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Boards Premier Division Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,850 ✭✭✭Raoul


    I am probably one of the most active in the thread. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    The thing about trades is that
    a) people always think they drafted better than they actually did (myself included)
    b) some of the trades proposed are ridiculous

    I got the worst ever trade proposal just this week in this league


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,850 ✭✭✭Raoul


    What was it?

    I also think with trades that the person being offered the trade always thinks the other person is trying to get the upperhand instead of just trying to improve both teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    D3PO wrote: »
    dissapointing to come up against a team that didnt bother their hole to setup a team last week. Nice to win a game of course but really sucks the enjoyment out of it.

    Opponent left Brady, Pats defence and a WR (I cant remember who) in their team.

    I mean FFS you can set your teams up for byes weeks in advance. Theres no excuse at all.

    I thought that moving up to the Prem division would mean playing with 15 other guys who actually made an effort, but seems Im mistaken.


    My wife was in hospital and i completely forgot about it, logged in on mobile app on sunday and then realised it was too late to do anything. I obviously would have played eli manning, joique bell and brandon marshall and gladly beaten you if i hadn´t been a little preoccupied you twat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,850 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Trippie wrote: »
    My wife was in hospital and i completely forgot about it, logged in on mobile app on sunday and then realised it was too late to do anything. I obviously would have played eli manning, joique bell and brandon marshall and gladly beaten you if i hadn´t been a little preoccupied you twat

    That's better. A bit of banter. :):)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    Sorry lads, I've been busy at work so haven't been posting here despite keeping my team active in the league.

    With regard trades I threw out one there (could have been me that was referred to above!). People always see different value in different players so I think it's unfair to almost blast all trade attempts. If you don't like an offer that's what the "counter" button is for.

    On a slightly separate point I think the bench badly needs to change for next year. A 5-man bench in a 16-team league is way too many. It allows people to stack their bench and the people who start badly can find it too difficult to catch up. If we had a 3-man bench then it would force people to really engage more with the league, stay active to make sure you're getting the best for your team etc. I've been sitting with number 1 waiver priority for about 5 weeks but there is absolutely nobody to pick that I feel adds value to my team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,850 ✭✭✭Raoul


    f1dan wrote: »
    Sorry lads, I've been busy at work so haven't been posting here despite keeping my team active in the league.

    With regard trades I threw out one there (could have been me that was referred to above!). People always see different value in different players so I think it's unfair to almost blast all trade attempts. If you don't like an offer that's what the "counter" button is for.

    On a slightly separate point I think the bench badly needs to change for next year. A 5-man bench in a 16-team league is way too many. It allows people to stack their bench and the people who start badly can find it too difficult to catch up. If we had a 3-man bench then it would force people to really engage more with the league, stay active to make sure you're getting the best for your team etc. I've been sitting with number 1 waiver priority for about 5 weeks but there is absolutely nobody to pick that I feel adds value to my team.

    I have raised a similar point with the waiver wire. I got off to a bad start and as a result I found it very hard to get back into it. Whereas you got off to a great start and you could bide your time on the waiver and pick up the best players. Instead of me having to gamble on scraps


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    I suppose the proposal of giving weaker teams the priority on the waiver wire can be looked at this offseason if you bring it up with Spongey1975

    It's never been done like that in the boards league but it could be amended I guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭kev_s88


    This is the part of the season i really hate...things are really starting to heat up in fantasy land and the business end is upon us. Only problem is it makes me realise that we only have football for another 10 weeks or so and then its back to the miserable offseason :(

    At least i dont have to worry about my Jags making a playoff push haha :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    I roll with a 4 man bench in another 16 man league and it has helped tremendously with competition on the waiver wire. Stops people hoarding players also.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    I suppose the proposal of giving weaker teams the priority on the waiver wire can be looked at this offseason if you bring it up with Spongey1975

    It's never been done like that in the boards league but it could be amended I guess

    It will have to be voted on by all members like any change to the leagues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    TO. wrote: »
    Most are active up until today and then there is a few they were active last week but not recently. Honestly I keep an eye on it and guys are active.

    As for teams not changing guys. Sounds daft but I rolled with 3 bye week players in one of my other leagues as I had no replacement due to the waiver and FA being ****. Made sense to hang on to the guys I had.

    There could be a plausible reason as to why he did it. He last logged in Nov 2nd which was 2 Sundays ago. But one thing to consider the game in London could be a reason not to log in or he was just away or busy. I wont get concerned yet until guys go inactive for a longer period per rules.

    Come on dont you think I weighed that up ? I know one of the guys left an IA RB in but he had no other RB option I can understand that as a tactical decision.

    This guy didnt make a tactical decision.

    played Brady - had Eli on the bench
    played Pats D - Had Brian Quick whos on IR on his bench could have taken another D easily
    Played a WR (Cant recall who) Had Brandon Marshall on the bench.

    Id question how active somebody who still has a guy whos been on IR for 3 weeks in his squad is ......

    Regardless of which its still a pain in the hole. Theres no excuse for it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    Trippie wrote: »
    My wife was in hospital and i completely forgot about it, logged in on mobile app on sunday and then realised it was too late to do anything. I obviously would have played eli manning, joique bell and brandon marshall and gladly beaten you if i hadn´t been a little preoccupied you twat

    Firslty sorry to hear about your wife I hope all is ok.

    Now back on topic.

    Too late to do anything ... Marshall played the late game beginining at 1.30am why didnt you put him in when you logged in :rolleyes:
    Bears D was also available to bring in on FA to plug in .... (not that it would have helped but the point is clear)

    Brain quick on IR for over 2 weeks yes still in your squad. Whats your excuse for that ....

    Oh and bye week changes can be made form the day of the draft you dont have to wait till the week of the game. No harm actually making primary changes that you can tweak down the line just incase you cant make the changes due to real life on that week in question.

    Like I said there is zero excuse for playing bye week guys unless its a very very rare tactical decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    D3PO wrote: »
    Come on dont you think I weighed that up ? I know one of the guys left an IA RB in but he had no other RB option I can understand that as a tactical decision.

    This guy didnt make a tactical decision.

    played Brady - had Eli on the bench
    played Pats D - Had Brian Quick whos on IR on his bench could have taken another D easily
    Played a WR (Cant recall who) Had Brandon Marshall on the bench.

    Id question how active somebody who still has a guy whos been on IR for 3 weeks in his squad is ......

    Regardless of which its still a pain in the hole. Theres no excuse for it at all.

    Why are you getting so defensive? I was pointing out how competitive the league is and its usually solid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I think the bench is too small lads, never mind too big. Half of my team is from waivers and I'm competitive enough. I think I'd be even better if I didn't have to release players when 6 teams are on a bye :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    Dodge wrote: »
    I think the bench is too small lads, never mind too big. Half of my team is from waivers and I'm competitive enough. I think I'd be even better if I didn't have to release players when 6 teams are on a bye :)

    You would be better but there would be a lot of teams who could probably use the guys that you would be stashing on the bench and that's my point. With such a big league I think those extra 16 guys (if we went from a 5 to a 4 man bench) would make a big difference.

    With regards to your bye week strategy I've seen people deliberately draft players that all have the same bye week and effectively commit to writing off one week of the season.

    Notwithstanding all this I had a terrible week. 49 points and that included 28 points from Le'Veon Bell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Spongey1975


    Two weeks to go and playoff picture is clearer but still 9 teams can grab the 6 spots.

    Clearest division is the West where the Porto Jags (8-3) have the division wrapped up. All he has to compete for is a first round bye.

    The tightest race is in the South & East where 5 teams are competing for the 2 division titles & 2 wildcard spots. Slinger Owls (8-3), Dublin Blades (7-4) & Spawn of Spongey (7-4) in the South and Better than the Lions (8-3) & Inchicore Warriors (7-4) in the East. Current tiebreakers have Spawn of Spongey :mad: losing out.

    In the North it looks like only the division winner will get into the playoffs. Bye Week (6-5) are leading the way but Lucan Liverbirds (5-6) & Oh look an Eagle (5-6) are in hot pursuit.

    Whilst "technically" any team at 5-6 are in contention for a wildcard slot it would involve them winning both their final games and two of the three 7-4 teams losing both their final games. Then it would come down to tiebreak and thats just too much headwrecking to sort that out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    f1dan wrote: »
    You would be better but there would be a lot of teams who could probably use the guys that you would be stashing on the bench and that's my point.

    Sod them. They'd have the same opportunities as me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Had a quick look at the games ahead.

    My team (Inchicore Warriors) is the only one of the WC contenders to face 2 teams with winning records (Porto Jags in 12, Bye Week in 13)

    In the South, Slinger Owls Lomira Lions play Dublin Blades in week 13. It probably means that if Spawn of Spongey wins out, he'll make it in. It also means that it's highly unlikely any of the 5-6 teams will get one of those wildcards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    This has to be the most competitive year for the Prem? I don't remember this many teams being so close come the last 2 regular season games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    TO. wrote: »
    This has to be the most competitive year for the Prem? I don't remember this many teams being so close come the last 2 regular season games.

    Definitely the closest season. Good to see even the lads fighting relegation making moves too. We've always had a very competitive league but this year has been really enjoyable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Dodge wrote: »
    Good to see even the lads fighting relegation making moves too. We've always had a very competitive league but this year has been really enjoyable

    I'm going down for sure but I don't want to finish last dammit!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    Lads just in case you notice I temporarily changed the trade deadline in our league instead of another one. Lasted 3 mins until I relised I was in wrong league settings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    well didn't bother watching MNF as I assumed I had my win well and truly locked up.

    Forsett has a career day and 31 points meaning I only scraped a W by .4 of a point !!

    With Inchicores loss though and assuming I don't get screwed by a stat correction for the second time this season Ive official locked in a playoff birth by virtue of head to head.

    So I have the luxury of going into week 13 knowing a win V Slingers and I win the division on head to head but a loss still has me in the playoffs.

    I will post the full playoff scenario later, its pretty much locked in bar the seeding's. Only 1 playoff spot still up for grabs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Had my best ever week with 98 points

    Still lost

    Wooden spoon beckons :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    Playoff situation as it stands

    In

    Bye Week 7-5

    North division won and #4 seed locked in. 1 game clear of Oh Look an Eagle but a week 1 head to head win means they cannot be overtaken, and as they are 2 games back of all other division leaders they cannot improve their seeding)

    Slinger Owls Lomira 9-3

    South division title on the line next week as they face Dublin Blades in a winner takes division clash. The 1 game lead they hold is of little consequence as a loss will mean they lose the division on head to head. The seeding position is too complex to go into given how close things are. Essentially Slingers could still finish as #1,2,3 or 5 seeds depending on results of theirs, porto jags & better than the lions results.

    Dublin Blades 8-4

    Assuming no stat correction robbing them of a victory this week (as has already happened to them once this season) Dublin Blades are in the playoffs and face off in week 13 versus Slinger Owls Lomira with the winner taking the South Division. The reason they are in is that they defeated Inchicore Warriors earlier this year and have not faces Spawn of Spongey in the regular season, the only 2 other teams brought into play in a wildcard discussion should they lose.

    The different seeding scenarios are too vast but the wildcard scenarios are listed as they are probably the most relevant

    A loss, a Spawn of Spongey win and an Inchicore Warriors loss would place them as the #6 seed

    A loss, a Spawn of Spongey loss and an Inchicore warriors win would place them as #5 seed on head to head to head

    A loss, a Spawn of Spongey loss and an Inchicore Warriors loss would likely place them as #6 seed (although #5 seed is technically possible in this scenario). It would come down to points scored for which Spawn of Spongey holds an almost unassailable advantage.


    Better than the Lions 9-3

    Better than the Lions have locked up the East division and with it are assured of seeds 1,2 or 3 depending on Week 13 results.


    Porto Jags 9-3

    See Better than the Lions comments

    West is locked up and with it are assured of seeds 1,2 or 3 depending on Week 13 results.

    In the Hunt


    Spawn of Spongey 8-4

    Spawn of Spongey cannot win the South division by virtue of the weakest tie breaker situation of the 3 teams in contention. So its wildcard or bust for them. They have a crucial head to head loss against Inchicore warriors earlier this year which gives them little room for error in week 13.

    As mentioned above they can only finish as the #5 or #6 seed depending on results, but the most important fact is this. Win and your in.

    Inchicore Warriors 7-5

    Currently on the bubble Inchicore Warriors need some help in Week 13 if they are to stay alive for the championship. They can only get the #6 seed and that requires results to go their way the first of which is they MUST win.

    To stay alive its as simple as this

    Inchicore Warriors win & Spawn of Spongey must lose that will get them the #6 seed on head to head tie breaker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    Incidentally a review of the point scoring shows which teams have been having a "lucky" and "unlucky" season

    Lucan Liverbirds, Team Dan & Oh Look an Eagle can all consider themselves pretty unlucky to be out of the hunt based on their season scoring. Spawn of Spongey would be really unlucky to lose out to Inchicore Warriors based on the season to date and Dublin Blades have clearly ridden their luck to secure a playoff birth.

    That said is possible that the top 6 in scoring all make the 6 playoff spots, which would be quite unusual.

    Slinger Owls Lomira 1150.70 IN
    Spawn of Spongey 1121.98 IN THE HUNT
    Better than the Lions 1121.36 IN
    Porto Jags 1094.94 IN
    Bye Week 1088.00 IN
    Lucan Liverbirds 1066.52 OUT
    Team Dan 1059.98 OUT
    Oh look an Eagle 1049.02 OUT
    Dublin Blades 1028.76 IN
    Inchicore Warriors 988.12 IN THE HUNT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Had a poxy week in all my leagues this week (bar the only one for money funnily enough).

    Myself and Spongey both have tough match ups next week so could be a tight one but I reckon he'll be OK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    yeah Cork are better than their record shows. Nothing is guaranteed in this game but they are the bookies favs alright.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    D3PO wrote: »
    Playoff situation as it stands

    In


    Slinger Owls Lomira 9-3

    South division title on the line next week as they face Dublin Blades in a winner takes division clash. The 1 game lead they hold is of little consequence as a loss will mean they lose the division on head to head. The seeding position is too complex to go into given how close things are. Essentially Slingers could still finish as #1,2,3 or 5 seeds depending on results of theirs, porto jags & better than the lions results.

    For me its simple. Win and I take seed 1-3 lose and I have locked up the 4th seed.

    The only 2 teams who can catch me in the hunt are you and Spawn of Spongey. If you beat me you hold the tie breaker so that puts you 1-3 and even if I lose and Spawn wins that leaves me in 4th seed as I hold the tie breaker on him. Either way I am in the playoffs and in the wildcard round.

    For me to get the bye I would need to win and 1 or both of Porto Jags and Better than the lions to lose. Porto Jags holds the tie breaker over me after beating me and I never played better than the lions so I have no idea how that works. If all 3 of us win out they both get bye and I am in wildcard round either way.

    To sum up if I am right the lowest I will seed is 4 win or lose.

    Edit: ignore me lack of sleep and too many league and too many hours in work have me seeing 3 divisions not 4.


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