Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

dodo mommy

From what weight would most of ye be bulling Lmx heifer's?

ABitofsense

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119203152#Comment_119203152

Last few years, I had them from 450kgs as I'd calve them at 24-26mths.

Gudstock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119190972#Comment_119190972

I had a bunch last year off of heifers, best group of AAs i ever had. Mine were certainly as calm as the other breeds and were always keen to see the ration coming.

patsy_mccabe

I saw the teaser following a cow late last night, as I was drawing bales from a field beside them. Neighbour checks them every morning and saw no activity at all. I just got her AI'd there and he said she was on.

The same cow went months last year without going in calf until I spotted her bulling with 2 others in the middle of the night. It just goes to show how short heats can be and how hard it is to spot them. Teaser does have a chinball but he doesn't mark them that well.

bogman_bass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119203152#Comment_119203152

Anything over 400 I bull 380if their Angus

60% of mature weight

James2022

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119190972#Comment_119190972

Have a heifer. Not the most docile Angus.

High bike

A general enquiry about Gamin for anyone uwho used him,did ye find the gestation very long?

ABitofsense

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119217051#Comment_119217051

1st calves for me this year from him: bulls 287 (LMx cow) & 293 (AAx cow), heifers: 288 (AAx cow) & 289 (LM cow).

He's longer than any of the other LM bulls I've used on my cows. The 2 heifers are really good quiet calves. He's a great bull.

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119217051#Comment_119217051

Last 2 Gamin calves here - bull at 292 days, heifer at 281 days. A lot has to do with the cows breeding. That heifer was from a heifer with 5 stars gestation.

Sugarbowl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119217051#Comment_119217051

Gamin came fast for me this year on 2 cows. Both under 290 days I’d say. As said above prob down to the cow too.

High bike

Thanks for the replies have one here at 297 and not a notion of calving this week end I'd say

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119217903#Comment_119217903

Sadly it’s the cow effect, used the same bull on 3 cows- 285, 286 & 293 days

Durrus Boy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119217123#Comment_119217123

For anyone using Gamin it's time to start keeping an eye on his availability, he died late last year....

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119222805#Comment_119222805

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119222805#Comment_119222805

All things considered there hasn’t been a better commercially available Limousin bull than Gamin imo. They reckon that their new bull Record is going to be a serious bull. Have you tried Loyal? Easy calved and great shape/muscle to them i find.

patsy_mccabe

I've a 2 year old heifer calving to Loyal in the coming days. She's gone 290 days today, so fingers crossed. She's a big heifer and not that big in the belly so far. When the time comes around to calving these heifers, you're always glad you went easy calving.

James2022

Cow I'm culling this year came in heat Wednesday morning standing. Counting them Thursday morning and she was still in standing heat. I finally have an answer why she never holds AI but holds the bull.

Sugarbowl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119223022#Comment_119223022

did your heifer calf Patsy? Nice calf?

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119230596#Comment_119230596

Not yet. Pins starting to drop a bit so expecting something in the next day or two.

Seanhorse91

Few calves in the last 2 weeks.

Top is a Mas du Clo heifer calf from a Cerberus x sympa 2nd calver.

Bottom is a Joskins bull calf with his Dam, who goes back to Fl22. No shortage of milk.

Also calves out of Gamin, Loyal and Cavelands Jolly. Gamin was handy at birth but shaping up well. Loyal was early, very handy, probably only 30kg, but thriving away. Jolly off a 2nd calver Ch x Lim, good sized heifer calf but calved herself

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119231291#Comment_119231291

day or two is up now.

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119240995#Comment_119240995

The apple must be ripe before it will fall. Gone 4 days now. Maybe putting her in the shed on her own upset her a bit.

golodge

Know that this bull isn't very well known, but going to give my opinion. Very nice calves, good shape, growing well and great calving ease. Tomschoice Onslow. Used on heifers and cows, 5 calves on the ground, not a single assist.

First heifer will be one month old tomorrow. From a short legged cow, but the calf is showing some good size. Second calf is around 3 weeks old in the photo. The third heifer is from simxlimxangusx first calver. Very good growth, shape. What I really like about his calves, is that they seem to have wide rear part. Overall very nice calves, but pelvic region stands out. Hopefully his daughters will be good cows in the future. So far three heifers and two bulls. One more blondex heifer is due with his calf on the 5th of September.

golodge

Had the last Vrb (Verbeterd roodbont) sired calf calf born last night. From 13years old 3/4 lim cow, 291 days gestation, heifer. The cow never missed a year and probably only had two bull calves in her whole lifetime. Four daughters in production, several graddaughters and one more her heifer is for AI this year.

Had three calves from one bull and three calves from another vrb bull. Not a single assist, the biggest was heifer from angusx cow, 51,5kg. All calves are pretty nice, but one bull's calves are just better looking.

Two black heifers are by the same sire as the newborn. Should be a nice one in the future. Already shows some good muscle definition.

Got another Vrb bull for use this year. So far only one cow AI'ed. Liking the breed so far. Easier calved than blues it seems, but longer gestation.

pingg10

anyone keep heifers from lm2010

poor figures for replacement but one id like to keep

James2022

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119255206#Comment_119255206

Reliable figures say it will be a wild animal with poor milk, lower fertility and poor calving ability

sonnybill

I’ve A heifer out of him and can’t fault her, had a serious black zag bull too first time out

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119223022#Comment_119223022

Well she just calved. 301 days. I can't figure this out. I doubled checked my records and ICBF agree with me on the AI date.

She popped her out, no problem. 90 mins from crubeens just showing to up and drinking on her own. Nice lively heifer. Sucking like mad.

tanko

Loyal is a serious bull on the right type of cow, works very well on Simx and Limx cows with good size i find, great shape to them.

High bike

Want to pick people's brains for a minute will explain what I'm at in a few days.Whats the longest gestation anyone has see or even heard of for a Limousine

tanko

Think 305 was the longest here, used KJB a good bit one year, was a disaster gestation wise, easy calved at the same time tho, nice heifers but plain bulls.