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  • 25-10-2011 8:41pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    Just wanted to relay an incident that happened to me this evening.

    Was trying to find a parking spot this evening in my local suburban village. Went "around the block" twice and found a spot.
    I saw a Range Rover Vogue parked in a disabled parking spot with driver still inside.
    I saw there was no disabled badge showing so I tapped on the driver window and told her she was parked in a disabled spot.
    She replied that she was using her phone (as an excuse for being parked).
    I said that it was against the law to be parked there without a permit and that I was going to photograph her vehicle and report it to the gardai.
    As I was photographing her Range Rover the car parked in front of her moved off and she pulled forward into a legal space.
    I went off about my business and maybe 5 minutes later went back to my car, opened it and let my wife into the car. I then decided to report the Range Rover driver at the garda station (my car was parked across the road from the garda station).
    I went in and complained about the Range Rover. Garda agreed that it was not on but said that he had to see it in the disabled spot with his own eyes in order to prosecute.
    I said fair enough, I felt better for having reported it and said to the garda that I would report such vehicles to the gardai in future rather than speaking to the driver (as the garda could just walk out of the station and see the car "in the act").
    When I returned to my car and got in a man came to my drivers door and demanded that I roll down the window. With the tone and aggressive way that he came to my car I refused his request. He then demanded that I step out of the car and said "what are you doing, intimidating that lady", pointing over to the Range Rover. I said that I had nothing to say to him and that anything I had to say was already said at the garda station.
    I told him to move away from my car and that I felt threatened by him.
    He said "how does it feel now" and took out his camera phone and started taking photos of me and then, when I managed to move my car out, he ran over to the passenger side and took a photo of my wife as well as my tax and insurance disc's.
    My wife let the window down slightly and said that she was ringing the gardai. He said "Good girl, go ahead".
    I found a space in the traffic and pulled out onto the road proper and he shouted "I'll see you around buddy, see you around"
    I rang the gardai and reported what happened - it was the same garda who I spoke to originally when reporting the Range Rover parked in the disabled bay.

    Sorry for the long story. Garda wants to know if I want to press charges regarding the threatening behaviour.
    I am worried about the sinister "I'll see you around buddy" parting statement of this guy.
    Should I make a formal statement - Garda has given me an appointment time to make a statement. Should I make a statement or should I just let it go?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    sit down, and have a tall glass of freezing cold Bulmers.


    you'll feel better then :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    That's not on. Make a statement. Goodness knows what a nutter like that would do on someone else.

    To be fair, if you had just politely said it to the woman or better still said nothing, this could have been all avoided. To be fair she did move into a legal space when another car moved.

    That man sounds like hes not used to people standing up to him imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    In the immortal words of Bilbo Baggins: "Keep your nose out of trouble, and no trouble will come to you".

    You sound like you have nothing better to do, so whatever mess you got into, you seem to have put yourself firmly there. I mean, reporting a car to the Gardai for pulling into a disabled space in order to take a phone call? Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    Definitely make a statement, clowns like this will always try and intimidate people, a visit from the cops will take the smirk of his face. The fact that it's a range rover means this fella is probably used to using his wealth to belittle people.

    Letting it go means this little dicked muppet will think it's okay to keep acting like this. The threat of a court appearance/conviction/name in the papers will do his attitude a favour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Report the ****er.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ..........
    I am worried about the sinister "I'll see you around buddy" parting statement of this guy.
    Should I make a formal statement - Garda has given me an appointment time to make a statement. Should I make a statement or should I just let it go?

    Don't worry :)
    This lad is a nothing more than a bully, he had you sized up as a non aggressive type and knew you posed no threat to him.

    In saying that, make a statement :pac:
    Did the Garda make contact with this goon?

    I can't really see them having any sort of case against him really though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Hi

    Just wanted to relay an incident that happened to me this evening.

    Was trying to find a parking spot this evening in my local suburban village. Went "around the block" twice and found a spot.
    I saw a Range Rover Vogue parked in a disabled parking spot with driver still inside.
    I saw there was no disabled badge showing so I tapped on the driver window and told her she was parked in a disabled spot.
    She replied that she was using her phone (as an excuse for being parked).
    I said that it was against the law to be parked there without a permit and that I was going to photograph her vehicle and report it to the gardai.
    As I was photographing her Range Rover the car parked in front of her moved off and she pulled forward into a legal space.
    I went off about my business and maybe 5 minutes later went back to my car, opened it and let my wife into the car. I then decided to report the Range Rover driver at the garda station (my car was parked across the road from the garda station).
    I went in and complained about the Range Rover. Garda agreed that it was not on but said that he had to see it in the disabled spot with his own eyes in order to prosecute.
    I said fair enough, I felt better for having reported it and said to the garda that I would report such vehicles to the gardai in future rather than speaking to the driver (as the garda could just walk out of the station and see the car "in the act").
    When I returned to my car and got in a man came to my drivers door and demanded that I roll down the window. With the tone and aggressive way that he came to my car I refused his request. He then demanded that I step out of the car and said "what are you doing, intimidating that lady", pointing over to the Range Rover. I said that I had nothing to say to him and that anything I had to say was already said at the garda station.
    I told him to move away from my car and that I felt threatened by him.
    He said "how does it feel now" and took out his camera phone and started taking photos of me and then, when I managed to move my car out, he ran over to the passenger side and took a photo of my wife as well as my tax and insurance disc's.
    My wife let the window down slightly and said that she was ringing the gardai. He said "Good girl, go ahead".
    I found a space in the traffic and pulled out onto the road proper and he shouted "I'll see you around buddy, see you around"
    I rang the gardai and reported what happened - it was the same garda who I spoke to originally when reporting the Range Rover parked in the disabled bay.

    Sorry for the long story. Garda wants to know if I want to press charges regarding the threatening behaviour.
    I am worried about the sinister "I'll see you around buddy" parting statement of this guy.
    Should I make a formal statement - Garda has given me an appointment time to make a statement. Should I make a statement or should I just let it go?

    For gods sake forget about it and mind your own business in future, you brought this on yourself. You are neither a traffic warden or garda so in future stay out of incidents such as you have described.

    P.s I feel a little sorry for you but you really need to get some sense or you will get your jaw broken when you approach the next person, also I dont think it was the most sensible to take a photo of a car when there was a lady in it.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    ...................

    ......... you really need to get some sense or you will get your jaw broken when you approach the next person.....................

    That's good advice really, there are a lot of very very stressed people wandering around these days, many RR folk would be up to their ears in debt and it mightn't take much to push one over the edge, not fun, especially if you have your good lady wife with you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,107 ✭✭✭John R


    qz wrote: »
    In the immortal words of Bilbo Baggins: "Keep your nose out of trouble, and no trouble will come to you".

    You sound like you have nothing better to do, so whatever mess you got into, you seem to have put yourself firmly there.

    Yes, because it is not the woman and (presumably) her scumbag hubby that get aggressive and make threats to people that are at fault. :rolleyes:

    Nothing is guaranteed to rile the scum up more than people pulling them up on their bad behaviour.

    I really can't stand that attitude that you are free to do as you please unless the Gardai are watching and any other member of society that dares to challenge you is "asking for it".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    Fairly annoying seeing idiots parking in disabled parking spaces. But you acting like a traffic warden or Garda is not on. Looks like you got a dose of your own medicine ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Many people use the fear of innappropriate response to get their way. Do what you want here, it's your decision whether to take it forward or draw a line under it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    For gods sake forget about it and mind your own business in future, you brought this on yourself. You are neither a traffic warden or garda so in future stay out of incidents such as you have described.

    P.s I feel a little sorry for you but you really need to get some sense or you will get your jaw broken when you approach the next person, also I dont think it was the most sensible to take a photo of a car when there was a lady in it.
    I hear what you're saying. My attitude, up to now is that, in a civilised society it is permissible to communicate your dissatiisfaction with anti social behaviour. With declining garda numbers, more and more of these types can get away with whatever they want if ordinary members of society just shrug their shoulders and walk on.
    I do agree that it is possible to put myself in harms way but I don't believe that the public should just ignore blatant anti social behaviour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭Antikythera


    Hi

    Just wanted to relay an incident that happened to me this evening.

    Was trying to find a parking spot this evening in my local suburban village. Went "around the block" twice and found a spot.
    I saw a Range Rover Vogue parked in a disabled parking spot with driver still inside.
    I saw there was no disabled badge showing so I tapped on the driver window and told her she was parked in a disabled spot.
    She replied that she was using her phone (as an excuse for being parked).
    I said that it was against the law to be parked there without a permit and that I was going to photograph her vehicle and report it to the gardai.
    As I was photographing her Range Rover the car parked in front of her moved off and she pulled forward into a legal space.
    I went off about my business and maybe 5 minutes later went back to my car, opened it and let my wife into the car. I then decided to report the Range Rover driver at the garda station (my car was parked across the road from the garda station).
    I went in and complained about the Range Rover. Garda agreed that it was not on but said that he had to see it in the disabled spot with his own eyes in order to prosecute.
    I said fair enough, I felt better for having reported it and said to the garda that I would report such vehicles to the gardai in future rather than speaking to the driver (as the garda could just walk out of the station and see the car "in the act").
    When I returned to my car and got in a man came to my drivers door and demanded that I roll down the window. With the tone and aggressive way that he came to my car I refused his request. He then demanded that I step out of the car and said "what are you doing, intimidating that lady", pointing over to the Range Rover. I said that I had nothing to say to him and that anything I had to say was already said at the garda station.
    I told him to move away from my car and that I felt threatened by him.
    He said "how does it feel now" and took out his camera phone and started taking photos of me and then, when I managed to move my car out, he ran over to the passenger side and took a photo of my wife as well as my tax and insurance disc's.
    My wife let the window down slightly and said that she was ringing the gardai. He said "Good girl, go ahead".
    I found a space in the traffic and pulled out onto the road proper and he shouted "I'll see you around buddy, see you around"
    I rang the gardai and reported what happened - it was the same garda who I spoke to originally when reporting the Range Rover parked in the disabled bay.

    Sorry for the long story. Garda wants to know if I want to press charges regarding the threatening behaviour.
    I am worried about the sinister "I'll see you around buddy" parting statement of this guy.
    Should I make a formal statement - Garda has given me an appointment time to make a statement. Should I make a statement or should I just let it go?

    Lol, a vigilante with no heart! I might suggest 'Captain Yellow' if you're looking for a title.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    RoverJames wrote: »
    That's good advice really, there are a lot of very very stressed people wandering around these days, many RR folk would be up to their ears in debt and it mightn't take much to push one over the edge, not fun, especially if you have your good lady wife with you :)

    And the other way around, people would want to watch who they are mouthing off too. There are alot of nutters that have disabled people in there family that might have problems with non disabled people parking in these spots, could set them off too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Many people use the fear of innappropriate response to get their way. Do what you want here, it's your decision whether to take it forward or draw a line under it.
    Looking for opinions. I'm getting plenty of them. So uncommon on the motors forum;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭Eleganza


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    For gods sake forget about it and mind your own business in future, you brought this on yourself. You are neither a traffic warden or garda so in future stay out of incidents such as you have described.
    Damn straight! Sure the disabled don't mind being inconvenienced for fifteen minutes or more while an auld Wagon chats about what not on the phone and it's not like every second parking space isn't a disabled parking space either.
    And if they did take exception sure couldn't they just walk straight up to her and give her a piece of their mind....oh....hang on....maybe not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Tito Ortiz


    U took a photo of a woman in a car... U thought u were the big man bullying the woman. Thats what the gardai are for.. U got off lightly, and put ur wife in danger

    A closed mouth catches no flies !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Tito Ortiz wrote: »
    U took a photo of a woman in a car... U thought u were the big man bullying the woman. Thats what the gardai are for.. U got off likely, and put ur wife in danger

    A closed mouth catches no flies !!!
    Just to be clear, I was taking a photo of the vehicle, not the driver. I was not offensive or aggressive in any way and I informed the lady that I was photographing her vehicle to report to the gardai. At no stage did I bully the lady or attempt to bully her.
    Thanks for the opinion though - I must be a likely lad to get off likely:rolleyes:

    Thanks for the closed mouth advice - does your missus drive a Range Rover?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Should I make a formal statement - Garda has given me an appointment time to make a statement. Should I make a statement or should I just let it go?

    Wait a second.
    You want to make a complaint about a guy who came to your car, asked you to open the window, said something to you and took few pictures of your car, right? Am I missing something?

    Only few minutes earlier, you did exactly the same to the lady in Land Rover.

    What did you expect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭ZENER


    Amazing !! We have a thread here entitled "Obnoxious Parking" where this sort of behaviour would get the OP a medal and much kudos indeed !!

    Did anyone bother to ask if the OP was in possession of a Disabled Drivers permit ? Perhaps that's why he tackled the Range Rover driver who was without doubt in the wrong !

    Fair play to you OP ! That guy was just a bully, ignore him and continue to report these obnoxious parkers !

    Ken


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Just to be clear, I was taking a photo of the vehicle, not the driver. I was not offensive or aggressive in any way and I informed the lady that I was photographing her vehicle to report to the gardai. At no stage did I bully the lady or attempt to bully her.
    Thanks for the opinion though - I must be a likely lad to get off likely:rolleyes:

    Thanks for the closed mouth advice - does your missus drive a Range Rover?

    That is, in my opinion, intimidation as a form of bullying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    A woman by herself in a car doesn't take too kindly to a man standing there taking photos of her. You made your point, she moved the motor, you should have left it at that and gone about your business. Going into the Garda Station to report it after the event was pushing your indignation too far, you should be a headline writer for the Daily Mail.

    Nothing the man did to you would constitute a crime in my analysis of the situation. He took photos of you, he said 'see you around', do you really expect him to be convicted of a crime for that behaviour?

    It sounds to me like he went up to the wire but didn't cross any line. Whatever threats he made were entirely in your imagination, he didn't threaten you with violence by gesture or words so you have no case against him.

    Oh and by the way, a Garda does not need to see an offence 'with his own eyes', if that was the case nobody could be convicted of assault or shoplifting unless it happened under the eyes of a Garda. If he was inclined to he could have summonsed the lady and called you as a witness with your photos, you were being politely told to PFO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭jluv


    I'll thank the OP as My mother is a stroke suvivor who now is in a wheelchair. How many times we find it difficult to get disabled parking because able bodied people find it convenient at that moment to use a disabled parking space. Especially when it is raining. This is actually the time disabled persons and their helpers need these spaces. Yes, you will get slightly wet going whereever you are going. Now try taking out a wheelchair,assemble wheelchair,wait while disabled person slowly gets from car to wheelchair,gather yours and their belongings that you need from car and get to where you need to go. Fairly wet! So think people. Hre need to answer a phone call did not give her reason to use a disabled space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    ZENER wrote: »
    Amazing !! We have a thread here entitled "Obnoxious Parking" where this sort of behaviour would get the OP a medal and much kudos indeed !!

    Did anyone bother to ask if the OP was in possession of a Disabled Drivers permit ? Perhaps that's why he tackled the Range Rover driver who was without doubt in the wrong !

    Fair play to you OP ! That guy was just a bully, ignore him and continue to report these obnoxious parkers !

    Ken

    Sorry man but the biggest bully I can see in this story is OP.
    He started all the situation.
    He had no clue if Land rover really had no right to park in disabled space.
    Even there was no badge, there was still a driver in it - who could put up a badge at any minute.

    Besides from the story it looks like someone just pulled in disabled space to wait until other space was empty. I can't see anything wrong with it.
    Sitting in a car waiting for a minute, doesn't neccesserily mean parking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭gamgsam


    You gave as good as you got. The man who talked to you did no more than talk to you and take pictures. Any threat you felt is percieved and subjective. He made no definite threat from what you say in your post.

    Did you need the disabled spot to park in? Is that why you approached the woman? If so, it might be better next time to forget about the guardai, approach the driver and ask politely for them to move.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Tito Ortiz


    qz wrote: »
    That is, in my opinion, intimidation as a form of bullying.

    Agreed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭Eleganza




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Right so, I guess I'll crawl back under my rock and just turn a blind eye to such behaviour in the future.

    Turning a blind eye is a great cultural trait, it leads to great banks, responsible property developers and politicans of the highest calibre:rolleyes:
    I will sleep on it and decide tomorrow whether to make a statement.

    I would have some concern that he took a photo of my insurance disc though - thats a motivation in itself to make a formal statement if only to be able to refer to it if a dodgy claim comes about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Tails142


    Why making such a big point that its a range rover, badge envy or something? If it was a mondeo or something would you have pointed that out?

    I have seen the Gardaí pull up beside a car 'stopped' in a disabled bay, and move them along. OP, you should mind your own business unless you were looking to park in the disabled bay yourself... how did you know the driver wasn't disabled for instance?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭ZENER


    CiniO wrote: »
    Sorry man but the biggest bully I can see in this story is OP.
    He started all the situation.
    He had no clue if Land rover really had no right to park in disabled space.
    Even there was no badge, there was still a driver in it - who could put up a badge at any minute.

    Besides from the story it looks like someone just pulled in disabled space to wait until other space was empty. I can't see anything wrong with it.
    Sitting in a car waiting for a minute, doesn't neccesserily mean parking.

    A poor indication of the way society has gone in my opinion. Disabled spaces are for Drivers/vehicles in possession of an appropriate sticker. They are not holding places while you wait for an ordinary parking space or answer your phone or wait while the kids run in to the chipper (I saw this today in Swords !)

    The OP did right, the RR moved which was the desired outcome. The bully was the one with the problem, some nuckle dragger who felt obliged to protect his wifey from the bad man who pointed out a mistake she'd made !!

    Come on folks get real.

    Ken


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭Eleganza


    Tails142 wrote: »
    Why making such a big point that its a range rover, badge envy or something?
    A person with limited mobility would find it difficult to climb up in to a Range Rover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭jluv


    CiniO wrote: »
    Sorry man but the biggest bully I can see in this story is OP.
    He started all the situation.
    He had no clue if Land rover really had no right to park in disabled space.
    Even there was no badge, there was still a driver in it - who could put up a badge at any minute.

    Besides from the story it looks like someone just pulled in disabled space to wait until other space was empty. I can't see anything wrong with it.
    Sitting in a car waiting for a minute, doesn't neccesserily mean parking.
    Totally disagree. The OP took the time to drive around looking for a legit parking space as I'm sure that disabled parking space was available to him also but chose to do the right thing and not park there because a disabled user might ned it as parking was obviously limited at that time. Meanwhile the lady in question decided that she was important enough to park there until something else became available .What makes her different from everyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭TonyStark


    Tails142 wrote: »
    Why making such a big point that its a range rover, badge envy or something? If it was a mondeo or something would you have pointed that out?

    I have seen the Gardaí pull up beside a car 'stopped' in a disabled bay, and move them along. OP, you should mind your own business unless you were looking to park in the disabled bay yourself... how did you know the driver wasn't disabled for instance?

    I think to park in a disabled bay you need to display a blude badge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Tito Ortiz


    A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket and rejoices that the system works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭Juwwi



    I would have some concern that he took a photo of my insurance disc though - thats a motivation in itself to make a formal statement if only to be able to refer to it if a dodgy claim comes about

    Thats what I'd be concerned about.
    A visit to the guards to make a statement will only take 15 minutes if only to have it on file.

    You should of just left it at asking her to move imo but 2 wrongs dont make a right and he was wrong and you did'nt threaten the woman in the RR.

    The world is becoming more dangerous by the day you just dont know who the person standing next to u is any more.

    My advice report it for peace of mind and in future remember this incident
    when tempted to approach a stranger.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Tails142 wrote: »
    Why making such a big point that its a range rover, badge envy or something? If it was a mondeo or something would you have pointed that out?

    I have seen the Gardaí pull up beside a car 'stopped' in a disabled bay, and move them along. OP, you should mind your own business unless you were looking to park in the disabled bay yourself... how did you know the driver wasn't disabled for instance?
    Of course, you're right, it was all badge envy after all:rolleyes:
    The emphasis on teh vehicle is because it is one of the biggest suburban passeger "cars" on Irish Roads, so big that you have to climb into it. Its so obviously out of place in a disabled spot than any other vehicle on the road and yes there is always the underlying issue of the wealthy not obeying rules that are just for the "little" people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Right so, I guess I'll crawl back under my rock and just turn a blind eye to such behaviour in the future.

    Turning a blind eye is a great cultural trait, it leads to great banks, responsible property developers and politicans of the highest calibre:rolleyes:
    I will sleep on it and decide tomorrow whether to make a statement.

    I would have some concern that he took a photo of my insurance disc though - thats a motivation in itself to make a formal statement if only to be able to refer to it if a dodgy claim comes about
    maybe but it's propbably a shiite quality phone with flash obscuring what the out of focus image, grime and raindrops aren't. I would be very surprised if he got a usable quality image from that. I've moved back here from Africa after a few years , have to say Irish people seem fierce aggressive/deranged in comparison. My problem is I would get out of the car. Especially so close to the cop station ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    You wouldn't believe the number of people I see with broken jaws and broken/missing teeth that could have been avoided if they just minded their own business.....
    Yeah she's in the wrong and it's against the law and you may be a God fearing goodie two shoes driver but it doesn't matter how right you are when you have a handful of teeth, a smashed face and a court case and dental implant bill for €10k.

    Don't make a formal complaint as any further proceedings will involve them finding out your name and address.... Leave it as is, you have a pic of their car if anything ever happens....

    Just go about your own business and stop looking for trouble as you normally find it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    The blokes most likely full of shíte, probably trying to show off to the woman for whatever reason.
    I wouldn't bother reporting it to the guards as nothing can be done about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭jluv


    Right so, I guess I'll crawl back under my rock and just turn a blind eye to such behaviour in the future.

    Turning a blind eye is a great cultural trait, it leads to great banks, responsible property developers and politicans of the highest calibre:rolleyes:
    I will sleep on it and decide tomorrow whether to make a statement.

    I would have some concern that he took a photo of my insurance disc though - thats a motivation in itself to make a formal statement if only to be able to refer to it if a dodgy claim comes about
    Please don't stop being a concerned citizen.I'm sorry you are getting grief for it. I HAVE to have this arguement all the time so I think it's great that you feel strongly enough to do so even though you don't have to.Thanks..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    kceire wrote: »
    sit down, and have a tall glass of freezing cold Bulmers.


    you'll feel better then :D
    Lol, a vigilante with no heart! I might suggest 'Captain Yellow' if you're looking for a title.
    Tails142 wrote: »
    Why making such a big point that its a range rover, badge envy or something?

    We can do without the "comedy" answers and personal snipes please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    ZENER wrote: »
    A poor indication of the way society has gone in my opinion. Disabled spaces are for Drivers/vehicles in possession of an appropriate sticker. They are not holding places while you wait for an ordinary parking space or answer your phone or wait while the kids run in to the chipper (I saw this today in Swords !)
    Of course you are right here.
    But I still can't see too much problem with lady waiting there until other space was released. Of course it was against the law, as million of other things people do on the road.

    The OP did right, the RR moved which was the desired outcome. The bully was the one with the problem, some nuckle dragger who felt obliged to protect his wifey from the bad man who pointed out a mistake she'd made !!

    OP said himself that guy took pictures of his discs. Maybe that man suspected that OP was driving without tax or nct.
    He had the same right to take pictures of OP's discs, as OP of taking pictures of Land Rover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    OP I'd appreciate your time and effort for making a formal complaint against this bully. You've got my support FWIW.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ZENER wrote: »
    Amazing !! We have a thread here entitled "Obnoxious Parking" where this sort of behaviour would get the OP a medal and much kudos indeed !!

    ............

    The irony of that thread is that the person who started it had an issue with a lad using a mobility scooter on the road. Rarely look into that thread, one for the thanks whores imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    jluv wrote: »
    Please don't stop being a concerned citizen.I'm sorry you are getting grief for it. I HAVE to have this arguement all the time so I think it's great that you feel strongly enough to do so even though you don't have to.Thanks..
    Thanks yourself .. I am getting my sense of perspective back after all the negative posts. At the end of the day its about having spaces for people who NEED them:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭Eleganza


    Tito Ortiz wrote: »
    A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket and rejoices that the system works.
    Actually, having picked up speeding tickets for travelling 27kmph in a 20kmph zone and 35kmph in a 30kmph zone I'm glad that the system works in the country I live in compared to being back in Ireland where you take you life in your hands driving on the road every day and are disrespected at every turn by other road users.
    Enforcement of the rules of the road is great and if that means I have to pay 15 euro fines every now and then that's fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭McCrack


    Tails142 wrote: »
    Why making such a big point that its a range rover, badge envy or something? If it was a mondeo or something would you have pointed that out?

    I have seen the Gardaí pull up beside a car 'stopped' in a disabled bay, and move them along. OP, you should mind your own business unless you were looking to park in the disabled bay yourself... how did you know the driver wasn't disabled for instance?

    Exactly, OP you should mind your own business in public with things that do not effect you directly.

    You sound like a crank.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmD2wkQkhnE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    For gods sake forget about it and mind your own business in future, you brought this on yourself. You are neither a traffic warden or garda so in future stay out of incidents such as you have described.

    P.s I feel a little sorry for you but you really need to get some sense or you will get your jaw broken when you approach the next person, also I dont think it was the most sensible to take a photo of a car when there was a lady in it.

    Get his jaw broken for telling someone who's illegally parked to move? Would you cop on, some lad is going to beat him into hospital for telling someone to move? I don't really think he should of done it but i don't think he brought it on himself, it was just some ejjit looking for an excuse to try and act like a big man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭Eleganza


    CiniO wrote: »
    Of course you are right here.
    But I still can't see too much problem with lady waiting there until other space was released. Of course it was against the law, as million of other things people do on the road.




    OP said himself that guy took pictures of his discs. Maybe that man suspected that OP was driving without tax or nct.
    He had the same right to take pictures of OP's discs, as OP of taking pictures of Land Rover.
    What elements of the rules of the road don't you think apply to you.
    My experience of my Eastern European friends is that they wouldn't break the rules of the road when back in their home countries as the Police carry guns and will shake them down for whatever cash they are carrying on them. No fear of a ticket in the post. Their brand of justice is dispensed swiftly and without paperwork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    OP do you have a disabled parking permit for your car?

    There is nothing sure fire to ramp up someone's emotions than to have a stranger whip out a camera/phone and start taking pictures of you/your property.

    With the Garda station so close it would have been inherently easier and better to go straight across and inform them.

    The end result would have been far greater. The gobsh1te in the RR would have had the law come down on them and been fined (penalty points for this kinda offence yet??) and may have learned a lesson far better than the way you handled it. And hopefully you wouldn't have had to deal with the other guy.

    You live you learn I guess, your heart was in the right place but your way of handling it was not the best option available to you i'd say


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