Would you shop someone to "de social"?

theg81der · 13-11-2011 9:18pm #1

My biatchy side is imagining what it would be like to do it but i really couldn`t - Hubbys ex has an undeclared income along with social welfare nearly dropped when I toted up what their getting its equivilent to 2 incomes, mean while we`re scrimping by to pay maintanence for their daughter (which of course we should be paying no gripes there).

This woman has spent a decade doing everthing she can to wreck my head and has cause me a lot of upset. I love their daugher and couldn`t do anything to hurt her so like I say I couldn`t do it.

So how wicked is your wicked side would you do it given the chance, ladies opinions especially?

flutterflye · 13-11-2011 9:22pm

No I wouldn't, not under most circumstances anyway.
Sounds to me like you just have something personal against this woman.
Think about it - shop her and what do you achieve?
It doesn't help you and your financial situation at all does it?
I know it's illegal, but I personally stand by my own morals over the law with most things, and ethically, I just could not do it.

chin_grin · 13-11-2011 9:22pm

What the...............oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh. Rat you mean?

orourkeda · 13-11-2011 9:22pm

Without one iota of a doubt

Kensington · 13-11-2011 9:22pm

What, reporting someone for scamming the state is exposing your wicked side? Fook that!

Every Euro someone scams off the state is a Euro they could be putting into a hospital, a nursing home or a school.

orourkeda · 13-11-2011 9:23pm

theg81der wrote: »

My biatchy side is imagining what it would be like to do it but i really couldn`t - Hubbys ex has an undeclared income along with social welfare nearly dropped when I toted up what their getting its equivilent to 2 incomes, mean while we`re scrimping by to pay maintanence for their daughter (which of course we should be paying no gripes there).

This woman has spent a decade doing everthing she can to wreck my head and has cause me a lot of upset. I love their daugher and couldn`t do anything to hurt her so like I say I couldn`t do it.

So how wicked is your wicked side would you do it given the chance, ladies opinions especially?

You have the perfect excuse to f*ck this woman in the sphincter (in the proverbial sense of course)

Thrill · 13-11-2011 9:24pm

Kensington wrote: »

Every Euro someone scams off the state is a Euro they could be putting into a hospital, a nursing home or a school.

Or a bank.

hondasam · 13-11-2011 9:24pm

All social welfare cheats are robbing the country and the tax payer, they should be reported.

Crazy Horse 6 · 13-11-2011 9:25pm

No chance.

orourkeda · 13-11-2011 9:28pm

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

No chance.

Must be the liverpool influence

Mr Trade In · 13-11-2011 9:28pm

Kensington wrote: »

What, reporting someone for scamming the state is exposing your wicked side? Fook that!

Every Euro someone scams off the state is a Euro they could be putting into a dead bank, the pocket of a greedy former TD or to the bond holders of a defunct bank.

FYP.

woodoo · 13-11-2011 9:28pm

I don't think i could.

I think the government are playing a smart one though. They are saying that they want to make savings this year by cracking down on welfare fraud and they won't cut the headline welfare rates or increase taxes etc etc.

In other words if they can't make the savings from fraud they will be back to hit the common man and woman to make the necessarily savings. The choice being welfare fraudsters pay or YOU pay.

Cill Dara Abu · 13-11-2011 9:29pm

No chance I would report someone for SW fraud, its not my job!

orourkeda · 13-11-2011 9:29pm

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

No chance I would report someone for SW fraud, its not my job!

But its your money

papajimsmooth · 13-11-2011 9:30pm

Even if you did i cant imagine anything would come of it in this country

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 13-11-2011 9:31pm

Depends whether the person is a twat or not, is the longer and short of it.

binxeo · 13-11-2011 9:32pm

theg81der wrote: »

My biatchy side is imagining what it would be like to do it but i really couldn`t - Hubbys ex has an undeclared income along with social welfare nearly dropped when I toted up what their getting its equivilent to 2 incomes, mean while we`re scrimping by to pay maintanence for their daughter (which of course we should be paying no gripes there).

This woman has spent a decade doing everthing she can to wreck my head and has cause me a lot of upset. I love their daugher and couldn`t do anything to hurt her so like I say I couldn`t do it.

So how wicked is your wicked side would you do it given the chance, ladies opinions especially?

If there is a child involved I beg of you to please not do this.

galwayrush · 13-11-2011 9:33pm

I've had to lay off all of my staff because i couldn't compete with being undercut in jobs by people working while they claim the dole. All i got for trying to do the right thing was a **** load of trouble from the revenue because i couldn't get enough money from jobs to pay what was due.
**** them, cheats are destroying the country as much as the feckless bastards who run it.

fedor.2. · 13-11-2011 9:34pm

orourkeda wrote: »

But its your money

No it isnt, its yours

John Doe1 · 13-11-2011 9:34pm

Well i would unless it was someone in my immediate family. Its not being a rat its being a good citizen

fedor.2. · 13-11-2011 9:35pm

John Doe1 wrote: »

Well i would unless it was someone in my immediate family. Its not being a rat its being a good citizen

And a rat

Logical Fallacy · 13-11-2011 9:36pm

binxeo wrote: »

If there is a child involved I beg of you to please not do this.

Yes, because criminal activity is fine if it benefits a child in some way.

MyKeyG · 13-11-2011 9:36pm

In my view somebody who knows about Welfare fraud and decides not to report it is an accomplice to a crime and should be charged accordingly. Sorry OP. That means you!

Liam Byrne · 13-11-2011 9:36pm

Don't do it out of revenge.....do it out of decency and ethics.

minidazzler · 13-11-2011 9:36pm

binxeo wrote: »

If there is a child involved I beg of you to please not do this.

A lot of welfare cheats have kids, that doesn't make it OK. Not only is the woman the OP mentioned getting money off the state, she is also neglecting to pay taxes, costing more. Fcuk her, she deserves no sympathy or leeway.

Biggins · 13-11-2011 9:36pm

I'm going to be totally honest and not afraid to say what others might be fearful to in case of reaction.

I would - in certain circumstances.

If I saw a genuine case of a decent person (with a family or not), constantly looking for constant work but finding none - but does once in a while pick up a nixer, I would be very reluctant to report them.

* HOWEVER if I knew of someone claiming the full dole and was actually working five days a week nixers and was in possible very decent legal normal job too, Yes, I would report them.

Richard Hillman · 13-11-2011 9:37pm

Yes if it was in my best interests. My cousin is cohabiting with the father of her kids but claims lone parents. If i shopped her in i would probably have to endure her and her kids in my house more often. I defo shop people in who i dont like.

pragmatic1 · 13-11-2011 9:37pm

I'd shop her. But only to satisfy a grudge.

hondasam · 13-11-2011 9:38pm

These threads are always the same, it's ok to rob the country and the tax payer,it's the workers that are getting the pay cuts. why all the sympathy for people on SW.
I have sympathy for any one who has lost their job but not for people claiming SW and working.

People on welfare are undercutting self employed people who are trying to make a living,why because they are guaranteed an income every week.

fedor.2. · 13-11-2011 9:38pm

Biggins wrote: »

I'm going to be totally honest and not afraid to say what others might be fearful to in case of reaction.

I would - in certain circumstances.

If I saw a genuine case of a decent person (witha family or not), looking for constant work but finding none - but does once in a while pick up a nixer, I would be very reluctant to report them.

* HOWEVER if I knew of someone claiming the full dole and was actually working five days a week nixers and was in possible very decent legal normal job too, Yes, I would report them.

My thoughts exactly, good common sense

John Doe1 · 13-11-2011 9:39pm

fedor.2. wrote: »

And a rat

explain? the person in question is cheating the country for their own personal gain.

theg81der · 13-11-2011 9:39pm

binxeo wrote: »

If there is a child involved I beg of you to please not do this.

Your post makes me want to which if you read my post I said twice I couldn`t - I love my step child and would never do anything to hurt her which is why this biatch has got away with treating me so badly, at the end of the day thats her mother and I never forget that. I would have literally puched any other person who has done the stuff she has and I`m not normally violent!

binxeo · 13-11-2011 9:40pm

minidazzler wrote: »

A lot of welfare cheats have kids, that doesn't make it OK. Not only is the woman the OP mentioned getting money off the state, she is also neglecting to pay taxes, costing more. Fcuk her, she deserves no sympathy or leeway.

But the children stand to suffer. And if the OP was found out it would ruin their relationship with the daughter.

Please Kill Me · 13-11-2011 9:41pm

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Yes, because criminal activity is fine if it benefits a child in some way.

It's not about if it benefits a child, it may be that the repocusions (sp) may have a bad affect on the child!!! :mad:

Saganist · 13-11-2011 9:41pm

This country is gas. Moan to the high hill about the state of the economy.

Sees blatant social welfare fraud.

Says nothing.

And calls people who would, a rat... Typical..

COYW · 13-11-2011 9:43pm

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

No chance I would report someone for SW fraud, its not my job!

Typical Irish attitude which has us in the state we are in, as a country. In years to come the economy will turn in a positive sense and cronyism will reign as strong as it was before due to attitudes like this.

OP, the women is a filthy thief, no better than any crooked banker. Report her, it is your moral duty.

HeidiHeidi · 13-11-2011 9:43pm

Saganist wrote: »

This country is gas. Moan to the high hill about the state of the economy.

Sees blatant social welfare fraud.

Says nothing.

And calls people who would, a rat... Typical..

+1

Sometimes I despair of us all (or most of us, reading this thread), I really do.

minidazzler · 13-11-2011 9:43pm

binxeo wrote: »

But the children stand to suffer. And if the OP was found out it would ruin their relationship with the daughter.

How badly would the child suffer really? No matter what she will still have food on her back and clothes in her mouth, with an income and money from the OP's partner I'm sure they have enough to survive. Claiming more is simply cnutish.

Also, one can anonymously report to the Dept of Social Protection and it just makes them take a close look at someone, it seems random.

hondasam · 13-11-2011 9:43pm

binxeo wrote: »

But the children stand to suffer. And if the OP was found out it would ruin their relationship with the daughter.

Please Kill Me wrote: »

It's not about if it benefits a child, it may be that the repocusions (sp) may have a bad affect on the child!!! :mad:

Sorry OP for this.

Take the child out of the equation it's irrelevant. SW fraud is wrong. This is not about the child or the relationship the op has with the child.

binxeo · 13-11-2011 9:44pm

theg81der wrote: »

Your post makes me want to which if you read my post I said twice I couldn`t - I love my step child and would never do anything to hurt her which is why this biatch has got away with treating me so badly, at the end of the day thats her mother and I never forget that. I would have literally puched any other person who has done the stuff she has and I`m not normally violent!

Your step daughter will find out about what her mother is doing and also the way the mother has treated you and that will change the way your step daughter sees her. Believe me there is such a thing as Karma and this one will get hers. You don't want to be the bad one in this equation. Believe me as a mother nothing would hurt me more then if my son was closer to his step mother then me. So I think as the saying goes revenge is a dish best served cold. Don't rat this one up, let her daughter be judge and executioner and that will be worse in the long run!!!

fedor.2. · 13-11-2011 9:44pm

John Doe1 wrote: »

explain? the person in question is cheating the country for their own personal gain.

None of your business though is it? There are people employed to look in to welfare fraud, your ratting could cost them their jobs, like that would ya?

theg81der · 13-11-2011 9:44pm

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Depends whether the person is a twat or not, is the longer and short of it.

Agh I`m not saying she is a twat I`m saying she is a twat to me but at the end of the day I`m married to someone who didn`t think she was good enough to marry and in her head that somehow became my fault - she was engaged to someone else by the time I met him so nothing to do with me.

super_furry · 13-11-2011 9:45pm

Depends. Is there a reward?

fedor.2. · 13-11-2011 9:45pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

+1

Sometimes I despair of us all (or most of us, reading this thread), I really do.

Get over it

Thrill · 13-11-2011 9:45pm

minidazzler wrote: »

How badly would the child suffer really? No matter what she will still have food on her back and clothes in her mouth, with an income and money from the OP's partner I'm sure they have enough to survive. Claiming more is simply cnutish.

Also, one can anonymously report to the Dept of Social Protection and it just makes them take a close look at someone, it seems random.

Red Alert · 13-11-2011 9:46pm

OP I certainly would. I'm fed up of paying tax, but I'm really mad at paying tax to support people who are scamming the system.

Will I Amnt · 13-11-2011 9:46pm

My neighbour was renting out their council house to another family while they obviously have somewhere else to live.
Now they just live there at weekends and it's lying empty all week.

I don't really know these people so don't know what their background is or where else they live or if they own the other house but it does piss me off to be paying a mortgage and that going on beside me.

Still couldn't bring myself to rat them out though.

Saganist · 13-11-2011 9:46pm

fedor.2. wrote: »

None of your business though is it? There are people employed to look in to welfare fraud, your ratting could cost them their jobs, like that would ya?

The people employed to "look into it", really depend on people to tell them who it is thats committing the fraud. So I don't really understand your post. Its not like the SW just pick a name out of a hat..

John Doe1 · 13-11-2011 9:47pm

fedor.2. wrote: »

None of your business though is it? There are people employed to look in to welfare fraud, your ratting could cost them their jobs, like that would ya?

I think you will find its everyone's business. And its their own fault if that happens

Please Kill Me · 13-11-2011 9:47pm

super_furry wrote: »

Depends. Is there a reward?

WTF does that have to do with anything???? FFS! :mad:

fedor.2. · 13-11-2011 9:48pm

Saganist wrote: »

The people employed to "look into it", really depend on people to tell them who it is thats committing the fraud. So I don't really understand your post. Its not like the SW just pick a name out of a hat..

Do your neighbors know that you spy on them??

Would you shop someone to "de social"?

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