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Could you cope being homeless?.

  • 17-10-2011 11:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭


    Looking at news and some threads,you might read some sad stories about those who barely struggle to make ends meet,or worry that they missed some petty thing in their life.

    I ask,would you cope if you came homeless over night,would you make it on the streets,i think myself i would resort to crime so could be locked up for the night or mug someone out of desperation to pay for some food+drink.

    Some of those who fall into the trap have addiction/mental problems,others money problems or nowhere simply to go.

    Would you be able to cope?.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Given that I already have mental and drink problems. Yes. Like a duck to water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    I very much doubt it. Wouldn't last a week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Couldn't do it myself.

    I'm a pampered useless f*ck.

    I'm also thankful to have a family who would support me if things got too bad.

    So I'm lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭James__10


    Theres always the simon community people!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I heard a man begging for money the other day to an oul fella, when he was refused money he went on about all his problems about being homeless.

    I then heard the best reply ever to a homeless dude.
    The oul fella said ''you have problems? you can go sleep in a lane tonight with no worries!. I have to go home to worry about a mortgage, try to make enough money to feed my fat son and then have to deal with horrible looks from my wife all night so don't talk to me about problems!''

    Classic!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Is that a situation in life that its impossibleto know how youd react until it happens to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    I dont know what id do without me cuppa tea :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    I heard a man begging for money the other day to an oul fella, when he was refused money he went on about all his problems about being homeless.

    I then heard the best reply ever to a homeless dude.
    The oul fella said ''you have problems? you can go sleep in a lane tonight with no worries!. I have to go home to worry about a mortgage, try to make enough money to feed my fat son and then have to deal with horrible looks from my wife all night so don't talk to me about problems!''

    Classic!

    right there is when he lost that tete a tete :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Marcus_Crassus


    BEING homeless; not been.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    Yes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I'd buy a van and live in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    I'd go out stealing and be a bad bastard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I know a lot of homeless people, and one of my closest friends died on the streets (I posted about him before, came home from Lebanon suffering Post Traumatic Stress).

    I think I could cope in the short to medium term, but few homeless people live into old age.

    Heard one boardsie tell a homeless beggar to "Fvck off" outside a bar one night - it disgusted me and has tainted my view's of him since.

    There is nothing hard, or smart about telling some of the most vulnerable people in Irish society to "Fvck off".

    Please God wherever you are never let me or mine become homeless.

    'There but for the grace of God of I'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Not a hope id crack up altogether, would probably drive m to drugs. Here hoping ill never have to find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    BEING homeless; not been.
    There is someone that wouldn't make it a night on the streets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Tesco Massacre


    I've got charisma and a reasonably nice ass.

    I won't go hungry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    I reckon those who couldn't cope are defined by their homes/careers/possesions/status. Seeing as I don't have any of those, I reckon I could survive on the streets.

    I spent a night out with a group who had nowhere else to go only 3 weeks ago. I'm not belittling it as it did seem pretty tough in comparison to my own situation but it's not a million mile jump from where most of us are paying rent/mortgages/etc. - at least we wouldn't have to worry about all that nonsense.

    Saying that, feeling completely safe is rare for everyone. We're all human at the end of the day!

    *I don't know whether to add a smiley or frowny face here*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    BigBoss47 wrote: »
    I heard a man begging for money the other day to an oul fella, when he was refused money he went on about all his problems about being homeless.

    I then heard the best reply ever to a homeless dude.
    The oul fella said ''you have problems? you can go sleep in a lane tonight with no worries!. I have to go home to worry about a mortgage, try to make enough money to feed my fat son and then have to deal with horrible looks from my wife all night so don't talk to me about problems!''

    Classic!

    He sounds like a c+nt, if he exists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    I reckon those who couldn't cope are defined by their homes/careers/possesions/status. Seeing as I don't have any of those, I reckon I could survive on the streets.


    It has nothing to do with any of the above for me, its more about having a warm place and a bed to sleep on. Also the begging or robbing for survival i find hard to do, plus youd be mixing with some fairly dodgey characters when living on the streets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    stovelid wrote: »
    He sounds like a c+nt, if he exists.

    I believe he used to be Taoiseach.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    I reckon those who couldn't cope are defined by their homes/careers/possesions/status. Seeing as I don't have any of those, I reckon I could survive on the streets.

    I spent a night out with a group who had nowhere else to go only 3 weeks ago. I'm not belittling it as it did seem pretty tough in comparison to my own situation but it's not a million mile jump from where most of us are paying rent/mortgages/etc. - at least we wouldn't have to worry about all that nonsense.

    Saying that, feeling completely safe is rare for everyone. We're all human at the end of the day!

    *I don't know whether to add a smiley or frowny face here*
    I'm not a very materialistic person at all but I can't imagine I'd survive long homeless. We might not have to worry about bills but what about the basic things like going to the bathroom, getting washed, keeping clean during periods, storing bedding during the day, where to keep a spare set of clothes? It might be ok for one night but coming into winter, when it's freezing and wet, I'd rather be worrying about my rent from inside my appartment, then outside with no bills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    For the sake of my sanity I really hope I didn't hear people comparing the stress of paying a mortgage and holding down a job to the lot of somebody on the streets.


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    stovelid wrote: »
    He sounds like a c+nt, if he exists.

    He does, and you couldn't be more wrong in fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    If people think you can just get locked up for the cold nights and well it doesn't work out like that.
    It takes a while for the court date and you will never receive the letters this leads to being on the run from the police.
    The police don't want you if homeless unless to send you away for a while and not one or two nights.
    Try ask the police will they just lock you up for the night because you don't have fair to get home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    I'm not a very materialistic person at all but I can't imagine I'd survive long homeless. We might not have to worry about bills but what about the basic things like going to the bathroom, getting washed, keeping clean during periods, storing bedding during the day, where to keep a spare set of clothes? It might be ok for one night but coming into winter, when it's freezing and wet, I'd rather be worrying about my rent from inside my appartment, then outside with no bills.

    As I said in my post, I spent one night out with them - from about 9pm to 7am. It makes me sick what they need to do to get through the day.

    Thankfully I had a bed to go home to at the end of it all but everyone will do what they need to do according to their own morals to survive, house or not. You would surprise yourself on how long you would survive on the streets - its not the end of the world. No matter what, it will be outside your comfort zone despite your backgroud but you will do it regardless. You will do what needs to be done in order to survive.

    Not getting on my high horse about it but it's just a shame the masses don't realise this. Maybe they'd be handing over the spare change easier - I will admit it is harder to know who should rightfully be given the change these days unfortunately. The genuine homeless I've spoken to are giving out about this as much as we are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    BigBoss47 wrote: »
    stovelid wrote: »
    He sounds like a c+nt, if he exists.

    He does, and you couldn't be more wrong in fact.

    Maybe he was just having a c+nt attack the day he said that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    He does, and you couldn't be more wrong in fact.

    So he does sound like a c*nt but he doesn't exist? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    stovelid wrote: »
    He sounds like a c+nt, if he exists.


    Sadly enough, people who are comfortable telling homeless people to **** off are not rare. Seen it plenty of times.


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    stovelid wrote: »
    Maybe he was just having a c+nt attack the day he said that.

    Not at all, the homeless guy had a sense of humour and laughed about it.
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    So he does sound like a c*nt but he doesn't exist? :confused:
    Nope he does exist, but he is far from a c*nt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    I think very poorly of people who are abusive to the homeless.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sadly enough, people who are comfortable telling homeless people to **** off are not rare. Seen it plenty of times.

    The guy I was talking about didn't tell the homeless man to fúck off. He made a joking comment about the situation and the homeless took it as that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    BigBoss47 wrote: »
    Nope he does exist, but he is far from a c*nt.

    The c+ntometer is still in the red. Maybe it just needs new batteries.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Maybe, but just take my word for it instead, he is no c*unt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    A homeless person is more likely to get mugged than anyone else because the don't report it and are easy pray.
    This would take to long to explain but some people go out at night and target homeless people.
    If the police fine a homeless person with a weapon to defend them self then they are in big trouble but anyone else could have the weapon in their car and say I'm putting down some carpets lately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    Maybe, but just take my word for it instead, he is no c*unt.
    Lets face what he said was c*ntish but he might not be a c*nt type person all round.
    Ok.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    No one could say they could cope. Because no-one knows until it happens. Its just one of those things you hope to never experience.

    As bad as it seems :( If the unfortunate happened. I'd rob a few people to try and get back on my feet. I know that's bad and all. But I see it as the only solution.

    Lets be real, how many homeless people do you see getting interviews? or more importantly gaining a job.... None.
    Imagine if you're in town without a penny in your pocket, no where to go, no so called "friend" is willing to help you out ... what you gonna do?

    Cant even get the social welfare as they'll ask for an address.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭IsMiseLisa


    I'd be a **** homeless person. I wouldn't like begging.

    More importantly, I'd have severe withdrawal symptoms from the internet.


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    Dodd wrote: »
    Lets face what he said was c*ntish but he might not be a c*nt type person all round.
    Ok.

    Not ok, my point was that he was joking with the guy and they laughed about, nothing c*untish about it. At least he had a bit of banter unlike alot of people who would just ignore him or as mentioned tell him to f*uck off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    No one could say they could cope. Because no-one knows until it happens. Its just one of those things you hope to never experience.

    As bad as it seems :( If the unfortunate happened. I'd rob a few people to try and get back on my feet. I know that's bad and all. But I see it as the only solution.

    Lets be real, how many homeless people do you see getting interviews? or more importantly gaining a job.... None.
    Imagine if you're in town without a penny in your pocket, no where to go, no so called "friend" is willing to help you out ... what you gonna do?

    Cant even get the social welfare as they'll ask for an address.
    So if you were in town and some homeless person robbed you would think it was ok.?
    I would kick 9 shades of **** out of you and you wouldn't want to live home or not.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    Not ok, my point was that he was joking with the guy and they laughed about, nothing c*untish about it. At least he had a bit of banter unlike alot of people who would just ignore him or as mentioned tell him to f*uck off.
    Can you imagine asking a friend for money for food/rent and they refused and put a joke in there.
    I get what you are saying but if the guy gave a euro and said "She is going ask me later why are we down a euro":)
    He can then explain to her that he gets nothing for all the time and work he puts in and move out to live with his new homeless friend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Dodd wrote: »
    So if you were in town and some homeless person robbed you would think it was ok.?
    I would kick 9 shades of **** out of you and you wouldn't want to live home or not.:mad:

    1, thats the difference between me and you i guess. If both of us were homeless. I know that bad things have to be done to get out of being homeless. You dont, or at least dont want to admit to having to do said bad things. Its wrong. I admit. But certain times in life you got to do wrong things.
    2, i highly doubt you could fight your way out of a paper bag. No offense. But i find that 99% of the time "hard comments" on the net are complete BS. If you wanna disagree with what I say, thats different, but adding the whole "kick 9 shades of sh*t" just makes you come off as a keyboard warrior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    1, thats the difference between me and you i guess. If both of us were homeless. I know that bad things have to be done to get out of being homeless. You dont, or at least dont want to admit to having to do said bad things. Its wrong. I admit. But certain times in life you got to do wrong things.
    2, i highly doubt you could fight your way out of a paper bag. No offense. But i find that 99% of the time "hard comments" on the net are complete BS. If you wanna disagree with what I say, thats different, but adding the whole "kick 9 shades of sh*t" just makes you come off as a keyboard warrior.
    I was not talking about you as a person but you as a homeless person.
    A homeless person in weak most likely.
    You as a homeless person try to rob me well then or any one else tries to rob me then you a few **** will be kicked.
    Robbing people is not on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    1, thats the difference between me and you i guess. If both of us were homeless. I know that bad things have to be done to get out of being homeless. You dont, or at least dont want to admit to having to do said bad things. Its wrong. I admit. But certain times in life you got to do wrong things.
    2, i highly doubt you could fight your way out of a paper bag. No offense. But i find that 99% of the time "hard comments" on the net are complete BS. If you wanna disagree with what I say, thats different, but adding the whole "kick 9 shades of sh*t" just makes you come off as a keyboard warrior.
    Bold above.
    Some times it is mental issues that need to be looked at and with out that there is the problem the made them homeless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Dodd wrote: »
    I was not talking about you as a person but you as a homeless person.
    A homeless person in weak most likely.
    You as a homeless person try to rob me well then or any one else tries to rob me then you a few **** will be kicked.
    Robbing people is not on.

    I take back what I said above.

    Dodd wrote: »
    Bold above.
    Some times it is mental issues that need to be looked at and with out that there is the problem the made them homeless.


    I know what you are saying. But not everyone who hits the streets has mental issues. Take a look at recession. Had to of made alot of people homeless.

    Its kinda f***ed up Dodd. Like, one can abuse the social welfare system. Never have the intention of working. But get money to live and survive. But yet, a homeless person cant get the social. Because they dont have an "address" ... pssh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Been there, Wore the T-Shirt !!

    Well I tried it on for size !!!

    The start of '99 was a turbulent one and one I won't repeat in a hurry, But I managed to stay on a friends couch for 1 week and in a room in a dive of a house with mad people for another week, There was days of trying to find a place to stay and yes it was so embarrassing but I wouldn't really describe myself as being homeless but I had a taste of it.

    Also making my way to Kilburn weeks earlier when I drunkenly decided to thumb to Rosslare Harbour and catch a ferry then stayed for one night in the cold at the platform shelter at Kilburn High Road station was another taste of it, Got refused at Quax Road Hostel the next day as it was full but ended up in a top floor penthouse in Lexham Gardens courtesy of a cousin who got me a flight home from Luton. I was blessed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    charlemont wrote: »
    Been there, Wore the T-Shirt !!

    Well I tried it on for size !!!

    The start of '99 was a turbulent one and one I won't repeat in a hurry, But I managed to stay on a friends couch for 1 week and in a room in a dive of a house with mad people for another week, There was days of trying to find a place to stay and yes it was so embarrassing but I wouldn't really describe myself as being homeless but I had a taste of it.

    Also making my way to Kilburn weeks earlier when I drunkenly decided to thumb to Rosslare Harbour and catch a ferry then stayed for one night in the cold at the platform shelter at Kilburn High Road station was another taste of it, Got refused at Quax Road Hostel the next day as it was full but ended up in a top floor penthouse in Lexham Gardens courtesy of a cousin who got me a flight home from Luton. I was blessed.
    So you posted to say what.?
    Bar the I am great stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    I'd say I would.I've lived in a car for a month and then had it stolen on me.it was pretty crappy but I got by ,I think a lot of people would if they had too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    beano345 wrote: »
    I'd say I would.I've lived in a car for a month and then had it stolen on me.it was pretty crappy but I got by ,I think a lot of people would if they had too
    You would not rob someone tough would you.?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    Dodd wrote: »
    You would not rob someone tough would you.?

    Though or tough? Well that depends on the individuals moral code and desperation I suppose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    beano345 wrote: »
    Though or tough? Well that depends on the individuals moral code and desperation I suppose
    Good god I missed a letter'you know what I meant and did you steal or rob anyone.
    No you did not.
    I am sure there is a post in the charter about spelling and people posting about others getting a word wrong.


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