The Grapevine (OFF TOPIC CHAT) Part II

auspicious

The “chicken bites”, produced by the US company Eat Just, have passed a safety review by the Singapore Food Agency and the approval could open the door to a future when all meat is produced without the killing of livestock, the company said.

Dozens of firms are developing cultivated chicken, beef and pork, with a view to slashing the impact of industrial livestock production on the climate and nature crises, as well as providing cleaner, drug-free and cruelty-free meat.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/02/no-kill-lab-grown-meat-to-go-on-sale-for-first-time

(-Singapore's approval of Eat Just's product will likely attract competitors to set up operations in the city state, and it could also prompt other countries to approve it, too.
-No antibiotics were used in the process, and the chicken had lower microbiological content than conventional chicken, [Just Eat] said.)

Josh Tetrick, of Eat Just, said: “I think the approval is one of the most significant milestones in the food industry in the last handful of decades. It’s an open door and it’s up to us and other companies to take that opportunity. My hope is this leads to a world in the next handful of years where the majority of meat doesn’t require killing a single animal or tearing down a single tree.”

Unearthly

I definitely think this technology is a gamechanger. It solves so many issues.

I'll stick to my plant food but hopefully meat eaters adopt it

igCorcaigh

auspicious wrote: »

The “chicken bites”, produced by the US company Eat Just, have passed a safety review by the Singapore Food Agency and the approval could open the door to a future when all meat is produced without the killing of livestock, the company said.

Dozens of firms are developing cultivated chicken, beef and pork, with a view to slashing the impact of industrial livestock production on the climate and nature crises, as well as providing cleaner, drug-free and cruelty-free meat.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/02/no-kill-lab-grown-meat-to-go-on-sale-for-first-time

(-Singapore's approval of Eat Just's product will likely attract competitors to set up operations in the city state, and it could also prompt other countries to approve it, too.
-No antibiotics were used in the process, and the chicken had lower microbiological content than conventional chicken, [Just Eat] said.)

Josh Tetrick, of Eat Just, said: “I think the approval is one of the most significant milestones in the food industry in the last handful of decades. It’s an open door and it’s up to us and other companies to take that opportunity. My hope is this leads to a world in the next handful of years where the majority of meat doesn’t require killing a single animal or tearing down a single tree.”

It's interesting for sure!
Whatever happened to that company that was making lab grown dairy milk, anybody know?

Ten of Swords

Tetra Pak funded a major study into it, the results were encouraging anyway

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2020/10/14/Lab-grown-dairy-reaches-mass-scaleability-Tetra-Pak-explores-plausible-futures-of-dairy

Tilikum17

Has anyone seen the dairy free baileys yet?

I’ve tried Dunnes, Joyce’s supermarket & O’Briens - no joy

Would Tesco have it?

auspicious

I got it in a Tesco last year.

Supervalu advertising one
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://shop.supervalu.ie/shopping/wine-beer-spirits-cream-liquers-baileys-almande-dairy-free-70-centilitre-/p-1632340000&ved=2ahUKEwjH4NGa08HtAhWaVBUIHSL1CygQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2OS3Qi8rpUej3_9K-lEuqt

Tilikum17

auspicious wrote: »

I got it in a Tesco last year.

Supervalu advertising one
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://shop.supervalu.ie/shopping/wine-beer-spirits-cream-liquers-baileys-almande-dairy-free-70-centilitre-/p-1632340000&ved=2ahUKEwjH4NGa08HtAhWaVBUIHSL1CygQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2OS3Qi8rpUej3_9K-lEuqt

Sorry yeah, my local super value didn’t have it either

Tar.Aldarion

May be discontinued, not sure. Have asked them.

Tilikum17

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

May be discontinued, not sure. Have asked them.

It’s still on the bailey’ website.

Bigbooty

Take a veg is closing down best vegan burgers in town.

Mr.Saturn

Does anyone know if Carrot's Tail in Rathmines is closed for good or just taking an extended break? I've tried to check their social media but it's not entirely clear.

Bigbooty

Yea, it went before Christmas. Last day was 22nd or something.

Bigbooty

Jammie Dodgers changed their recipe recently and are now Vegan.

Thelonious Monk

Denmark asks its citizens to eat less meat, can you imagine this happening in Ireland? Bit rich really given they're one of the biggest pig meat exporters in the world, raised in horrible conditions no less - still though, somewhat encouraging

https://inews.co.uk/news/danish-government-tells-citizens-eat-climate-friendly-diet-vegetables-pulses-822888

auspicious

Over the four weeks [ March '20 ] following, plant-based meat sales continued to grow at a rate of 61%, almost twice as fast as animal-based meat, during the same period. Moreover, while plant-based meat sales maintain continued growth, animal-based meat sales continue to decline. 
Plant-based cheese retail sales grew at 95% (compared to last year) and growth continued at 54% during the four weeks post panic buying. 
Finally, tofu and tempeh retail sales have spiked as well, with growth at 88% (compared to last year) during peak panic buying and 35% in the four weeks post panic buying.
https://plantbasedfoods.org/plant-based-food-outpaces-total-food-sales-during-covid19/

Covid seems to have reinforced people's perception of the need to act and buy sustainably with a view for environmentalism and ethics.
We are replacing our appetite for flesh with an appetite for change.
These strong numbers prove that the plant-based industry is here to stay and will only continue to grow.

auspicious

Be warned, if you turn your back she'll kill you and eat you and your family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y_XPLMxGH0

Thelonious Monk

https://www.businesspost.ie/climate-environment/survey-finds-59-are-eating-less-meat-to-ease-climate-crisis-5a90cd71

More than half of Irish people have said they are reducing their meat intake to help fight climate change, according to a new survey by the European Investment Bank (EIB).

The EIB Climate Survey attracted over 30,000 respondents from across the EU, 1,000 of whom were from Ireland.

Tar.Aldarion

Saw a vegan restaurant got a michelin star yesterday ��

auspicious

I think this image is really cool. It immediately reminds me of aussie Andy Merrick's inauguration speech to Victoria parliament titled 'A dog is a pig is a bear is a boy'.

Worztron

auspicious wrote: »

I think this image is really cool. It immediately reminds me of aussie Andy Merrick's inauguration speech to Victoria parliament titled 'A dog is a pig is a bear is a boy'.

It reminds me of the intro to 'The Incredible Hulk (1978–1982)' TV show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9MysTXM_P4

Thelonious Monk

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/03/plant-based-diets-crucial-to-saving-global-wildlife-says-report

Another UN backed report.

More than 80% of global farmland is used to raise animals, which provide only 18% of calories eaten. Reversing the rising trend of meat consumption removes the pressure to clear new land and further damage wildlife. It also frees up existing land for the second solution, restoring native ecosystems to increase biodiversity.

Realistically we need government policy on moving towards a more plant based diet, I cant see it happening any time soon, definitely not in Ireland, but it would solve so many issues going forward.

auspicious

NSFW video, depicts animals in distress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R0IQ8xuvl8

Plenty of scholarly studies confirm longterm employees can suffer psychological distress such as PTSD for example, resulting in increased domestic and societal violence, alcohol and drug abuse, also carpal tunnel syndrome and more from exposure to the daily routine in slaughterhouses.

Thelonious Monk

I guess some people need the money so bad they have to do it. I wonder what would happen to the industry in Ireland if they couldn't get foreign workers for some reason?

White Clover

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/03/plant-based-diets-crucial-to-saving-global-wildlife-says-report

Another UN backed report.

More than 80% of global farmland is used to raise animals, which provide only 18% of calories eaten. Reversing the rising trend of meat consumption removes the pressure to clear new land and further damage wildlife. It also frees up existing land for the second solution, restoring native ecosystems to increase biodiversity.

Realistically we need government policy on moving towards a more plant based diet, I cant see it happening any time soon, definitely not in Ireland, but it would solve so many issues going forward.

Its not going to happen.
Sales of beef are through the roof with the last 3 weeks. So much that even the factories themselves underestimated the demand and didn't have the cattle from their own feedlots to fill the gap.
They had their agents trawling the countryside looking for cattle and were paying up to €80 per head more for finished cattle in marts than they were quoting themselves.
This week they are trying to drop the price in an attempt to flush out any remaining fit cattle to try keep up with demand.

Bigbooty

White Clover wrote: »

Its not going to happen.
Sales of beef are through the roof with the last 3 weeks. So much that even the factories themselves underestimated the demand and didn't have the cattle from their own feedlots to fill the gap.
They had their agents trawling the countryside looking for cattle and were paying up to €80 per head more for finished cattle in marts than they were quoting themselves.
This week they are trying to drop the price in an attempt to flush out any remaining fit cattle to try keep up with demand.

Why on earth do you think any of us in this forum would want to hear about that?

White Clover

Bigbooty wrote: »

Why on earth do you think any of us in this forum would want to hear about that?

To bring some reality to the discussion here.
Thelonious Monk said that government policy is required to force people towards a plant based diet.
I have given you an example why it wont happen, mainly that beef sales are growing at a steady rate indicating that people like to eat beef.

henryporter

Definitely off topic - not sure that it’s of any interest to us here though.

White Clover wrote: »

To bring some reality to the discussion here.
Thelonious Monk said that government policy is required to force people towards a plant based diet.
I have given you an example why it wont happen, mainly that beef sales are growing at a steady rate indicating that people like to eat beef.

Ten of Swords

Mod

A reminder to all posters that videos depicting animals in distress MUST be labelled NSFW

This requirement is in the forum charter and there are no exceptions to this

auspicious

An advert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdtyJ2aizI

greysides

That video is 'somewhat' disingenuous, lambs that young are not slaughtered, but they do look cuter and better suited to making the desired point.