Post-natal depression is a myth.

Kaneda_ · 22-10-2011 4:52pm #1

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

woodoo · 22-10-2011 4:53pm

Are you a doctor?

Miss Olenska · 22-10-2011 4:53pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

Tom? Is that you?

subway · 22-10-2011 4:54pm

That's what your ma said?

Kaneda_ · 22-10-2011 4:54pm

woodoo wrote: »

Are you a doctor?

A dentist.

woodoo · 22-10-2011 4:57pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

A dentist.

Psychiatrists most likely know more than you and they prob differ.

Barrt2 · 22-10-2011 4:59pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

Really could not agree more.

MungBean · 22-10-2011 4:59pm

Probably better off in humanities if your looking for serious discussion on this.

I'm not doctor but I'd have thought it would be different to other types of depression and thats why its labelled differently.

A woman with post natal depression would not display the same symptoms as a women with depression due to financial stress. But would display similar symptoms with other women who are developed depression after giving birth.

I doubt its as easy as "they are depressed because they regret it".

Biggins · 22-10-2011 5:00pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done. Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

And your qualified to say this stuff for sure how exactly?

I disagree with you.

woodoo · 22-10-2011 5:00pm

Is their a hormonal change after giving birth.

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 5:00pm

The entire field of Psychiatry is in severe disarray already. http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_dsmv/

“there is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bull****. I mean, you just can’t define it.” - Allen Frances, lead author of the DSM

If Psychiatry wants to maintain any credability, it should merge with a real science, like Neurology.

pragmatic1 · 22-10-2011 5:04pm

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

The entire field of Psychiatry is in severe disarray already. http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_dsmv/

“there is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bull****. I mean, you just can’t define it.” - Allen Frances, lead author of the DSM

If Psychiatry wants to maintain any credability, it should merge with a real science, like Neurology.

Whatever about psychiatry, psychology is at best a pseudoscience.

kelle · 22-10-2011 5:04pm

You have obviously never suffered from PND because if you did you'd bloody well know all about it! How can you refer to it as "only depression"??? It is nothing to do with regretting having the child and being unable to turn the clock back.

Such a statement is an insult to families like those of my colleague whose cousin ended up committing suicide as a result of it.

Maybe you believe cancer is "only in the mind" too.

Abi · 22-10-2011 5:04pm

Biggins wrote: »

And your qualified to say this stuff for sure how exactly?

I disagree with you.

Might be time to click on that ignore button again Biggins. This little beauty also came from the maker of "people that have children under 30 waste their lives".

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 5:07pm

kelle wrote: »

You have obviously never suffered from PND because if you did you'd bloody well know all about it! How can you refer to it as "only depression"??? It is nothing to do with regretting having the child and being unable to turn the clock back.

Such a statement is an insult to families like those of my colleague whose cousin ended up committing suicide as a result of it.

Maybe you believe cancer is "only in the mind" too.

How to you account for the lead author of that diagnostic criteria basically saying it's fake? I mean this guy literally wrote the book on mental illness, yet he is denouncing it as nonsense. Who to believe?

Cancer is a tangible disease pathogen. Post Natal Depression is about as descriptive as suffering from "the clap"

Biggins · 22-10-2011 5:09pm

Abi wrote: »

Might be time to click on that ignore button again Biggins. This little beauty also came from the maker of "people that have children under 30 waste their lives".

Yes, there certainly seems to be a chip on the shoulder, an attitude to aspects of others personal life's that stinks and in all, disagrees with what I have found to be very different in real life.

Piglet85 · 22-10-2011 5:09pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

What bollocks. I take it you've never heard of hormones, then? :rolleyes:

I bet you have no trouble believing that PMS is real, though.

chucken1 · 22-10-2011 5:14pm

Abi wrote: »

Might be time to click on that ignore button again Biggins. This little beauty also came from the maker of "people that have children under 30 waste their lives".

..and dont forget "a tax paying adult is more important than a child" ...;)

acfan · 22-10-2011 5:15pm

Don't ya just love it when people with little or no adequate medical (and when I say medical I mean a doctor or a nurse....not a dentist!) experience make ridiculous, extreme remarks which can only serve to upset people.

Clearly you have never encountered a patient who has suffered from PND, if you had you wouldn't ever be so insensitive as to post your opinion about their illness in a public forum.

kincsem · 22-10-2011 5:15pm

A lot of statements from the op. Do you have facts / stats to support them?

emzolita · 22-10-2011 5:17pm

I think OP just likes posting controversial topics to get a reaction.
"If i was to have a child,i would not be willing to die for it.
I was the one who gave the child life,so the child owes me life,so it must die."

Kaneda, you can't possibly claim to know such "facts" about psychology related things, if you've never suffered PND also, if you're a dentist.

OutlawPete · 22-10-2011 5:17pm

All hail the Thetans.

ejmaztec · 22-10-2011 5:21pm

I'm in awe of the resident mental-health experts.

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 5:23pm

Nobody has the balls to address the statement made by the man who basically wrote the book on mental illness denouncing the entire field as a sham. These so called "illnesses" should be observed under a neurological scope. Basic guesswork, throwing pills, and humming and hawing to reach a diagnosis is not science, it's at best, protoscience.

Psychiatry will fall if these extremly serious concerns aren't addressed. Mark my words.

AckwelFoley · 22-10-2011 5:25pm

Ladies and gentlemen,

This is he reason that depressed people go to a doctor and get help rather than going to a plumber or a dentist.

opinion guy · 22-10-2011 5:27pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

A dentist.

you've been smoking too much mercury friend

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Whatever about psychiatry, psychology is at best a pseudoscience.

You got that wrong way around.

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 5:33pm

Psychology does not pretend to be a science. Like Philosophy. Philosophy is an art that has great use. I have much respect for certain branches of Philosophy that extend to mathematical and logical thinking. Psychology I don't know enough about to reach a conclusion.

Psychiatry is a whole different matter. It's wishfull thinking masquerading as legitimate scientific enquiry:mad: A pill pushing exercise in lining the pockets of Big Pharma. There is a sea of credible evidence to support my statements. Google is your friend.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/health/2011/0920/1224304402832.html

stupidfishy · 22-10-2011 5:33pm

Mr Kaneda, what you have just said...is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in you rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it.
I award you no thanks, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Frowzy · 22-10-2011 5:33pm

When you've shoved a watermelon out your arse, fed it with your tits, not had a nights sleep in weeks and consider black sh1t normal while keeping a house and trying to explain to your husband why you're not quite ready to satisfy his needs, come back and talk to me.

Trolling is one thing, but a sexist arrogant one deserves a ban!

Biggins · 22-10-2011 5:37pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.

Say's who? Please back-up that claim!

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society.

This sounds like a rambling too general paragraph taken from a Scientology book to be honest!

But analytic reading of the above, I would say in retort that because that PARTICULAR situation might arise - the consequences might bring about a form of depression that is a reflection/result of the above.
...Which by the way, blows the OP's crap out of the water!

Kaneda_ wrote: »

This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

Well no schite Sherlock!

Kaneda_ wrote: »

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives.

"Calling Captain Obvious, calling Captain Obvious..."

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.

An opinion. One however backed up by fcuk all proof.

Kaneda_ wrote: »

We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming.

Captain Obvious is having his work cut out!

Kaneda_ wrote: »

But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

O' so you now admit this particular depression (which might be different!) is just based around regrets and NOTHING else?
Absolute bollocks, your attempting to say all reason why a woman who has given birth is only depressed for one reason - you haven't a clue about how many reasons why a woman might be depressed in that situation, not a fcuking clue! A total fcuked-up uneducated misrepresentation of a situation that I suspect the OP has never found themselves in - but hey, they found a text somewhere to espouse this crap!

Kaneda_ wrote: »

There is only DEPRESSION.

Again, absolute bollocks!

Kaneda_ wrote: »

No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.

* Here is catch-all "regret" schite again!
* Please point out the promotions that is espousing a "magical transcendent experience"... Links? Proof?

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that.

Well no schite - some things might be different? Thats a u-turn!

Kaneda_ wrote: »

For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

Even Captain Obvious is depressed now!

The above is only my own opinion based on real life contact, decades of experience, talking to the depressed and working with them through their problems. Being a sufferer of depression and working with depression organisations too.

pragmatic1 · 22-10-2011 5:37pm

opinion guy wrote: »

You got that wrong way around.

Sigmund Freud and psychoanalysis? At least in psychiatry theres an acknowledgement of the biological basis of mental illnesses. Psychology isnt a science in any way.

woodoo · 22-10-2011 5:38pm

stupidfishy wrote: »

Mr Kaneda, what you have just said...is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.

Exaggeration alert!

steddyeddy · 22-10-2011 5:40pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

Whatever the cause of post natal depression its still post natal depression. I mean some of the criteria involved in a diagnosis for post natal depression is depression following giving birth.

Post natal depression certainly is real anyway and I think its dangerous to suggest that people suffering from this illness are suffering as a result of a myth.

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 5:41pm

pragmatic1 wrote: »

psychiatry theres an acknowledgement of the biological basis of mental illnesses.

For which no reliable model has been constructed. I am genuinely not trying to rile people here, but there is currently no proven basis for the pill pushing biological model of depression. It's about as real as masturbation causing blindness. Not one shred of credible scientific proof for this theory. Gary Greenberg has a nice spin on it in his book "Manufacturing Depression". http://www.garygreenbergonline.com/

steddyeddy · 22-10-2011 5:45pm

Well if elation and pleasure are related to the chemistry of dopamine then it would makes sense to postulate that depression has a chemical foundation too.

pragmatic1 · 22-10-2011 5:46pm

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

For which no reliable model has been constructed. I am genuinely not trying to rile people here, but there is currently no proven basis for the pill pushing biological model of depression. It's about as real as masturbation causing blindness. Not one shred of credible scientific proof for this theory. Gary Greenberg has a nice spin on it in his book "Manufacturing Depression". http://www.garygreenbergonline.com/

There has actually. People who suffer from clinical depression usually produce low levels of serotonin. SSRI's can be used to successfully treat this.

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 5:51pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well if elation and pleasure are related to the chemistry of dopamine then it would makes sense to postulate that depression has a chemical foundation too.

Everything that happens inside in the brain is a chemical reaction. I am simply pointing out they don't have a solid idea of how the mind works at a neurological level. Make no mistake, the serotonin hypothesis was consigned to the dustbin years ago. The drug companies are taking people for a ride. Depression is not well understood. That isn't to say people don't suffer from it, but it's not understood well enough to be analysed and diagnosed in a lab like cancer and diabetes. Their understanding is severely limited at this point in time. This raises the question, would it be possible for the companies to "invent" diseases like the lead author of the DSM is suggesting? I think so.

Giselle · 22-10-2011 5:55pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

You display a stunning knowledge of the affect hormones have on the bodys chemistry and their effect on mood.

opinion guy · 22-10-2011 5:56pm

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Sigmund Freud and psychoanalysis? At least in psychiatry theres an acknowledgement of the biological basis of mental illnesses. Psychology isnt a science in any way.

AHAHAHA. You're kidding right ? Freud has been widely, widely discredited. CBT - about the only psych treatment with a solid evidence base behind it comes from psychology.

pragmatic1 wrote: »

There has actually. People who suffer from clinical depression usually produce low levels of serotonin. SSRI's can be used to successfully treat this.

This is a theory. An unproven one. And even if it was proven there is no evidence to say that low levels of serotonin causes depression, in fact it may well be that depression causes low levels of serotonin.

stovelid · 22-10-2011 5:56pm

My sister suffered terribly from it. I just rang her to tell her she was mistaken and it was due to her not wanting to be a mother. Even with a planned pregnancy.

She can't believe she didn't cop that before and asked me to convey her sincere thanks for blowing away the cobwebs of obfuscation and showing her the error of her ways.

Biggins · 22-10-2011 5:59pm

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

Everything that happens inside in the brain is a chemical reaction. I am simply pointing out they don't have a solid idea of how the mind works at a neurological level. Make no mistake, the serotonin hypothesis was consigned to the dustbin years ago. The drug companies are taking people for a ride. Depression is not well understood. That isn't to say people don't suffer from it, but it's not understood well enough to be analysed and diagnosed in a lab like cancer and diabetes. Their understanding is severely limited at this point in time.

...But their knowledge is ever improving.

There there is the realistic aspect that a life within a life, has been sucking/diverting many a much needed chemical/body nutrient/etc from its maternal parent while in pregnancy.
So all those taken fluids based upon said chemicals/nutrients and other material much needed from its only source, is going to have at time a detrimental effect to the parent, during and for some time after the actual child is born!

....That in time and reaction will and often does bring about side-effects that are unique, because of chemical imbalance that further creates a known categorised medical condition that is well witnessed and treated for.

Anyone that says all that is just a pure myth is a stupid idiot!

steddyeddy · 22-10-2011 6:06pm

Biggins wrote: »

...But their knowledge is ever improving.

There there is the realistic aspect that a life within a life, has been sucking/diverting many a much needed chemical from its maternal parent while in pregnancy.
So all those taken fluids based upon said chemicals/nutrients and other material much needed from its only source, is going to have at time a detrimental effect to the parent, during and for some time after the actual child is born!

....That in time and reaction will and often does bring about side-effects that are unique, because of chemical imbalance that further creates a known categorised medical condition that is well witnessed and treated for.

Anyone that says all that is just a pure myth is a stupid idiot!

Plus the fact people who are suffering from post partum depression must meet a set of criteria before they are diagnosed with it. People suffering from post partum depression have described the same set of symptoms again and again. Whatever the chemistry behind the mindset of a person suffering from post partum depression they are indeed suffering from a frequently observed set of symptoms.

Im not definate but as far as I know post natal depression is diagnosed by a major depressive episode with the specifier that it must happen within four weeks of delivery.

madmammy · 22-10-2011 6:07pm

really, postnatal depressions a myth, wish i had known
i was suffering with something i made up....thank you for showing me the errors in my thinking, now i just need a kick up the backside to get me out of this myth

unless you either have qualifications to back up your theory that somethings not true...i'll just conclude your a myth and therefore i'm going to ignore anything else you put up if thats fine with you.

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 6:09pm

Biggins wrote: »

...But their knowledge is ever improving.

There there is the realistic aspect that a life within a life, has been sucking/diverting many a much needed chemical from its maternal parent while in pregnancy.
So all those taken fluids based upon said chemicals/nutrients and other material much needed from its only source, is going to have at time a detrimental effect to the parent, during and for some time after the actual child is born!

....That in time and reaction will and often does bring about side-effects that are unique, because of chemical imbalance that further creates a known categorised medical condition that is well witnessed and treated for.

Anyone that says all that is just a pure myth is a stupid idiot!

There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain of depressed people. This has been proven Academically, so I will take these professionals word over mine. If you want the entire truth, read the following book, written by a neuroscientist. It will open your eyes to the reality of the situation. http://www.amazon.com/Blaming-Brain-Truth-Mental-Health/dp/0743237870/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1319306894&sr=1-1

Depression is not the result of a serotonin deficiency!!!

BBDBB · 22-10-2011 6:12pm

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Women are simply not allowed to admit to themselves or others that they are depressed about being mothers.Unlike decisions about career, where to live, who to marry, etc, this one cannot be undone. Some find it hard to cope with the changes it brings, feeling like the experience did not live up to expectations manufactured and promoted by society. This creates cognitive dissonance and eventually depression.

All people experience major distress, sadness, and anxiety at various points in their lives. Post-natal depression is no different than any other major form of depression.We feel it when we lose our jobs, have loved ones die, and when life becomes overwhelming. But this particular depression is fueled by a decision that a woman is not permitted to regret and cannot take back.It is done.Final.

There is only DEPRESSION. No need to create a special label that only exists because saying "I REGRET THIS DECISION!" is not acceptable in a society that promotes motherhood as some magical transcendent experience.Not the case for everyone and we need to acknowledge that. For some it is a cause of considerable pain, regret, and emotional turmoil.

I think you only missed the line "pull themselves together" and it would have been a perfect troll

Biggins · 22-10-2011 6:14pm

madmammy wrote: »

really, postnatal depressions a myth, wish i had known
i was suffering with something i made up....thank you for showing me the errors in my thinking, now i just need a kick up the backside to get me out of this myth

unless you either have qualifications to back up your theory that somethings not true...i'll just conclude your a myth and therefore i'm going to ignore anything else you put up if thats fine with you.

Thats my wife, just to be clear.

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain of depressed people. This has been proven Academically, so I will take these professionals word over mine. If you want the entire truth, read the following book, written by a neuroscientist. It will open your eyes to the reality of the situation. http://www.amazon.com/Blaming-Brain-Truth-Mental-Health/dp/0743237870/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1319306894&sr=1-1

Depression is not the result of a serotonin deficiancy!!!

As steadyeddy has right stated in my opinion:

...Whatever the chemistry behind the mindset of a person suffering from post partum depression they are indeed suffering from a frequently observed set of symptoms.

Of course we will get some trying to say that is all and only down to "serotonin deficiancy" - it holds as much total relevance as Kaneda's bollox that its all about "regret" too.

Absolute and utter uneducated bollox of an idea.

...And JUST to be further clear TheyKnowMyIP - I have lived with "the reality of the situation" - have you!

opinion guy · 22-10-2011 6:16pm

Kaneda_ if you are feeling depressed its probably all the heavy metals you are inhaling all day

Saila · 22-10-2011 6:17pm

its canada, C A N A D A.

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 6:18pm

Biggins wrote: »

course we will get some trying to say that is all and only down to "serotonin deficiancy" - it holds as much total relevance as Kaneda's bollox that its all about "regret" too.

Absolute and utter uneducated bollox of an idea.

What are the drugs prescribed for then? A laugh? Let me make myself clear, I suspect Mental Illness is a neurological problem, not some bull**** "chemical imbalance" for which absolutely no proof exists. I am not making this up!

"No Judge, I didn't murder that guy on purpose, it was mah brain chemicals!" - An excuse to absolve one from their responsibility.

DEPRESSION IS 100% REAL. IT IS NOT CAUSED BY A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE. IT IS MOSTLY THE RESULT OF LIVING IN A ****ED UP WORLD, AND POTENTIALLY HAVING A HIGHER THAN AVERAGE IQ. THE CAUSE IS UNKNOWN!

Biggins · 22-10-2011 6:23pm

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

What are the drugs prescribed for then?

To treat a PARTICULAR type of medical disorder. Doh!

Kaneda's crap that its further all based around just "regret" shows further how fcuking much of an utter uneducated and living in could coo-coo land they are.

Anyone that thanked that schite ought to be ashamed of themselves!

I also note Kaneda hasn't further returned to defend his utter schite and/or show ANY proof - what a surprise!

One more for the "ignore" button.

Giselle · 22-10-2011 6:25pm

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

What are the drugs prescribed for then? A laugh? Let me make myself clear, I suspect Mental Illness is a neurological problem, not some bull**** "chemical imbalance" for which absolutely no proof exists. I am not making this up!

"No Judge, I didn't murder that guy on purpose, it was mah brain chemicals!" - An excuse to absolve one from their responsibility.

DEPRESSION IS 100% REAL. IT IS NOT CAUSED BY A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE. IT IS MOSTLY THE RESULT OF LIVING IN A ****ED UP WORLD, AND POTENTIALLY HAVING A HIGHER THAN AVERAGE IQ. THE CAUSE IS UNKNOWN!

Have you suffered from depression? And you believe its because you have an especially high IQ?

Serious question.

Post-natal depression is a myth.

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