otacon

Yeah, if you select the demo from Ascension's menu, you get a holding screen with a countdown clock.

tok9

WolfForager wrote: »

Demo doesn't go live for a few months.

A few months! Jesus I'd be annoyed enough if I was going out to buy GOW for it and see a countdown.

cloud493

77 days :eek: thats like, two weeks before the game bloody comes out, thats mad.

WolfForager

cloud493 wrote: »

77 days :eek: thats like, two weeks before the game bloody comes out, thats mad.

Indeed. But Naughty Dog are being secretive about TLoU, which I think is the way to go after the disaster that was the six month long Uncharted 3 spoiler fest.

cloud493

I probably won't even keep this game for 77 days That is crazy, I am well gutted.

tok9

While it's definitely annoying if you were looking forward to it. A demo's job is to sell the product.

From the sounds of it, you're already sold!

cloud493

I'm so sold, I'm gonna fork out for one of them cool special editions :cool:

mystic86

90 days to go!

mystic86

50 days to go!!!

yes, I know, I'm sad

Zero-Cool

Really weird, the original thread in the post above shows an invalid link. Can a Mod look at that and merge this if it is still there?

Anyway, Gamesnash.ie have this up for preorder

http://gamesnash.ie/ps3-all-new-games-c-58_28/the-last-of-us-ps3-pre-order-with-lowest-price-guarantee-p-2759.html?zenid=katpj54ub5usqne2meiajb98o0

The dev series vids are class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ICRQYIoORg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJ2C6wAVpg

Deano7788

Original thread is here.

Thanks for the heads up about the pre-order

Zero-Cool

Weird Boards Searc or google couldn't find this thread. thanks Deano for the link!

Gamesnash.ie have this up for preorder

http://gamesnash.ie/ps3-all-new-game...qne2meiajb98o0

cloud493

I'm going to go for one of them fancy copies of the game. So excited

mystic86

Ordering from Gamesnash with express delivery to guarantee delivery on launch day works out at 54 euro... which compared to from gamestop with express delivery is slightly cheaper (~1.50), so I would order from Gamesnash... except gamestop online with express delivery sometimes deliver the game the day before release day!! Happened me with Uncharted 3! So for that reason I'd have to go with Gamestop!

Zero-Cool

On Gamesnash it's 49.99 euro including regular post. I get all my games using regular post and most arrived on release day. 1 was delayed by a day but it was due to a shipping company delay. I got about 3 games the day before release day.

I remember when the game was announced it was getting huge buzz but it seems to have fizzled out a lot. Devs announced the campaign will be between 12 - 16 hours long and all future DLC will be for multiplayer only.

cloud493

I think delaying it was the wrong move. I know they said about polishing it blah blah but this is the third delay?

mystic86

sheehy83 wrote: »

On Gamesnash it's 49.99 euro including regular post. I get all my games using regular post and most arrived on release day. 1 was delayed by a day but it was due to a shipping company delay. I got about 3 games the day before release day.

Interesting... with normal post you got 3 the day before?!

sheehy83 wrote: »

I remember when the game was announced it was getting huge buzz but it seems to have fizzled out a lot.

Really? I don't know about that... I'd have to disagree

sheehy83 wrote: »

all future DLC will be for multiplayer only.

Interesting, source?

mystic86

cloud493 wrote: »

I think delaying it was the wrong move. I know they said about polishing it blah blah but this is the third delay?

Blah blah blah? Ya, who cares about releasing a game thats incomplete and full of bugs right? :rolleyes:

also, 3rd delay?