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Why did nobody ever think of this before??

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    #32
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    I iz in ur bib, steeling mai dignity


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    #33
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    newballsplease wrote: »
    We have a cat about 2 half years now. I think ive seen him with 2 dead birds in that time. And one mouse.
    Its not a massive problem Cats killing Birds.
    Eh not quite...
    stupidusername wrote: »
    well actually.....

    there are a few species of birds that are being affected by predation by cats, and it is now recommended that we try stop cats catching as many birds, as some of these species are in decline.

    if you want to read more. that is in reference to Britain, I can't find anything on Ireland, but I would presume (possibly wrongly) that there's a likelihood Irish numbers may be having the same problem.
    +1. Cats are one of the biggest pressures on wild bird populations, particularly in urban areas. They've contributed to the outright extinction of quite a few species worldwide, particularly island ones. Maybe your kitty is pretty grand, but they defo have an effect. I noticed it myself when I was recently in between dogs. More cats coming in and stalking the bird feeders and the small birds fecking off. Since I got a new puppy this has stopped. The birds don't sem to be too miffed at dogs funny enough and a dog would have a go at a bird too(though usually something worth the hunt like a pigeon).

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    #34
    iguana
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 12,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭iguana


    token56 wrote: »
    There are already collars with bells on them. Work quite well.

    If by quite well you mean "not even remotely" you'd be right. Birds don't know that the sound of a bell is the sound of a predator. It's just humans being ridiculous and anthropomorphising birds. And cats, as has been said up thread, are a massive problem for certain species of native birds.


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    #35
    nommm
    Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭nommm


    I couldn't even get my cat to keep her collar on.


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    #36
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Neutering and spaying should be the norm. If a cat is a habitual killer (s)he should be curtailed in some way I reckon.


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    #37
    Jen Pigs Fly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    Because it's stupid?


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    #38
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    msg11 wrote: »
    Cat's are hunters and like to bring back there owners presents to say thanks for looking after them, so they bring back birds or vermin.

    They don't like going back empty to you because they see it as you the owner will not take this easy.

    So in turn they start to prey on socks and jocks from your neighbours washing line.

    This is no joke.

    wrote:
    When a mother cat is teaching her kittens to hunt she will bring home dead prey for the kittens to eat. Once they are older she will bring home injured prey for the kittens and make the final kill in front of the kittens.
    The school of thought with this one is that our cats think of their owners as somewhat incompetent hunters, and our cat is attempting to teach us how to hunt, as a female cat would teach her kittens

    .


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    #39
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    When a mother cat is teaching her kittens to hunt she will bring home dead prey for the kittens to eat. Once they are older she will bring home injured prey for the kittens and make the final kill in front of the kittens.
    The school of thought with this one is that our cats think of their owners as somewhat incompetent hunters, and our cat is attempting to teach us how to hunt, as a female cat would teach her kittens
    They will do it whether they are taught to or not. We got two kittens who were only 5 weeks old. They didn't have a mother cat to teach them how to kill. They were kept in the house for the first few months but when they started to live outside they learned to kill mice and birds. It must be instinctive.


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    #40
    Senna
    Registered Users Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    But if i put this on my cat how will she impress me by bring dead birds to my back door, thats the only reason i keep her.


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    #41
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Cats :rolleyes: Irrelevant since the invention of the mouse trap.


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    #42
    ringadingding
    Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    I is gonna lick mein arse how ?


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    #43
    4leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    newballsplease wrote: »
    We have a cat about 2 half years now. I think ive seen him with 2 dead birds in that time. And one mouse.
    Its not a massive problem Cats killing Birds.

    Im out.

    LOL
    If you only seen 3 dead birds and 1 dead mouse, your cat must have killed a hell of a lot more.

    But that is the cats nature, that what it does, that is what it likes to do, it better craic then a ball of wool.


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    #44
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Would cats from different neighbourhoods get different color bibs like gang colors to differentiate themselves from the other cats???

    blood_gang_formation.jpg


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    #45
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    eth0 wrote: »
    What a stupid idea and stops the cat from catching any vermin either. So will make yer cat 100% dependent on espensive cat food and prevent it from doing anything useful. brilliant result all round

    In fairness, there's a few things wrong with the "cat bib" but that's definitely not one of them


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    #46
    Naomi00
    Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Naomi00


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Neutering and spaying should be the norm. If a cat is a habitual killer (s)he should be curtailed in some way I reckon.



    That's what the vet said about my cat but it still killed rabbits and crows etc. Didn't stop him fighting other cats and dogs either.


    The only way I've ever been able to stop them from killing things is to distract the cat and let the animal/bird get away or bring the cat back into the house, but it makes them sad when they don't catch it. I really can't see how that bib thing would work, but it looks hilairious.


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    #47
    celticcrash
    Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭celticcrash


    They would not let you on dragons den with that crap.
    Who ever had to patent this, lost he`s money.


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    #48
    FruitLover
    Registered Users Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Neutering and spaying should be the norm. If a cat is a habitual killer (s)he should be curtailed in some way I reckon.

    Are you saying we should protect nature (birds) by.... unnaturally modifying our cats?

    Eh....


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    #49
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    celticcrash wrote: »
    They would not let you on dragons den with that crap.
    Who ever had to patent this, lost he`s money.
    Actually it's quite popular in the US so he's(or she's) made his money.

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    #50
    stevenmu
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Could we make a bigger version to stop fat people eating McDonalds?


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    #51
    Wibbs
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    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    They will do it whether they are taught to or not. We got two kittens who were only 5 weeks old. They didn't have a mother cat to teach them how to kill. They were kept in the house for the first few months but when they started to live outside they learned to kill mice and birds. It must be instinctive.
    Yea it's instinctive alright. Ditto with dogs. Though dogs generally get enough food not to be worrying about hunting. Even so your friendly little doggie will have a go if he or she has the opportunity to do so. "Worrying" sheep and the like. I've had dogs that have had a high prey drive and even with my best intentions have had a go at and killed and partially eaten foxes and cats that came into my/"their" garden.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #52
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    stevenmu wrote: »
    Could we make a bigger version to stop fat people eating McDonalds?

    Could just stop McDonalds

    The processed tripe they sell in there is bad for everyone not just fatties


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    #53
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Pity they didn't stick one on Ted Bundy.


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    #54
    The_B_Man
    Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    I thought bells on the collar were invented for this?


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    #55
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    iguana wrote: »
    If by quite well you mean "not even remotely" you'd be right. Birds don't know that the sound of a bell is the sound of a predator. It's just humans being ridiculous and anthropomorphising birds.

    I'm not sure about that. Birds are awfully nervous little things. The idea with the bell on the collar isn't that the birds will hear the bell and think "better fly away, there's one of those cat alarms going off" it's that any sudden noise will cause them to flick their head up and check what it was, disabling the cats ability to stalk silently and close the distance needed to make a successful attack.

    Any sort of link to a study or anything like that to support this 'birds ignore bells even though they ignore no other sounds whatsoever' hypothesis?


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    #56
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Worst product, EVER!


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    #57
    bfocusd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭bfocusd


    I can understand where they are coming from protecting declining species, but one thing not mentioned, if your cat has one of these on and is in an area with lots of dogs and cats, its going to get tore apart if it cant defend itself and im sure that will slow it down and make it harder to escape.

    That or the dog/cat will roll around laughing at how silly it looks and have pity..


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    #58
    CageWager
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    now to come up with a similar device to stop humans killing animals:D

    fcuk the food chain;)


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    #59
    Thrill
    Registered Users Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    They're awful looking things.

    http://www.catgoods.com/images/catbib_big_lightblue.jpg

    http://cellar.org/2005/catbib2.jpg

    http://cellar.org/2005/catbib1.jpg



    Makes pussy look like a twat.


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    #60
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    FruitLover wrote: »
    Are you saying we should protect nature (birds) by.... unnaturally modifying our cats?

    Eh....

    They can be kept in at certain times when birds feed AFAIK.

    I really like cats but if they'e having an adverse impact on our wild fauna then we should really make the effort to minimize it wouldn't you agree?.


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    #61
    Stiffler2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    LOL - that has to be the most stupidest invention I have ever seen

    + I'm morto for the Cat


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