Raw Gym or Crossfit Ireland or ???

ManannanMacLir

Hi everyone. I want to join a gym having spent the last while working out at home. I started out doing standard weights stuff but started getting a taste for kettlebells, skipping, deadlifts etc. along the line of the more sensible Crossfit approach. My question is should I then just go for a Crossfit affiliate and really get into it or join somewhere like Raw and still follow the Crossfit approach. Joining Crossfit Ireland for 3 sessions/week at a student rate would put me at ~€125/month whereas similar in Raw would be ~€50/month. If I had space in the house for a power rack I would probably just invest in one with an Olympic set and a kettlebell or two but alas I don't. Any recommendations/personal accounts would be really appreciated! Thanks

Hanley

You can do CF in raw, hell you can even follow an affiliates website and have them program for you for free... BUT do you value being coached more than the differential in price? And can you afford it?

ManannanMacLir

Yeah I guess that's the big question Hanley. The coaching does appeal to me. In terms of whether or not I can afford it, well that's a tricky one. Yes I can afford it but I also wouldn't mind having that extra money (a universal dilemma I think!).

Hanley

ManannanMacLir wrote: »

Yeah I guess that's the big question Hanley. The coaching does appeal to me. In terms of whether or not I can afford it, well that's a tricky one. Yes I can afford it but I also wouldn't mind having that extra money (a universal dilemma I think!).

There's nothing to stop you doing it on your own for now like. A crossfit journal subscription costs $25 a year, and there's a great resource for free in the forum. If you dont see results with that, you may wanna reevaluate.

At the start, "anything" tends to work anyway really!!

ilovelamp2000

I'm thinking of joining RAW myself at the moment, how busy does it get in there ?

Nervous Wreck

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

I'm thinking of joining RAW myself at the moment, how busy does it get in there ?

Depends, like all gyms, what time of the day you go in.

redzerredzer

I tried to crossfit in a normal gym and it's a pain in the ass. As soon as you leave your station someone always grabs your kettlebell or pull up bar or whatever.
(Any wod with running can't be done. It's not realistic to leg it out into town and swipe yourself back in again).
Working out in a group will make you work harder and achieve more.
You get the coaching and it's a big advantage to be able to drop the bar at crossfit. You might even make a friend at an affiliate.
There are quite a few crossfit places now so you should pick the one closest and give it a trial. You will train more if it's not too far away.
I still think some affiliates are taking the p••• with the price and locking you in for a year. It kind of goes against the spirit of the CF family thing they claim to have but everyone's got to make a living I suppose.
I would say, if money is no object definately go with crossfit but it does cost alot.
Good luck with your choice

ManannanMacLir

Good to hear your take on it redzerredzer. What places are there? I know of CF Ireland, CF Dublin & South Dublin S&C. Are there more? Preferably southside.

Hanley

It's funny, I was talking to a dude in CFI tonight who CF'd in Raw for 9 months, joined CFI like 2-3 months ago and reckons he's made bigger gains in that time than the 9 previous.

I still think just being plain strong in the basic movements (squat/press/DL) has a massive carryover to being good at CF.

So if you commit to raw with the view of joining a CF gym down the road, I'd say commit to getting as strong as possible in the basics, and do metcons primarily in the 8-15 minute range 2-3x per week on low skill movements (air squats, push ups, pull ups, running, rowing, KB swings, burpees etc etv). You'll still get a good metabolic effect without potentially f*cking yourself up too badly

Zamboni

Hanley wrote: »

It's funny, I was talking to a dude in CFI tonight who CF'd in Raw for 9 months, joined CFI like 2-3 months ago and reckons he's made bigger gains in that time than the 9 previous.

When I was in CFI, I experienced the same but I found it was mostly down to training in a communal setting more than down to any coaching I received.
And there are far cheaper communal training settings available than CF.

GoneFR

Zamboni wrote: »

When I was in CFI, I experienced the same but I found it was mostly down to training in a communal setting more than down to any coaching I received.
And there are far cheaper communal training settings available than CF.

You'll never get strong with CF especially CFI.

FACT.

Hanley

GoneFR wrote: »

You'll never get strong with CF especially CFI.

FACT.

Hahahhahahahaah yeah. Cos they certainly never had one of Irelands top powerlifters in specifically coaching strength classes.

I think if i say "fact" now it makes my point more believable. So...

FACT.

token

ManannanMacLir wrote: »

My question is should I then just go for a Crossfit affiliate and really get into it or join somewhere like Raw and still follow the Crossfit approach. Joining Crossfit Ireland for 3 sessions/week at a student rate would put me at ~€125/month whereas similar in Raw would be ~€50/month. If I had space in

Hanley wrote: »

I still think just being plain strong in the basic movements (squat/press/DL) has a massive carryover to being good at CF.

Before dropping any money on a CF affiliate you would want to make damn sure they are doing the above. CFI didn't for the whole of 2011 which led to me leaving (other than a trial at the end of the year for a select few which doesn't count). The trial was coached by Hanley here so I would confirm with him whether this is being rolled out fully in 2012 and available to everyone before locking yourself into a long term contract there. The times I was progressing there was when there was a heavy lifting component at the start of a class, then a metcon (Winter 2010). I went backwards when that stopped and it became metcon followed by more metcons.

This is a good article from an affiliate in Cork of the programming you should expect to receive if you want to progress longer than the honeymoon period.

http://crossfitmallow.ie/index.php?option=com_jaggyblog&task=viewpost&id=384&Itemid=12

If you decide to keep CF training on your own read up on the Crossfit Football approach. A sensible get strong, get fit approach.

GoneFR

Hanley wrote: »

Hahahhahahahaah yeah. Cos they certainly never had one of Irelands top powerlifters in specifically coaching strength classes.

I think if i say "fact" now it makes my point more believable. So...

FACT.

Hanley I may not be a post like a virus replicates, unlike yourself, but lets admit it, no one likes a virus.

You prattle on about your expertise and constant self promotion and when someone comes in to correct you your MOD buddies step in and lock up a thread. Oh ye I read a lot of posts. I rarely contribute until I see injustice.

I have ACTUAL experience, nearly 2 years there and the numbers to show it DOES NOT work. It's a glorified overpriced fitness facility. That's all. Go there to lose a few pounds, don't go there expecting to get strong or competitive in anything other than exercising.

columok

Hanley wrote: »

Hahahhahahahaah yeah. Cos they certainly never had one of Irelands top powerlifters in specifically coaching strength classes.

I think if i say "fact" now it makes my point more believable. So...

FACT.

Presumably this was available to all members? Otherwise your point is moot and only applies to 4-6% of same. Open to correction.

Hanley

GoneFR wrote: »

Hanley I may not be a post like a virus replicates, unlike yourself, but lets admit it, no one likes a virus.

You prattle on about your expertise and constant self promotion and when someone comes in to correct you your MOD buddies step in and lock up a thread. Oh ye I read a lot of posts. I rarely contribute until I see injustice.

I have ACTUAL experience, nearly 2 years there and the numbers to show it DOES NOT work. It's a glorified overpriced fitness facility. That's all. Go there to lose a few pounds, don't go there expecting to get strong or competitive in anything other than exercising.

TL;DR

Most of the mods here don't eveb like me. But hey, I get it, you don't either

Regardless of whether you like it or not I'll keep doing what I'm doing becaue I've helped a hell of a lot of people thru here. And I'll say no more.

columok wrote: »

Presumably this was available to all members? Otherwise your point is moot and only applies to 4-6% of same. Open to correction.

The whole point of it was to target members who had a specific weakness on the strength side of things - ie it was their limiting factor. If you want full time strength coaching, you're better in a strength gym. That should be fairly obvious

I've had at least one person come back say they've done their first rx'd workout since they finished the strength training and were super stoked as a result. So it worked. Say what you want about the lads, but the training system is constantly evolving as the member numbers and sample size increases, and they do a pretty good job of looking for new things to add to the program.

Hanley

And guys, try going into somewhere like ECB and asking them to make you a powerlifter. You can't go to a specific place that promises something all around and then complain when you don't get to pick and choose specifics.

Now I'd argue that I think there's a gap to set up a facility that does the menu approach, but that's a whole other story.

d'Oracle

Barry.Oglesby

Hanley wrote: »

super stoked

I bought my son a Super Stoker for his last birthday.

Black Sheep

OP-

If you've got your heart set on doing CrossFit, I would make the observation that it need not be a binary choice between CrossFit Ireland (CFI) and RAW in town.

As you point out, you could do CF type training at a number of venues (not just RAW, for that matter). On the Southside there's SDSC (where the coach is also CrossFit certified, AFAIK), Ironside / ECB and probably other places that you could make do in. In the city centre aside from RAW you've also got Hercs, which might work with a little ingenuity.

If you feel like you want the communal CF experience I would also strongly suggest is that you look around and price other CF affiliates than CFI. There are quite a few in Dublin at this point, with a range of prices. Paying more does not necessarily equate to getting value, to receiving better coaching or following intelligent programming.

Actually somewhere like CrossFit North Dublin / Performance Therapy is, by CF standards, taking a pretty responsible approach to programming and their clients wellbeing. It would probably be my pick of all the affiliates in Dublin if I were still interested in CrossFit. Strangely they don't seem to need to charge a couple of thousand Euro per year in membership (only partially to do with their location, I think).

GoneFR

Hanley wrote: »

TL;DR

Most of the mods here don't eveb like me. But hey, I get it, you don't either

Regardless of whether you like it or not I'll keep doing what I'm doing becaue I've helped a hell of a lot of people thru here. And I'll say no more.

Not surprising.

I don't care what you do on here, I was just pointing out your obvious flaws.

But here, well done avoiding the important part of my point. (You'd fit right in with the rest of the scum in government.) The fact that CF does not make you strong and CFI certainly fails in that goal. On the basis of actual experience of myself, and I'd say upward of 10 ex members I know who moved to real training facilities where training is done by experienced individuals with actual achievements.

Zamboni

Hanley wrote: »

Now I'd argue that I think there's a gap to set up a facility that does the menu approach, but that's a whole other story.

Build it and they will come.

GoneFR

Did you ever train at CFI Henley?
Don't remember seeing you there ever.
How can you have an objective view?

token

Hanley wrote: »

And guys, try going into somewhere like ECB and asking them to make you a powerlifter. You can't go to a specific place that promises something all around and then complain when you don't get to pick and choose specifics.

That's not the point I was or the others I believe are trying to make. You can get plenty strong and get plenty good at metcons at the time. It doesn't have to be a choice. A class lasts an hour, average metcon is 10 minutes long. There is plenty of time to do everything including all the mobility stuff.

columok

token wrote: »

That's not the point I was or the others I believe are trying to make. You can get plenty strong and get plenty good at metcons at the time. It doesn't have to be a choice. A class lasts an hour, average metcon is 10 minutes long. There is plenty of time to do everything including all the mobility stuff.

Provided that stuff is "allowed"!

Hanley wrote:

The whole point of it was to target members who had a specific weakness on the strength side of things - ie it was their limiting factor. If you want full time strength coaching, you're better in a strength gym. That should be fairly obvious

I've had at least one person come back say they've done their first rx'd workout since they finished the strength training and were super stoked as a result. So it worked. Say what you want about the lads, but the training system is constantly evolving as the member numbers and sample size increases, and they do a pretty good job of looking for new things to add to the program.

Melissa Urban and co were kicked out of CF for saying that with nearly all Cf trainees STRENGTH is the limiting factor. I would posit that in 99% of people in Ireland that this is the same. I would also suggest that for most CF-affiliate trainees its not a specific weakness thats the problem its overall weakness.

I think the combined parties on this thread arguing against you have considerable greater subjective and objective experience of what training at a CF affiliate is like. Much like you have considerably greater experience at training as a powerlifter. This isn't really up for contention tbh. Our opinions are based on REAL experience rather than hearsay.

Edwardius

ManannanMacLir wrote: »

Hi everyone. I want to join a gym having spent the last while working out at home. I started out doing standard weights stuff but started getting a taste for kettlebells, skipping, deadlifts etc. along the line of the more sensible Crossfit approach. My question is should I then just go for a Crossfit affiliate and really get into it or join somewhere like Raw and still follow the Crossfit approach. Joining Crossfit Ireland for 3 sessions/week at a student rate would put me at ~€125/month whereas similar in Raw would be ~€50/month. If I had space in the house for a power rack I would probably just invest in one with an Olympic set and a kettlebell or two but alas I don't. Any recommendations/personal accounts would be really appreciated! Thanks

OP, most of the crossfit gyms have some sort of blog format where they list their programming and you can go back over a year or more and see if the progression in each case appeals to you.

Crossfit Ireland workouts
I haven't been keeping an eye on this, last time I did (maybe about 18 months or so ago) I think they did some strength lift+short metcon type stuff, you can look back over the last few months to confirm that this is still the case.

Crossfit dublin programming

I think this is OPT style training, which is well regarded

Performance therapy Ireland is on the northside, but they have a link to the different services they offer so you don't have to do just crossfit.

There's also crossfit trojan which I know nowt about and ronin crossfit in fairview

Hanley

GoneFR wrote: »

Not surprising.

I don't care what you do on here, I was just pointing out your obvious flaws.

But here, well done avoiding the important part of my point. (You'd fit right in with the rest of the scum in government.) The fact that CF does not make you strong and CFI certainly fails in that goal. On the basis of actual experience of myself, and I'd say upward of 10 ex members I know who moved to real training facilities where training is done by experienced individuals with actual achievements.

Kool-aid, hater-aid, everyone's got aids.

token wrote: »

That's not the point I was or the others I believe are trying to make. You can get plenty strong and get plenty good at metcons at the time. It doesn't have to be a choice. A class lasts an hour, average metcon is 10 minutes long. There is plenty of time to do everything including all the mobility stuff.

I'm not really sure i get ya tbh. Like for new guys, after a warm up they need to learn the skills that'll be involved in the metcon , it need to all be set up, put away etc etc. there's definitely time to get something in, and to drive some sort of strength gain. BUT I think if strength's your primary goal you need to train specifically for that.

Like how many training hours have you logged since you change from being a cf athlete to a real one??

columok

Dead Ed wrote: »

OP, most of the crossfit gyms have some sort of blog format where they list their programming and you can go back over a year or more and see if the progression in each case appeals to you.

Crossfit Ireland workouts
I haven't been keeping an eye on this, last time I did (maybe about 18 months or so ago) I think they did some strength lift+short metcon type stuff, you can look back over the last few months to confirm that this is still the case.

Crossfit dublin programming

I think this is OPT style training, which is well regarded

Performance therapy Ireland is on the northside, but they have a link to the different services they offer so you don't have to do just crossfit.

There's also crossfit trojan which I know nowt about and ronin crossfit in fairview

The big issue is also what kind of longevity a preset WOD system. Sensibly done this can take a novice up to a good level. But after a certain point you need specific programming for your weaknesses even if a communal WOD conditioning block is tacked on afterwards.

Red_Wake

ManannanMacLir wrote: »

Hi everyone. I want to join a gym having spent the last while working out at home. I started out doing standard weights stuff but started getting a taste for kettlebells, skipping, deadlifts etc. along the line of the more sensible Crossfit approach. My question is should I then just go for a Crossfit affiliate and really get into it or join somewhere like Raw and still follow the Crossfit approach. Joining Crossfit Ireland for 3 sessions/week at a student rate would put me at ~€125/month whereas similar in Raw would be ~€50/month. If I had space in the house for a power rack I would probably just invest in one with an Olympic set and a kettlebell or two but alas I don't. Any recommendations/personal accounts would be really appreciated! Thanks

Any gym that does not have these should not even be considered IMO.

I'm not a member of either of these places, but if I was you, I'd take a tour of their facilities, and join up based on what equipment they have.

Having said that, I consider it unlikely that either of them lack the required equipment, and as such you should consider the following;

(1) is the location handy for you (no sense in joining somewhere that you can't get to)
(2) are the crossfit classes suitable for you (on at suitable time/ have the right amount of people for you)
(3) expertise of staff (can they show you correct form, and help you when you wish to change your routine or clean up your diet)

Mind you, regardless of which gym you join, the biggest factor in whether you succeed or fail is still yourself/

g'em

See, it's threads like this that really make the Mods' life difficult here. So I'm going to be as straightforward as I can and if I go over the top then you can take it up with my superiors by all means.

Hanley, youre being an egotistical jerk. You really are though. You are given so much leniancy here it's not funny and yet you just can't help pushing us to our limits. Yes, you do have an incredibly good knowledge base, and experience, and there are not many like you who can provide such top-notch advice. But seriously, do you have to act like such a douche? You're a nice guy, now be the (metaphorically) bigger guy.

And GoneFR fair enough, you've had a sh*tty time in CFI, but no-one likes a bitcher in such a closed community - if you haven't had success then that's a shame, but at least give more of a background and a balanced reasoning as to why you didn't like it.

And drop the snide comments at Hanley. Yes, he's being an ass but you're the one doing the abusing and you'll shoulder the ban.

GoneFR

Good post columok. Experience is paramount.

Dead Ed I was up at Performance Therapy, as is a mate of my at present, and found the training and programming there to be more individual based.
Found Stephen to be excellent. Definitely an CF style gym I'd recommend if one was set on CF (for whatever deranged reason other than weightloss).

Hanley

columok wrote: »

Provided that stuff is "allowed"!


Melissa Urban and co were kicked out of CF for saying that with nearly all Cf trainees STRENGTH is the limiting factor. I would posit that in 99% of people in Ireland that this is the same. I would also suggest that for most CF-affiliate trainees its not a specific weakness thats the problem its overall weakness.

I think the combined parties on this thread arguing against you have considerable greater subjective and objective experience of what training at a CF affiliate is like. Much like you have considerably greater experience at training as a powerlifter. This isn't really up for contention tbh. Our opinions are based on REAL experience rather than hearsay.

Sorry, point out where I said anything about what WAS being done ther. Im talking about what IS being done. Big difference. I'm also a talkative bollox, so ive spoken to lots of CFI members and heard their stories

I dont have a side in this battle. CFI will survive and do well regardless of what anyone says on here good or bad. That's a "FACT".

It just annoys me when people take personal agendas and motives out like this and start to run down others. If it was ppl ragging on Wayne or Sami Id be the exact same.

I honestly don't give a **** what people think about me, Powerlifitng, Crossfit or any of that stuff. Hell if you read my posts earlier you'll see exactly how I think a beginner should be trained. And it's different to most CF affiliates programs

So it looks like I've NO ONE on my side, except maybe that guy calling me a virus?

token

Hanley wrote: »

I'm not really sure i get ya tbh. Like for new guys, after a warm up they need to learn the skills that'll be involved in the metcon , it need to all be set up, put away etc etc. there's definitely time to get something in, and to drive some sort of strength gain. BUT I think if strength's your primary goal you need to train specifically for that.

Like how many training hours have you logged since you change from being a cf athlete to a real one??

My point was what you said yourself..

Hanley wrote: »

I still think just being plain strong in the basic movements (squat/press/DL) has a massive carryover to being good at CF.

To be a good crossfitter you need to also be strong. You can get strong while crossfitting. I've done it myself training in CFI when they had the strength challenge Winter 2010. My squat numbers went up miles and my metcon times dropped significantly. Same with just about everyone that did it. If they kept a similar programming I would still be there now. There are other affiliates in Ireland also doing a similar programming right this minute so it's not like it hasn't been done before or can't be done now.

Do you not think yourself that all of CFI could benefit from the work you are doing there this Winter? Let the beginners work on the skill of the movements then metcon. Let the advanced guys hit 1-2 lifts then do the metcon.

GoneFR

g'em wrote: »

See, it's threads like this that really make the Mods' life difficult here. So I'm going to be as straightforward as I can and if I go over the top then you can take it up with my superiors by all means.

Hanley, youre being an egotistical jerk. You really are though. You are given so much leniancy here it's not funny and yet you just can't help pushing us to our limits. Yes, you do have an incredibly good knowledge base, and experience, and there are not many like you who can provide such top-notch advice. But seriously, do you have to act like such a douche? You're a nice guy, now be the (metaphorically) bigger guy.

And GoneFR fair enough, you've had a sh*tty time in CFI, but no-one likes a bitcher in such a closed community - if you haven't had success then that's a shame, but at least give more of a background and a balanced reasoning as to why you didn't like it.

And drop the snide comments at Hanley. Yes, he's being an ass but you're the one doing the abusing and you'll shoulder the ban.

Fair enough MOD. I wouldn't like to be seen as rocking the boat without reason.

And it's nothing to do with liking something. Why would you think I'd have to like a place to get results? I actually liked CF and CFI to begin with. So you'd be wrong assuming I'd a "sh*tty time in CFI".

Its all about results. I could hate my trainer but once the results are good who cares, I'd keep coming back. Results are delivered by hard work and by trainers with the right experience and the right programming.

I paid through the nose for said training and started off with some decent numbers. I'm naturally strong and devilishly handsome.

After 1.5 years these had barely improved. I left shortly after.
Since I've left, although injured, my numbers have improved.
Coincidence? I think not.

The training, ie months of mobility without any strength training, doing a lift once a week or less, are the reasons you don't get strong in CF.

And now for the positive points of CF :

1) you can lose weight

There's no strength in CF. You're average over broad domains.

Hanley

You're about to see something very rare here - me shutting up.

If anyone wants to actually discuss this, PM/FB/EMAIL/call/take me on a date.

Barry.Oglesby

Here's where I would train if I wanted sensible strength and prehabilitation programming, personal service and sensible pricing.

http://www.southdublinsc.ie/

Dave has been down the Crossfit route and has adopted a common sense approach to it's integration into programming. It's a "smaller" facility but with everything you need.

GoneFR

Hanley wrote: »

You're about to see something very rare here - me shutting up.

If anyone wants to actually discuss this, PM/FB/EMAIL/call/take me on a date.

Hanley, YOU, scurrying away when the going gets tough or when your poor uneducated points get pulled apart? Never!

I'm going to christen the new phrase for running away as "pulling a hanley"

If someone does a burner when the going get tough you can say that their actions were "hanleyesque"

g'em

GoneFR wrote: »

Hanley, YOU, scurrying away when the going gets tough or when your poor uneducated points get pulled apart? Never!

I'm going to christen the new phrase for running away as "pulling a hanley"

If someone does a burner when the going get tough you can say that their actions were "hanleyesque"

Banned.

Transform

Been reading about the history of bodybuilding and weight training in the book - muscle, smoke and mirrors book 1 and 2 (amazing!!) and see that for over 100yrs there has been the constant search for the ideal program with everyone suggesting they have the secret sauce to the ideal physique and optimal strength.

I think we will continue down this path and its up to the individual to decide/discover whats producing results for them.

I do my own crossfit progamming with a lean towards crossfit football, lots of o lifting, balanced strength work (mainly couplets and triplets) and plenty of the basic gymnastic movements. Stir in a bit of K star, some movement screening, being way more honest with your diet (no its not as good as you think it is!) and some monitoring for overtraining and you are good to go.

Doing that for about 5years consistently is all thats required - simples.
(note - thats the hard part as most people just become program hoppers)

columok

Transform wrote: »

Been reading about the history of bodybuilding and weight training in the book - muscle, smoke and mirrors book 1 and 2 (amazing!!) and see that for over 100yrs there has been the constant search for the ideal program with everyone suggesting they have the secret sauce to the ideal physique and optimal strength.

I think we will continue down this path and its up to the individual to decide/discover whats producing results for them.

Was watching Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story recently. I never realised that Lee was an avid bodybuilder and used it as a means of improving his physical performance. Funny how bb can now we more associated with grotesquery than its many positives! Particularly those very athletic 50s and 60s bb-ers!

Dan John and Art Devaney are very outspoken about the need for hypertrophy -particularly with older people. I suspect a good CF programme should focus on bulking post lean-out, particularly with older clients. you don;t see it too much though.

Hanley wrote:

Really cheap blow

That was pretty low. Particularly given the clear opinion of his surgeon, a sports specialist, regarding causation.

Hanley

Honest most sincere apologies there. It was meant to be a reported post. On my phone. I'll pm him later to apologise myself.

Zamboni

Op if you want to try out all options there is another South Side facility recently opened on the Airton Road that has a Crossfit Certified coach, I believe it is called the Train Station.

Hanley

For the first time in me life I truly genuinely feel like a c*nt. even as reported post I went too far. I've apologized in private and I'm doing it again in public. Once again - truly deeply sorry.

g'em

Hanley also banned for a week.

daveyc21

This thread got sidetracked apologies op! I would suggest a try before you buy. Any place worth its salt in this climate will offer you a trial session so you can see if what they are offering is a good fit. Try everywhere and make a decision. Its a significant amount of money and time you are committing so use your buyer power as with everything else.

d'Oracle

redzerredzer wrote: »

What am I missing here or has it been deleted.
Apologies and Bans.
And I honestly dont see why.

Stuff has been deleted.
Not much, but it was unpleasant and is probably best left that way.

ManannanMacLir

Wow, talk about opening a can of worms. Thanks to everyone (I think?) for their input. Some really sound advise and I have learned of a few gyms I didn't know about before. I'll research them and pay the ones I like the look of a visit and see how it goes. I'll try return with any impressions made upon me!

thehamo

Dead Ed wrote: »

OP, most of the crossfit gyms have some sort of blog format where they list their programming and you can go back over a year or more and see if the progression in each case appeals to you.

Crossfit Ireland workouts
I haven't been keeping an eye on this, last time I did (maybe about 18 months or so ago) I think they did some strength lift+short metcon type stuff, you can look back over the last few months to confirm that this is still the case.

Crossfit dublin programming

I think this is OPT style training, which is well regarded

Performance therapy Ireland is on the northside, but they have a link to the different services they offer so you don't have to do just crossfit.

There's also crossfit trojan which I know nowt about and ronin crossfit in fairview

hmmmm just found out theres a crossfit 5 minutes away from the apartment. Might have to go around and have a look!

le souteneur

I thought I might chip in since I trained in RAW for a number of months before joining CFI in September. OP RAW is a great gym, I had never trained much before but the leaning towards real performance based strength equipment I found great, they have the few cardio machines but not the rows and rows that are unecessary.
My brother trained Crossfit WODs there for a few months and manged well enough with the equipment, it gave him a great base then when he joined CFI just before me. It is a very good gym and great value for money as a student, if i was to move from CFI I would be straight back to RAW because it is just a great gym run by great people.
On the CFI argument/attack/friendly exchange of opinions I have to agree with Hanley. I find it brilliant (expensive yes) but I would prefer to pay more to get great training and spend my money learning lifts in the correct manner and not on going to the physio to sort out problems due to lifts done in an incorrect manner. I see it as an investment myself because if I do want to leave at any point then I can bring that knowledge with me and further my training myself how I see fit in again a safe manner.
Crossfit is not just about getting strong, it is an all-round fitness methodology and this is why I enjoy it myself. If I only wanted to get strong then I would join a powerlifting/weightlifting gym but I wanted something all-round, some people like that idea and some people dont. it does however open my eyes to all the areas of training and from there I could choose to go down any particular roo.

Stop the ranting, there's my two cents (and a bit of change)

ManannanMacLir

le souteneur wrote: »

I thought I might chip in since I trained in RAW for a number of months before joining CFI in September. OP RAW is a great gym, I had never trained much before but the leaning towards real performance based strength equipment I found great, they have the few cardio machines but not the rows and rows that are unecessary.
My brother trained Crossfit WODs there for a few months and manged well enough with the equipment, it gave him a great base then when he joined CFI just before me. It is a very good gym and great value for money as a student, if i was to move from CFI I would be straight back to RAW because it is just a great gym run by great people.
On the CFI argument/attack/friendly exchange of opinions I have to agree with Hanley. I find it brilliant (expensive yes) but I would prefer to pay more to get great training and spend my money learning lifts in the correct manner and not on going to the physio to sort out problems due to lifts done in an incorrect manner. I see it as an investment myself because if I do want to leave at any point then I can bring that knowledge with me and further my training myself how I see fit in again a safe manner.
Crossfit is not just about getting strong, it is an all-round fitness methodology and this is why I enjoy it myself. If I only wanted to get strong then I would join a powerlifting/weightlifting gym but I wanted something all-round, some people like that idea and some people dont. it does however open my eyes to all the areas of training and from there I could choose to go down any particular roo.

Stop the ranting, there's my two cents (and a bit of change)

Thanks for your input! Really interesting to hear peoples experiences. Out of interest did you injure yourself at RAW by lifting incorrectly? Ever have a personal training session at RAW?

GoneFR

le souteneur wrote: »

I thought I might chip in since I trained in RAW for a number of months before joining CFI in September. OP RAW is a great gym, I had never trained much before but the leaning towards real performance based strength equipment I found great, they have the few cardio machines but not the rows and rows that are unecessary.
My brother trained Crossfit WODs there for a few months and manged well enough with the equipment, it gave him a great base then when he joined CFI just before me. It is a very good gym and great value for money as a student, if i was to move from CFI I would be straight back to RAW because it is just a great gym run by great people.
On the CFI argument/attack/friendly exchange of opinions I have to agree with Hanley. I find it brilliant (expensive yes) but I would prefer to pay more to get great training and spend my money learning lifts in the correct manner and not on going to the physio to sort out problems due to lifts done in an incorrect manner. I see it as an investment myself because if I do want to leave at any point then I can bring that knowledge with me and further my training myself how I see fit in again a safe manner.
Crossfit is not just about getting strong, it is an all-round fitness methodology and this is why I enjoy it myself. If I only wanted to get strong then I would join a powerlifting/weightlifting gym but I wanted something all-round, some people like that idea and some people dont. it does however open my eyes to all the areas of training and from there I could choose to go down any particular roo.

Stop the ranting, there's my two cents (and a bit of change)

The irony.