7billion People in the World.

investment

Fcuk the smart economy .. If Ireland was to become a farming economy we would have a better chance of becoming wealthy again

The world needs food to survive , rather than a stupid Iphone app ..etc


http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/world-news/world-population-set-to-reach-7bn-2908356.html

chin_grin

Just watched Rampage. It'd be my first solution. Maybe my "final" one. Cough. Yes I realise it's written and directed by that goon Uwe Boll, but it's actually good! No, really!

JupiterKid

Yes, the global population may be 7 billion but the rate of growth is mercifully slowing down significantly.

The bigger story is that now more than half the worlds population lives in cities and towns.

Haelium

JupiterKid wrote: »

Yes, the global population may be 7 billion but the rate of growth is mercifully slowing down significantly.

The bigger story is that now more than half the worlds population lives in cities and towns.

I heard the exact same thing when the population had only recently turned 6,000,000,000, that was about 10 years ago.

Celly Smunt

one problem,Ireland is a cráp place to farm.

General General

I think OP is on to something, only a matter of time before my local VEC is offering an innovative new course on how to develop carrots.

Full.Duck

pmcmahon wrote: »

one problem,Ireland is a cráp place to farm.

This is very subjective to what type for farming your are talking about.

aaronjumper

So, already overpopulated and still growing.

B0 SELECTRA

lol :rolleyes:

Temptamperu

I am all for the hunting of those we see unfit to live in society.




I pick a crossbow.

Micklaus

Bad idea is bad........this has been done before with the Irish economy and failed miserably. Need serious investment in R&D nowadays to stay ahead of the game.

orourkeda

aaronjumper wrote: »

So, already overpopulated and still growing.

No

AnonoBoy

Why am I still sitting alone in my boxers crying then?


















Oh wait.... it's my obnoxious personality. Carry on!

aaronjumper

orourkeda wrote: »

No

Would you like to elaborate?

D1stant

So if Enda and Geldof can introduce a global digout and get 20 quid from everyone we're sorted

orourkeda

aaronjumper wrote: »

Would you like to elaborate?

Theres room for many a more

pragmatic1

pmcmahon wrote: »

one problem,Ireland is a cráp place to farm.

What. Ireland has some of the finest farm land in Europe.

aaronjumper

orourkeda wrote: »

Theres room for many a more

Okay. Thanks, I feel better now.

Pompey Magnus

orourkeda wrote: »

Theres room for many a more

Plenty of room alright, but that isn't the problem. It is allocation of resources that is becoming an issue.

aidan24326

orourkeda wrote: »

Theres room for many a more

It's irrelevant how many there's room for, it's how many the world's resources can sustain.

edit: just noticed Pompey Magnus said that already

vampire of kilmainham

nuke em all i say

vampire of kilmainham

7 billion people living in the world and if one of these people should accidently fall and be killed a new baby would be born somewhere so there would still be 7billion people living in the world lalalalalaaaaaaaaa

The Scientician

Katie Melua's 9 Million Bicycles will have to be updated.

SharpshooterTom

David Attenbrough did a bbc documentry about it last year suggesting that it was a big problem, joined optimumtrust trying to combat some of the problems because of what it was doing to wildlife. He said he recieved hate mail from Libertarians though.

Oh and the world's birth rates aren't declining necessarily. Only in Europe and North America. Africa and most of Asia are still booming and aren't showing signs of slowing down.

robp

Oh and the world's birth rates aren't declining necessarily. Only in Europe and North America. Africa and most of Asia are still booming and aren't showing signs of slowing down.

Birth rates are dropping on all continents. In most counties bar a few in Africa and a handful in Asia they dropping very slowly or are static but thats the exception. Check out this graph.

mconigol

Ireland is a farming economy.

Oranage2

When the sun burns out in 2012 we're going to find it hard to grow food and the population will die down to only a few million, then an ice age will last a few more decades until we orbit a new sun.

It's all in the bible guys.

mandrake04

Its hard to beat a good cull all the same.

ejmaztec

mconigol wrote: »

Ireland is a farming economy.

Yes, everything's getting farmed out to other countries.

4leto

7 billion hungry, thirsty and energy/luxury demanding souls and now all the cheeky cnuts want to live as we do.

The truth is the Earth isn't big enough so time to move. OK not an option.

It's one of those problems, like global warming, which we know is leading to a catastrophe but there is not a damn thing we can do about it. So I say let the future deal with it in resource wars, that would cull it.

arse..biscuits

I feel guilty for having two kids now

RichieC

orourkeda wrote: »

Theres room for many a more

There indeed is. However, most of us normal people will require water of which less than one half of 1 percent of the globes 300+ trillion gallons is potable.

The demand for freshwater has been increasing at a rate twice that of our population growth. 80 million extra people a year and the increasing pollution into clean water supplies that go along with it.

..but yea, you're right. There's loads of room.

Fremen

JupiterKid wrote: »

Yes, the global population may be 7 billion but the rate of growth is mercifully slowing down significantly.

The bigger story is that now more than half the worlds population lives in cities and towns.

No it's not. The world population is growing faster than exponentially.

Stinicker

Cue Kevin Myers and some raving plan for sterilising all the blacks in tomorrows Indo! :pac:

charlemont

arse..biscuits wrote: »

I feel guilty for having two kids now

Well don't, Its the people having large families that are creating the problems, Women in the countries with the largest population increases don't get our type of education and the men don't appear to have any idea of contraception so they have lots of children without the resources to give them a comfortable standard of living, India and Pakistan are a joke at least in China the population stabilised and the people got education in birth control etc.

Haelium

Stinicker wrote: »

Cue Kevin Myers and some raving plan for sterilising all the blacks in tomorrows Indo! :pac:

It wouldn't be a bad idea. If the African population continues like this then there will be even more starvation, sterilization would be humane when you think about it.

charlemont

Haelium wrote: »

It wouldn't be a bad idea. If the African population continues like this then there will be even more starvation, sterilization would be humane when you think about it.

Don't confuse Nigeria with the rest of Black Africa, Or North Africa in particular Egypt which is Arab not Black.

Haelium

charlemont wrote: »

Don't confuse Nigeria with the rest of Black Africa, Or North Africa in particular Egypt which is Arab not Black.

I think everybody knows that I'm not suggesting that the entire content be sterilized, but that is the region where the problem is most prevalent. Places like Ethiopia and Somalia could do with some serious depopulation though.

longhalloween

Haelium wrote: »

It wouldn't be a bad idea. If the African population continues like this then there will be even more starvation, sterilization would be humane when you think about it.

That's a REALLY bad idea. Why not sterilize the poor Indians and the Chinese while you're at it. And get those with mental disabilities and below average IQs while you're at it :rolleyes:

EDIT: Heh, imagine the chuggers on Grafton street looking to raise money for forced sterilisation of Africans.


The world is in no way overpopulated.

There just happens to be a huge problem with the allocation of resources and wealth.

RichieC

Haelium wrote: »

It wouldn't be a bad idea. If the African population continues like this then there will be even more starvation, sterilization would be humane when you think about it.

Wiping out a continents population through forced sterilisation would be humane? jesus f*ck. What the hell is wrong with people?

Haelium

RichieC wrote: »

Wiping out a continents population through forced sterilisation would be humane? jesus f*ck. What the hell is wrong with people?

It's not a pleasant concept, but it is necessary. Which is worse, sterilization now or starvation for the next few centuries? We can't be emotional about it, it's more humane in the long run. As for lower IQ, sterilization is going a bit far, but I think we should try to discourage people with mental deficiency from having children.

longhalloween wrote: »

That's a REALLY bad idea. Why not sterilize the poor Indians and the Chinese while you're at it. And get those with mental disabilities and below average IQs while you're at it

The Chinese have solved their population problem, and India is developing, many African countries are not.

longhalloween wrote: »

The world is in no way overpopulated.

1 billion in only 10 years with no sign of decline isn't overpopulation?

longhalloween wrote: »

There just happens to be a huge problem with the allocation of resources and wealth.

I don't want to stop technological advancement, do you?




My other solution is to just stop "aid" and allow UDCs to develop naturally by themselves. But the bleeding hearts will never allow that.

redzerologhlen

If only people could get miximetotis it would sort things out :rolleyes:

Stinicker

I think what is needed for Africa is not sterilisation but colonisation, the majority of africa is so corrupt you cannot even pass through an airport there without without getting asked for bribes. There is no development or anything and most of the people effected were far better off under colonial rule as they are incapable of governing themselves as some dictator like Mugabe, Mubarak or Qaddafi will end up destroying the country.

Africa is the least developed continent in the world, yet is the richest in resources, it has 1 billion people most of whom are unemployed, half starving or busy kicking the crap out of each other, there is no law and order and corruption is rife. Yet do gooders in the west send billions to corrupt regimes whilst the ordinary people suffer.

We (as in the West) should be bombing these regimes, colonising their lands, building proper democracy, infrastructure, health care, creating new markets and new wealth for these people, now lets say, there is a market of 1 billion people that needs to be developed and the increase in consumption of 1 billion africans pulling themselves out of mud huts and into cars, jobs, education, western lifestyles would be enormous for the worlds economy.

Colonisation is the answer and not sterilisation.

bnt

longhalloween wrote: »

The world is in no way overpopulated.

There just happens to be a huge problem with the allocation of resources and wealth.

You're confusing cause and effect there. Calling overpopulation a global problem - or not - is grossly oversimplifying the issues. Some parts of the world have a local overpopulation problem, and that is playing a factor in why some countries remain poor when they could be making progress.

PS - if anyone's thinking of using China as an example of a country that is overpopulated yet successful, well: China's success is superficial, based on an artificial currency debasement, pretty much limited to the cities where a property bubble is in full effect. It's not going to last.

Geekness1234

Micklaus wrote: »

Bad idea is bad........this has been done before with the Irish economy and failed miserably. Need serious investment in R&D nowadays to stay ahead of the game.

+1!
We should pump billions making Ireland into the "R&D go to guy" for Europe and the U.S.

philstar

its all you catholics fault havin huge families ..why don't you cut down on the sex and take up gardening or something

paddyandy

.. not real catholics nowadays more like protestants who go to mass along with a few heretics and atheists and agnostics who are often not too sure what they are these days.The Old style Irish Catholic is old if around at all.They go along any way for the craic.

Fluorescence

Well, besides the fact that there's more than enough food in the world to sustain twice it's current population (allocation is the only issue), we couldn't compete in a global market for mass food production. We simply don't have enough farmland to feed a large amount of people outside this country (I mean, the entire island is about only about 84k square kms). Compare this to the USA where truly enormous amounts of land are given over to farming - over 2 billion acres of farmland (source). There's no way we could dream of competing with that.

That said, numbers of young people entering agriculture are on the rise apparently, which is great.

RichieC

Haelium wrote: »

It's not a pleasant concept, but it is necessary. Which is worse, sterilization now or starvation for the next few centuries? We can't be emotional about it, it's more humane in the long run. As for lower IQ, sterilization is going a bit far, but I think we should try to discourage people with mental deficiency from having children.

and then there was Eugenics.

longhalloween

Haelium wrote: »

The Chinese have solved their population problem, and India is developing, many African countries are not.

Hmm, the ol' memories of 'forced abortions' protests are coming back to me now. India is developing. But most of it is not.

Haelium wrote: »

1 billion in only 10 years with no sign of decline isn't overpopulation?

Nope. At what stage will the Earth DEFINITELY be overpopulated?

Haelium wrote: »

I don't want to stop technological advancement, do you?

Nope Because it is that advancement which will negate the pressures a larger population puts on resources and energy

Haelium wrote: »

My other solution is to just stop "aid" and allow UDCs to develop naturally by themselves. But the bleeding hearts will never allow that.

I don't agree on giving aid to them either, but I don't want whole populations to be sterilised. Do you?? Would you like to be the guy doing it?

It wasn't too long ago that many families in Ireland were having 8+ kids. What if Britain decided during the famine that the Irish were too backward and started a campaign of forced sterilisation then?

Stinicker wrote: »

We (as in the West) should be bombing these regimes, colonising their lands, building proper democracy, infrastructure, health care, creating new markets and new wealth for these people, now lets say, there is a market of 1 billion people that needs to be developed and the increase in consumption of 1 billion africans pulling themselves out of mud huts and into cars, jobs, education, western lifestyles would be enormous for the worlds economy.

Colonisation is the answer and not sterilisation.

Afghanistan and Iraq anyone?? Not exactly bastions of consumerism.

SafeSurfer

Stinicker wrote: »

I think what is needed for Africa is not sterilisation but colonisation, the majority of africa is so corrupt you cannot even pass through an airport there without without getting asked for bribes. There is no development or anything and most of the people effected were far better off under colonial rule as they are incapable of governing themselves as some dictator like Mugabe, Mubarak or Qaddafi will end up destroying the country.

Africa is the least developed continent in the world, yet is the richest in resources, it has 1 billion people most of whom are unemployed, half starving or busy kicking the crap out of each other, there is no law and order and corruption is rife. Yet do gooders in the west send billions to corrupt regimes whilst the ordinary people suffer.

We (as in the West) should be bombing these regimes, colonising their lands, building proper democracy, infrastructure, health care, creating new markets and new wealth for these people, now lets say, there is a market of 1 billion people that needs to be developed and the increase in consumption of 1 billion africans pulling themselves out of mud huts and into cars, jobs, education, western lifestyles would be enormous for the worlds economy.

Colonisation is the answer and not sterilisation.

Have you considered that colonisation is the cause of much of the current problems in Africa?

The myriad of wars and conflict is a legacy of the European colonialists arbitrarily drawing national boundries without regard to native populations, tribal loyalties etc. A glance at a map of Africa or the Middle East, with all those straight line national borders, drawn up by European bureacrats is instructive.

I would also think that Asia is richer in resources than Africa, as you claim.

You say

"We (as in the West) should be bombing these regimes, colonising their lands, building proper democracy"

Do you see any flaw in your argument here?