The WIP Fantasy Charter Discussion Thread

Black Swan

Hi American Football Players,
Our request for the creation of a Fantasy Football sub-forum has been approved and is now under construction.

Many of you will remember when our AF forum lacked a charter, and we all got together and constructed one. Now we need to construct a charter for our new FANTASY FOOTBALL sub-forum.

So give it some thought, and make suggestions for that new charter here on this thread. As before, I will combine your suggestions into a charter draft, then submit it to our mods, Cmods, and Administrator Khannie for their review and approval.

So please start posting your FANTASY FOOTBALL charter suggestions on this thread now.

tallaghtoutlaws

Few ideas off the top of the head

- The Boards Fantasy football has a structured Division Format from Premier down to Division 5 right now but is open to more. Each division has a promotion and relegation format.

- Activity is key both on the forum and in your league throughout the NFL season. It only takes 5 mins to throw up a post or log in to the league and fix your team

- The Fantasy season will start from setting it up in July to the end of the NFL's regular season.

- Please keep specific division talk to the thread designated to the division

- Have Fun

Also Black Swan I will also copy and paste the required league format for all leagues so that they are all using the same format to keep it as fair for everyone. On me iphone right now thoug. If someone else can throw them up that would be sweet.

SSK

It may be difficult to set specfic dates but even soemthing along the lines of all players have to register their interest in entering one of the Boards leagues by a certain date otherwise they can't be guaranteed a spot.

I know TO and some of the league organisers (all of whom did a great job) copped some unfair stick from people who were late in entering and got bumped down the leagues as a result.

Otherwise I'm pretty new to the whole FF thing so I'll leave it up to the vets to come up with some more issues

tallaghtoutlaws

SSK wrote: »

It may be difficult to set specfic dates but even soemthing along the lines of all players have to register their interest in entering one of the Boards leagues by a certain date otherwise they can't be guaranteed a spot.

I know TO and some of the league organisers (all of whom did a great job) copped some unfair stick from people who were late in entering and got bumped down the leagues as a result.

Otherwise I'm pretty new to the whole FF thing so I'll leave it up to the vets to come up with some more issues

The thing is if you set dates now it gives guys the best of 12 months to know that hey I must register my interest in fantasy football and make sure I get in on the act ahead of time. Especially if they are already now in one of the divisions. I honestly see it as a common courtesy to other members. The way I see it if you commit to something stick to it and don't let others down ye know.

But now we have the main divisions setup it means we can set proper dates this time round and we also know the NFL season is going ahead

Dodge

I'd break up the charter into 3 parts

1) Slimed down general boards.ie rules – perhaps from the existing American football forum (ie be civil, don’t be a thick etc)
2) Fantasy Football forum specific rules
3) Guide to the official boards.ie FF league structures

I’d add the following into Fantasy Football forum specific rules


1) Keep specific week to week queries/requests for advice to official weekly threads (eg if you want to ask the forum "Who should I start in week 2? Colt McCoy away to Indy or Chad Henne at home to Houston? Put it in the Week 2 thread)
2) Each boards.ie league will have its won thread
3) All other queries, such as draft strategy, player news, queries for keeper or dynasty leagues etc can be posted at any time

I’d add the following into FF league structures


1) At the start of July each year, a moderator (preferably one of the people running the league) will start a thread on how the boards.ie leagues will be structured. If you haven’t been part of a league before you can post in this league and mods will try an accommodate you within the existing structures, or if demand exists, a new 6th division will be created
2) The following are the mods/admins for each league;
(and fill that list)
3) Each league has the following rules; (and expand that)
4) Players who are not active will be excluded from future seasons

Oh and as the 2009 Premier Division champion I think a list of winners since we start doing the full leagues would be a nice touch too

Spongey1975

As regards the general rules for the running of the boards.ie leagues it would be good to get these set to avoid any issues/complaints in the off season. While we have the league settings decided and in operation (for the most part) there has to be general rules put in place.

I'm all for setting a deadline for exisiting members to confirm their interest in participating the following season. I would say end of june, at least then it gives time to reconfigure the leagues accordingly. Any interest after this date would be added to the bottom of the lists.

We would also need to set in place penalties for inactivity and also what defines inactivity. We will see every year teams with players playing on their bye weeks and that is frustrating.

GoldFour4

I would suggest that at the end of each fantasy season there should be a thread created, stickied and locked. In this thread there would be a date for registration of interest for next season would open. This would get rid of the I didnt know we started so soon users who get thrown out of leagues. A new thread would then be opened on new registration date. New users can lodge their interest at this time. I think everyone should have to post in the registration thread instead of just sending a pm to a friend. I had heartache trying to hunt down users who had merely sent a pm to prove they were back in.

Also it should be made very clear in the charter that we dont tolerate inactivity and that there are harsh penaltys in our leagues.

Benimar

In light of some problems this season I would like to see League GMs have to be re-elected by the other players rather than just continue ad infinitum. (Maybe this happens anyway, and apologies if it does).

I have full respect for anyone who volunteers to GM a league, it's a thankless task, but some people are cut out for it, others aren't.

Apart from that I'd just echo what others have been saying. Have a strict cut-off date for entry, decide the divisions at that time and anyone who misses the deadline is 'relegated' to the lowest division.

I'd also like to see all drafts held around the same time. I know we have to allow some flexibility, but I thought the Division 5 draft was too early as there was a lot of uncertainty about certain players that would have been removed if the draft was a week later (Manning being a case in point).

Johnny_Fontane

A sticky for league settings is a must. A clear screenshot of how they should look on NFL.com I think would suffice.

As a newbie and gm of division 5, I made some mistakes setting it up, and have taken some serious flack. I have held my hand up but this is not enough for some people and that's disappointing. But trust me these minor mistakes won't be made again.

Regarding the draft date the only real way to avoid People getting upset is to set the date six monthsin advance. People will know the date and there can never be any problems

Peyton Manning

A few wee suggestions, less to do with forum rules (which I imagine is straight forward enough) and more to do with FF etiquette.

Activity - we really have to emphasise how important this is, especially to people who are new to the game. This fantasy football is nothing like Premier League FF where you can pick any player you want, and any team can have the same players. This is a thought-out process, in most cases well researched by the team's manager, culminating in an hour and a half long live draft where - like it or not - the players you end up with are YOUR players and nobody elses. Their team represents their personal opinions on not just the NFL, but the whole sport in general. The impact inactivity has on the whole league is huge - again, this isn't Premier League FF where it's simply a case of who can accumulate the most points over a season in leagues with hundreds, even thousands of participants. There is at most 16 players in our leagues, with head to head matches where your only objective is to outscore your opponent on any given week - obviously inactivity will make this a walk in the park for your opponent and will upset the rest of the league. Please, please have a think before signing up - all that is asked is that you put aside 10 minutes once a week to give your team the best shot of winning, and keeping the league on a level playing field.

Draft Dates - Drafts should take place in the week between the final preseason game and the Thursday night opener of the regular season. This gives us a window of around 6 days - it's going to be the same time every year, the first week of September. Now that we have a subforum, we can afford to have an individual thread for each league with a poll on the most suitable of these 6 days or so. Importantly, when these polls are created, they should allow multiple choice answers for those who can make any of the proposed dates. Drafts are a lot of fun, and much more exciting when there is a maximum number of participants. If you can't make the draft itself, then prerank your picks. It only takes a half hour, and will save you the hassle of digging through waiver wire scraps because the computer autopicked a kicker for your in Round 6.

Regarding actual forum rules, we should have a disclaimer that if anyone sets out to deliberately spoil a league, then they are banned from the AF forum as a whole. Inactivity wouldn't count as deliberate spoiling, but ruining a draft with obviously ridiculous picks, or making deliberately poor waiver moves/trades should be punished with a permaban.

Inactivity shouldn't be punished on the forum, but given the circumstances, those who are inactive should move to the back of the queue for all divisions for the following year.

Hanners

There were NFL drafts done by ESPN pundits online and posted the week before the Division 5 draft so I dont see any problem with the timing. Fantasy to a point is all about calculated risk/reward, I suspect the Colts fans knew about as much as the general public about Peytons potential season availability hours before KO so that arguement is a non starter.

I joined this league for a bit of craic picking teams each week to see how I faired against others, all this GM bashing is both tiresom and futile if people didnt spend the time to look through the settings but chose instead to sit back and assume others will do all the work and then find the problems later a league is everyones responsibility

Dodge

Yeah, the draft date doesn't matter as long as the members of the league are OK with it. Everyone is playing with the same data. I missed mine and the autodraft selected David Garrard. He'd have been picked up by someone. Hours later he's cut. Nothing we can do about injuries, players being cut etc

Benimar

Tom_Brady wrote: »

Draft Dates - Drafts should take place in the week between the final preseason game and the Thursday night opener of the regular season. This gives us a window of around 6 days - it's going to be the same time every year, the first week of September. Now that we have a subforum, we can afford to have an individual thread for each league with a poll on the most suitable of these 6 days or so. Importantly, when these polls are created, they should allow multiple choice answers for those who can make any of the proposed dates. Drafts are a lot of fun, and much more exciting when there is a maximum number of participants. If you can't make the draft itself, then prerank your picks. It only takes a half hour, and will save you the hassle of digging through waiver wire scraps because the computer autopicked a kicker for your in Round 6.

Agree 100%, especially the bit in bold.

Hanners wrote: »

There were NFL drafts done by ESPN pundits online and posted the week before the Division 5 draft so I dont see any problem with the timing. Fantasy to a point is all about calculated risk/reward, I suspect the Colts fans knew about as much as the general public about Peytons potential season availability hours before KO so that arguement is a non starter.

I'm sorry, but once Manning stopped practicing on the monday it put serious doubt about his availability, far more than had been there prior to then. Anyway, its only an example of how things can change rapidly, so why the rush to draft? There was no need for it.

Also the ESPN pundit thing is a crock. They are posting up their picks on a particular day. If you look on twitter, they all did their 'real' drafts a couple of days before kick off.

Dodge

Benimar wrote: »

I'm sorry, but once Manning stopped practicing on the monday it put serious doubt about his availability, far more than had been there prior to then. Anyway, its only an example of how things can change rapidly, so why the rush to draft? There was no need for it

By that rationale, there's no need to draft so soon to the kick off date either. Everyone has the same date so its up to you to make the decision on whether you'd like to gamble on an injured player or not. You're not competing with other leagues.

darklighter

My two cents:

• Draft should be between final pre-season game and opening night
• July 1st deadline to say whether your in or not for the coming season
• Inactivity you get demoted to the bottom league the following year (as pointed out by others, it only takes 5 or 10 minutes a week to be involved)
• Sticky with league settings to avoid any possible confusion going forward
• Sticky with standard boards etiquette etc
• Sticky with the history of who's won what when (we all love seeing our names in lights )

Benimar

Dodge wrote: »

By that rationale, there's no need to draft so soon to the kick off date either. Everyone has the same date so its up to you to make the decision on whether you'd like to gamble on an injured player or not. You're not competing with other leagues.

I agree there is no need, but I thought we were looking for suggestions here? My suggestion is that all Divisions should draft around the same time, and in the week after the final pre-season game. Toms comments above are in line with what I'm suggesting.

Johnny_Fontane

Benimar wrote: »

I agree there is no need, but I thought we were looking for suggestions here? My suggestion is that all Divisions should draft around the same time, and in the week after the final pre-season game. Toms comments above are in line with what I'm suggesting.

it was just not that simple mate....I wanted to do it midweek but a couple of people came back and they couldnt make it....sunday night was best. I couldnt make sunday 4th, so that was out. Being GM does have its perks amongst all the abuse you take from a bunch of goons.....

Benimar

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

it was just not that simple mate....I wanted to do it midweek but a couple of people came back and they couldnt make it....sunday night was best. I couldnt make sunday 4th, so that was out. Being GM does have its perks amongst all the abuse you take from a bunch of goons.....

I suppose I should go easy on you, after all it was one of your mistakes that cost Molly Cadillac Williams and put him on my team

Spongey1975

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

it was just not that simple mate....I wanted to do it midweek but a couple of people came back and they couldnt make it....sunday night was best. I couldnt make sunday 4th, so that was out. Being GM does have its perks amongst all the abuse you take from a bunch of goons.....

abuse is a bit much, you have taken criticism for mistakes you made (deservedly so). I would hope we can all move past this and enjoy the season.

Just cos you're a GM doesnt mean you can discount a certain evening to draft because you cant make it. Whatever the most convenient evening for the majority of the league is the evening you choose and if you cant make that evening then so be it

GoldFour4

You shouldn't have called off the draft just beacause you couldn't make it. As GM its your responsibility to do what's best for the league as a whole, not just yourself. Tuesday the 6th was the most popular date for division 2. I set this as the draft date even though I knew I wouldn't have internet access at the time. It should be majority rules when it comes to these things IMO

Johnny_Fontane

lads relax, that was a joke.....ffs....

the league was filled in mid august and the date of 29th was agreed by all parties bar one, who said he couldnt make it. He resigned from the league.

Johnny_Fontane

Spongey1975 wrote: »

abuse is a bit much, you have taken criticism for mistakes you made (deservedly so). I would hope we can all move past this and enjoy the season.

Just cos you're a GM doesnt mean you can discount a certain evening to draft because you cant make it. Whatever the most convenient evening for the majority of the league is the evening you choose and if you cant make that evening then so be it

have you seen my pms?

Hanners

Lads theres more hurlers on the ditch in D5 than a Ballyhales match. We all should have checked the settings, its all our league and lack of awareness during the draft of the number of positions to be filled and now the settings should have been delt with either before the deaft or in the 10 days before the league started not now days before weeks 2

darklighter

Hanners wrote: »

Lads theres more hurlers on the ditch in D5 than a Ballyhales match. We all should have checked the settings, its all our league and lack of awareness during the draft of the number of positions to be filled and now the settings should have been delt with either before the deaft or in the 10 days before the league started not now days before weeks 2

Very true :mad:

I do hold myself responsible as much as the GM is, because i have learned to my cost previously:

"Assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups" (Prize for whoever names the movie - without using google)*

Whats done is done, we move on.

*Note - there is no prize

Spongey1975

darklighter wrote: »

Very true :mad:

I do hold myself responsible as much as the GM is, because i have learned to my cost previously:

"Assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups" (Prize for whoever names the movie - without using google)*

Whats done is done, we move on.

*Note - there is no prize

Bad guy on the train in under siege 2:D (talk about way off topic)

adrian522

Is it not also in Lock Stock..?

From next year could we implement a system whereby people would use their boards username as their team name on NFL.com or at least maintain a thread where people can see what boardsie they are playing against ?

Peyton Manning

adrian522 wrote: »

Is it not also in Lock Stock..?

From next year could we implement a system whereby people would use their boards username as their team name on NFL.com or at least maintain a thread where people can see what boardsie they are playing against ?

I'd say the idea in most peoples heads is that each league will have it's own thread with all this information in the OP.

tallaghtoutlaws

The defined rules:



When it comes to scoring it is the NFL.com Fantasy default scoring.

Raoul

Tom_Brady wrote: »

I'd say the idea in most peoples heads is that each league will have it's own thread with all this information in the OP.

Yeah this needs to be done, should be up to the commish in each league to pm everyone to get back to him with their team name. Do up a simple excel sheet with a list of everyones team and their username beside them and stick it in the op.

poldebruin

Fantastic that FF will be getting it's own sub-forum, well done to all who campaigned for it.

A couple of points (which we experienced first hand in Division 2 last year) I would like considered for the rules charter going forward would be:

* The option of the league voting on trades. For the most part I see trades come and go and there is no problem, but there have been some real head-scratchers. It would also mean we could stop any abuse of the system.

* Consensus on what to do when a team is abandoned mid-season. Does the GM take over and put what he considers the strongest team out for the remainder? Swapping out bye week and injured players but staying away from the waiver wire and transfers?

* Lastly (and I know this seems a bit miserable and paranoid - but again, we did experience it) what happens when a player dumps his team of starters back into the waiver pool - last year the GM/league of Div2 voted that nobody would try to acquire the players, they were put back into the team and the manager in question was locked out of his team for the remainder of the season.

All a bit specific,I know, but if we're going to lay out the rules and sticky them, why not try to cover all bases?

Black Swan

poldebruin wrote: »

All a bit specific,I know, but if we're going to lay out the rules and sticky them, why not try to cover all bases?

Specifics are exactly what we need from all our members before drafting this charter and guidelines, and opening the FANTASY FOOTBALL forum. So please everyone be specific. Make attempts to write all or parts of this charter, then we can all review and comment.

Spongey1975

poldebruin wrote: »

Fantastic that FF will be getting it's own sub-forum, well done to all who campaigned for it.

A couple of points (which we experienced first hand in Division 2 last year) I would like considered for the rules charter going forward would be:

* The option of the league voting on trades. For the most part I see trades come and go and there is no problem, but there have been some real head-scratchers. It would also mean we could stop any abuse of the system.

* Consensus on what to do when a team is abandoned mid-season. Does the GM take over and put what he considers the strongest team out for the remainder? Swapping out bye week and injured players but staying away from the waiver wire and transfers?

* Lastly (and I know this seems a bit miserable and paranoid - but again, we did experience it) what happens when a player dumps his team of starters back into the waiver pool - last year the GM/league of Div2 voted that nobody would try to acquire the players, they were put back into the team and the manager in question was locked out of his team for the remainder of the season.

All a bit specific,I know, but if we're going to lay out the rules and sticky them, why not try to cover all bases?

This is where the GM comes into play, first off i think trades are voted on before they are approved, there is options to change settings as to how trades are approved but i think members can vote them down if necessary

The second two points are very valid and very important. If a team is abandoned then i would like to think that the GM would take it over and primarily ensure that a proper team is put out. I fully believe that all GMs (who should be selected by the relevant members of each division) would put the strongest team forward no matter who they were against. As for the placing of players on waiver wire, i know what happened last year and whilst it was frustrating, i believe it is extreme in that i cant see it happening at all amongst genuine players. However in this scenario i woul like to see the team pass over to the GM to operate for the rest of the season.

This all leaves the selection of the GM for each division as a very important undertaking and clear rules to be in place for next season. GMs should have the best interest of the league in their minds as opposed to their own teams (speaking as a GM of Div 1 )

davetherave

I'm probably just repeating what has already been said but I guess another voice can't hurt.

Aside from the general "Don't be a d!ck" and "Play nice" rules from the AF/Sitewide charters.

Preseason:
1) A "Declare your interest" thread named something along the lines of "**SIGNUP HERE BEFORE 31/JULY/2012*** with plenty of capitals and exclamation marks. Returning users are just reactivating themselves, for want of a better word, and new users are placed in the next available division. Possibly also show the list of users per division with the promotions/relegations?
2) A screenshot or a listing/guide of the standard league rules that are to be adhered to in each league.
3) I agree with the general consensus that the draft should be some time between the end of the 4th pre-season and the Thursday Night Opener


Regular Season
1) Each division will/should/could have it's own thread for the internal stuff.
2) There should be a "week X" thread for advice/selections/matchups etc. This is to be used by all divisions. There will be two thread per week. (NFL-Week 3) (NCAA-Week
3)

Post Season:
1) Update the list of Winners thread
2) Return the the pre-season section and repeat as necessary.


Regarding GM's, I think the fairest way to decide is a vote by the people participating in the league. Maybe only vote for people that nominate themselves though.

If a person abandons their team then the GM just takes over and uses their subs bench for bye weeks, no trades/free agents allowed. That way then the people that still have to play him don't get "easy points" as opposed to the people who have already played him proper. That person goes to the back of the signup queue next season.

Inactivity is a tough one. The way I see it there are three scenarios:
1. Inactive on the forums, active on league. Someone could be inactive on the forum, but if they at least sub out a player on his bye week or pick up a free agent or do something to show that he/she is active then I don't think that there is anything you can or need to do.
2. Active on the forums, inactive on the league. If someone hasn't logged on since the draft (if even), but they are seen posting either on the AF board, or elsewhere then maybe just send them a PM asking if they are still interested/playing or if the GM can take over??
3. Person disappears off the face of the earth. Come to the conclusion that they have been abducted by aliens and the GM takes over? (after a vote?)

johnmcdnl

Just a simple point - if the GM was to take over a team well who's the strongest team to send out???

I'm assuming just go by the NFL projections and stick with that so the GM isn't able to really have much of an input but just makes sure some lad on IR or on a Bye week isn't starting....

means the GM doesn't have to invest any time bar putting the players on the field for the game... also prevents any claims that made me made about a game as to why X player started ahead of Y player in such a game but it was the other way around in some other game... straight forward call for the GM and can be a standard call for all divisions...

also - if a team has a say a QB playing Monday but has a backup playing Sunday if the Monday QB is questionable or worse the backup should be made start to prevent the possibility of a non starter which could easily swing a game especially if it's a major position like RB or QB...

just 2 rules there just to make try to make sure there's a standard procedure for the GM to follow in the event of a team being left inactive mid season...


also there's hardly a way to boot a team from a league at the end of the season to prevent the possibility of an inactive team from making the playoffs... just seems kinda unfair that some player that played hard all season but missed out in the end had a place in the playoffs taken because of an inactive team that just happened to get lucky with injuries and the likes all season... if it can't be done fair enough - but I really just hope that any inactive teams would end up loosing before the end of the season but naturally it's not going to happen every time...

and naturally enough the given player would be dropped to the lowest possible division for the next season and would need to give some assurances that they will be active for the next season...

I know there are exceptions where some people may have had a genuine reason and perhaps in these cases some form of vote could take place between either the remaining members of the division or by the GMs amongst themselves... preferably by the GM's because other players in the division may have bitter feelings after a 0.2 point loss or simply because they became inactive straight after they had played them etc etc... the standard rule should be that you get relegated to the bottom but in very certain circumstances the GM's and other members may think it was enough of a reason to give them another shot... I'm just thinking here about perhaps someone in the military getting called up for a few weeks service with very short notice... who knows but it would need to be a damn good excuse but I'm sure their is the possibility of it happening - just perhaps needs to be taken into account - either that or a standard rule that means regardless of who you are you accept that if you are inactive for a set length of time you get relegated the next week...

perhaps 2-3 weeks inactivity would be enough before the rules and take over of the team would happen... but once again the rules need to be set before hand... perhaps 2 game weeks of inactivity and if they remain inactive by the Saturday evening or Sunday midnight Irish time the GM should take the team over to prevent a 3rd week of inactivity

this could even be knocked down to 1 week inactivity where the GM can jump in and replace any players in the 2nd week who are on Bye Weeks or on IR if necceasry but leave all other players untouched for the week but come week 3 the GM assumes complete control of the team... (this assuming a GM can make changes but still allowing the original owner to take over)

anyways - that's what I'd like to see but if there's a problem with it please point it out and why it wouldn't work so we can change it

just trying to make a standard set of rules is all so there can be no giving out about why someones team was taken over right before I had to play the inactive guy but the last guy had a game against a team of injured and benched players... just to avoid any possibility of arguments the rules for when to take over need to be set in stone

poldebruin

...this is getting as complicated as defining what a catch is in the NFL!!
Has to be done though.

D3PO

My 2 cents most of which has already been mentioned

• Charter should include the generic boards stuff. Place nice, no spam, and so on so forth.

• The charter should spell out the rules we go by in boards fantasy football.

• The charter should define how a GM is selected. I would suggest that this would be defined as current GM stays on unless a league member proposes his removal and that is carried by at least 3 other league members. Upon which time any body interested in taking over would put their hat in the ring and a vote would take place between the 16 league members to select the new GM from the candidates that put themselves forward

• The charter should define the exact setting that must be applied in the boards fantasy football leagues

• League specific rules should be clearly mentioned in the charter

• There needs definition of inactivity. And the consequences of a member being inactive. Inactive for 1 season relegated to bottom division. Inactive for two straight seasons banned from entering into the boards fantasy football league structure.

• Promotion / Relegation. The rules on this need to be clearly defined in the charter. (My view on it is below)

The number of teams that are promoted and relegated each season should be advised in the charter. (I think its 4 up 4 down)

The 4 teams promoted are those that make the semi of the playoffs.
If one of these wont be active the following season then the side that finished 5th (by virtue of having a higher points score in the first round of the playoffs should go up as we have 6 team playoffs.
If they are not available then the other sie making the playoffs goes up.
If they are not available then it goes by seasn win loss records and if equal then the cumulative points totals the remaining teams finished with.
Regarding relegation

The 4 teams going down will begin with any inactive teams
If more than 4 teams were inactive then additional promotion spots will be provided and all the inactive teams will be relegated to the bottom division
Inactivity should be clearly defined in the rules

• How an inactive team works should be defined aswell My take on it is that if a team goes inactive (as defined by what is agreed as inactivity) then the GM should manage this team by putting the best team out weekly based on NFL.com projections. I suggest this so as to make it fair to those who had to play against this team when it was competing so everybody should essentialyl be treated fairly.

• To make this fair I think you need to go further and add that if the GM has to make a change to the team due to bye weeks to ensure every team plays a side with a full active side he should take the best projected score from NFL.com from the free agency market to to that. so for example if the inactive team has Dallas DEF who are on a bye then the GM should bring in the best projected FA defense in its place lets use Tampa for example. It should be agreed however that none of the other users can pickup Dallas off the waivers and following that week the GM should revert to the original selection by swapping Dallas back in and dropping Tampa.

• Not mentioned but it should obviously state that anybody found to have 2 teams in the boards league structure wil be automatically banned from being in the league
• The should be a procedure in place should a team attempt to sabotage the league by emptying their team roster onto the market. How it was dealt with in D2 last season should be the blueprint. i.e the league GM manually overrides any changes to the rosters puts the players back on the team and locks the sabotaging owner from accessing the team. This team will then be treated as inactive.
• There should be a Division thread for each season These threads should only list the exact rosters of each team and should be updated weekly and should also list all the results of games. The reason for this is should a GM decide to sabotage things by deleting a league a new one could be setup and rosters etc set to negate the malicious actions.

I think this is the most important thing not listed in this thread so far

• I also think the charter should clearly state when the legue drafts will take place. I would agree that mentioning all drafts will beging between end of preseason and x number of days before the league kickoff would be the best way to go.

Benimar

An issue that came to light in Division 5 this week which I feel should be included.

One player placed Arian Foster on waivers and later claimed he did not mean to do this. Now, I'm not here to question what went on, but he did ask that no one pick Foster up off Waivers.

This was backed up by an email from the GM asking us not to pick up Foster.

I had a claim in for him, which had I left in, would have got me the player. I decided to follow the request of the GM, but clearly another player did not and now has Foster.

I know a lot of people may feel Foster was fair game (me included), but I think there should be some sort of rule in place - preferably that if you place a player on Waivers (accidental or not) you have no right to get him back.

tallaghtoutlaws

Benimar wrote: »

An issue that came to light in Division 5 this week which I feel should be included.

One player placed Arian Foster on waivers and later claimed he did not mean to do this. Now, I'm not here to question what went on, but he did ask that no one pick Foster up off Waivers.

This was backed up by an email from the GM asking us not to pick up Foster.

I had a claim in for him, which had I left in, would have got me the player. I decided to follow the request of the GM, but clearly another player did not and now has Foster.

GM shouldn't have said anything. You release a player tough sh1t in my eyes. IT asks you to confirm the drop before doing so.

I know a lot of people may feel Foster was fair game (me included), but I think there should be some sort of rule in place - preferably that if you place a player on Waivers (accidental or not) you have no right to get him back.

I would agree. Foster should now be with the team who had the highest waiver spot that put in for him.

Peyton Manning

Agree, there are far too many "Are you sure you want to...?" confirmation screens for any sympathy to be allowed. Should have been fair game, and the GM shouldn't have asked people to withdraw their claims. That was a silly imo.

Spongey1975

If a top player is dropped by a team by accident then it should be fair game and go to the top waiver request. Its a harsh reality for the player doing the dropping that he will not make the same mistake again. It also sends a dangerous precedent for people having second thoughts about dropping a player knowing that they can get him back by pleading accident

D3PO

Spongey1975 wrote: »

If a top player is dropped by a team by accident then it should be fair game and go to the top waiver request. Its a harsh reality for the player doing the dropping that he will not make the same mistake again. It also sends a dangerous precedent for people having second thoughts about dropping a player knowing that they can get him back by pleading accident

well this brings up another point. Top players shouldnt be possible to be dropped they should be categorised as undroppable.

if a player is not undroppable and hes dropped its fair game tough luck. We dont cater for stupidity in the leagues.

The boards ff league should have a uniform list of undroppable players across all divisions agreed pre season.

a player should only move off the undroppable list if he goes on IR or cannot player for at least 3 weeks in a row.

Peyton Manning

D3PO wrote: »

a player should only move off the undroppable list if he goes on IR or cannot player for at least 3 weeks in a row.

NFL.com already does that. Arian Foster was undroppable, but his limited participation in the first 3 weeks removed him from that list.

D3PO

Tom_Brady wrote: »

NFL.com already does that. Arian Foster was undroppable, but his limited participation in the first 3 weeks removed him from that list.

ok cool I thought that was manually configured by the GM's. In that case the situation in Div 5 is a joke.

If somebody is dropped hes fair game end of story. No GM should intervene in the waiver process or attempt to intervene in anyway.

GoldFour4

For the first bye week GM should send a pm to any players who may have forgotten about it. Just for the first week. No excuses after that. Have sent PM`s to a number of players in Division 2 but will not be doing so next week or any other week.

D3PO

malachyscott wrote: »

For the first bye week GM should send a pm to any players who may have forgotten about it. Just for the first week. No excuses after that. Have sent PM`s to a number of players in Division 2 but will not be doing so next week or any other week.

I dont agree. You either actively manage your tema or your dont. If you dont you dont get to play in the boards leagues moving forward.

All this nonsense with GM's babysitting players be it becasue they dropped a player by accident or forgot to bench a guy on a bye are insane.

your only one step short of saying GM's should provide lineup advice. This stuff is not a GM's job and shouldnt be part of any agreed charter.

Dodge

Agree 100% with D3PO

Up to players to manage their own teams. Forget about bye weeks? can't get to change your team? going on holidays? Tough

Frisbee

Does anyone know exactly how many leagues we have active?

I know for certain we have:

Boards Div 1 - 5
Keeper league
NCAA Fantasy League
PPR League

I'm just trying to get a bit of structure sorted into the Fantasy football Sub-forum so once we have a charter and definitive set of rules nailed down we can open her up straight away.

If I've missed any, which I'm sure I have, can you PM them to me or just post them up here?

Cheers

Peyton Manning

There's also the College Fantasy Football league, and I think there's a PPR league. That would be it for official Boards forum leagues.

Frisbee

Ok I've lashed together a very rough draft having flicked through the thread and taking out some of the main points. Tear it apart as you will and let me know what needs to go in or come out.

Cheers

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ALL BOARDS FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUES WILL BE PLAYED ON NFL.com

1. Each League will have it's own specific thread that will be started by a Moderator at the start of July each year.

2. As well as this there will be a 'Sign Up' thread opened at the same time each year so that those who didn't participate the previous season have a chance to play in the coming season. All new players MUST register their interest no later than July 31st each year in order to be considered for a position in a league this year.

3. Each Gameweek will also have it's own thread that will be used for all divisions. This will be for general queries such as: “Who should I start this week; Garcon @ Oakland or Rice @ Cleveland?

4. Any players who go inactive for more than 3 weeks during the season will be disqualified from entering for the next season. (Within reason, if someone goes on holiday for three weeks that's fine as long as they mention it before they do.)

5. All League General Managers will have to be re-elected by those in their league for the next year.

6. ALL Boards League drafts MUST be held between the end of the final pre-season game and the Thursday night season opener.

7. ALL Boards Leagues MUST play by the same set of League settings to avoid any confusion. League settings will be attached in a seperate post as well as in the opening post of each individual league thread.

Settings below:



8. If a team is abandoned mid-season then the GM of the league will take control of that team. They will select the team each week purely going by NFL.com's 'Projected Points'. That team will not be allowed to take part in any trades, pick anyone up off waivers or drop players.

9. Promotion and relegation will take place via a '4 up 4 down' system. The 4 teams that make the playoffs in a League will be promoted to the league above the next season. The 4 teams with the worse records in the league will be relegated to the next division down for the next season.

10. Anyone who sets out to deliberately mess up a league by signing up and dropping all their players after drafting or offering very obviously one sided trades to make another team too strong will be banned from both the Fantasy Football Forum and the American Football forum as a whole permanently.

Spongey1975

Frisbee wrote: »

Does anyone know exactly how many leagues we have active?

I know for certain we have:

Boards Div 1 - 5
Keeper league
NCAA Fantasy League
PPR League

I'm just trying to get a bit of structure sorted into the Fantasy football Sub-forum so once we have a charter and definitive set of rules nailed down we can open her up straight away.

If I've missed any, which I'm sure I have, can you PM them to me or just post them up here?

Cheers

There is also the Late to the Party league and the Paddy Patriots league (although i'm not sure if thats run through here or just has members here in it)

adrian522

Frisbee wrote: »

ALL BOARDS FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUES WILL BE PLAYED ON NFL.com

Thanks for this!!

The PPR league is on ESPN and the college football league is on CBS. The masin leagues (prem, div 1, div 2 etc) are all on NFL.com